Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

[Noraa]

no I'm not revealing it.

link to VC on this page

[lilith2013]

V OTECOUNT 3.038
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES		S TRENGTH	S PEED	K NOWLEDGE	P LAYER N AME
Gamma Emerald	None	EL-6	2	1	6	Gamma Emerald
SirCakez	None	EL-6	2	3	3	SirCakez
CreativeMod1	None	EL-6	3	4	3	CreativeMod1
Albert B. Rampage	I Keep Siteflaking	EL-5	3	3	3	Albert B. Rampage
LavarManos	None	EL-6	3	3	4	LavarManos
DkKoba	None	EL-6	3	3	3	DkKoba
I Keep Siteflaking	DkKoba	EL-5	3	3	3	I Keep Siteflaking
PenguinPower	None	EL-6	3	3	3	PenguinPower
Fun and Games	Albert B. Rampage, CreativeMod1, Noraa, JohnnyFarrar	EL-2	3	3	3	Fun and Games
Noraa	Fun and Games	EL-5	3	4	3	Noraa
JohnnyFarrar	None	EL-6	3	3	6	JohnnyFarrar
Not Voting	Gamma Emerald, SirCakez, LavarManos, PenguinPower
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate. Deadline: (expired on 2020-10-27 16:13:10)
Notes: JohnnyFarrar is V/LA until Oct 21 pagetops: Lilith 56 | penguin 18 | ABR 11 | dk 6 | iks 6 | noraa 5 | gamma 4 | johnnyf 3 | cm1 2 | fun & games 2 | nosferatu 2 | cakez 2 | gb 1 | bingle 1 | lavar 1

[JohnnyFarrar]

Began game pickpocket
N0 - explore -> gain event became Teacher
N1 - gym -> blocked
N2 - explore -> gain event double knowledge

[Noraa]

i understand now.

but yes, lets pair up some people that scumread eachother and force them to visit eachother and attack eachother :3

why tf?

[DkKoba]

no I'm not revealing it.

why?

[Gamma Emerald]

like imagine everyone just gladiator fights and we just eliminate anyone who doesnt attack bc its all public in the thread.. and we have 3 psuedo clears available alive. what and epic ending to a game it would be if we were unlucky and lost from that. but still would be pretty cool and fun.

It's only public if a player took damage, not who attacked them, and if they were attacked but didn't take damage idk if that would show up to the target

[DkKoba]

i understand now.

but yes, lets pair up some people that scumread eachother and force them to visit eachother and attack eachother :3

why tf?

so that they a) cant do other actions b) eliminate people faster that are unclear?

its logical and actually not a bad plan. maybe not have everyone do it at once but it leashes people to not let them do actions other than potentially a factional doc action.

unless you wanna explain why this a bad idea?

[DkKoba]

like imagine everyone just gladiator fights and we just eliminate anyone who doesnt attack bc its all public in the thread.. and we have 3 psuedo clears available alive. what and epic ending to a game it would be if we were unlucky and lost from that. but still would be pretty cool and fun.

It's only public if a player took damage, not who attacked them, and if they were attacked but didn't take damage idk if that would show up to the target

@mod well is it public if a player is attacked at all?

also if they dont take damage then the attacked player would still know, no?

we will still know who strayed and who didn't. worst case scenario its a cc

[DkKoba]

actually worst case scenario we get a double town elim LOL but ya. i think i saw bingle suggest something like that earlier?? it would definitely be a good leashing tool. unfortunately 4 speed people cant be fully leashed but we'll know one of their actions guaranteed.

[Gamma Emerald]

actually fuck it can we please do that it would be hilarious if everyone mutually died and we just were left with 3 town and we won after 1 night

This would be quite unlikely

if its 3 scum and nora isnt scum i think johnny is a good contender for that slot. i still maintain albert/lavar are scum too.

if FnG flips scum then IKS scum equity is a little higher there. lavar is scum either way though.

Your scumpool is kinda a bit large I think. You have Lavar as a solid scumread, ABR as well, a chain read of Noraa or JF scum, and you think F&G and IKS might be partners
What's your execution order for likely F&G/IKS buddies?

[DkKoba]

FnG/IKS/ Lavar or Albert

[Gamma Emerald]

It wasn't made public that a doctor attacked me either time
I don't think attacks attributed to players are public either

[DkKoba]

i still dont have a read on PP tho

[JohnnyFarrar]

Thinking about this

[DkKoba]

no, read the mech post, theres a difference between the factional one. the factional one is different. you will know in your PT who attacked you.

[Noraa]

no I'm not revealing it.

why?

none of your beeswax

i understand now.

but yes, lets pair up some people that scumread eachother and force them to visit eachother and attack eachother :3

why tf?

so that they a) cant do other actions b) eliminate people faster that are unclear?

its logical and actually not a bad plan. maybe not have everyone do it at once but it leashes people to not let them do actions other than potentially a factional doc action.

unless you wanna explain why this a bad idea?

this does not sound like a good idea....
it just sounds random af and our success would be 100000% based on luck

[Noraa]

I've never been attacked or experimented on so idk how any of that works :/

[Gamma Emerald]

From one of the opening posts

Player stats are always public.
The discovery and possession of Items is private.
The status of available permanent Rooms/LABS will be publicly announced at the beginning of the Day phase. The availability of permanent Rooms to interact with is publicly announced again at the end of the Day phase.
Permanent Rooms are by default revealed when discovered, though it is possible for a discovered permanent Room to not be revealed. Players may choose to interact with a non-public Room by specifying its name; if such a Room exists, they will interact with it, otherwise the action will be lost.
The usage of Items and abilities, attacks/steals, and actions taken, as well as individual results of interactions with Rooms, is private.
Stat changes will be publicly shown via player stats being public, but not the name of the Item or Room that was used or who caused the change in stats.

Looks like the identity of attackers is never public outside specific abilities

[DkKoba]

"The identity of the attacker will be privately sent to the defender after all Night actions resolve."

this is important. because if we setup people to do specific night actions, we will know who did what.

[JohnnyFarrar]

So you want to pair everyone up to attack each other. Limits scum action, prevents the use of attack items to hurt town. If scum can win tonight they'll do it, but if they can't, we'll know who did what and who tried what tomorrow.

This is assuming they wouldn't just attack plainly like you asked and do nothing else?

[Noraa]

If we decrease each other's skills, we are literally doing scums job for them bc we all get weakened by a shit ton and we did it ourselves

[DkKoba]

well deviating from an action list would be considered a hard scumclaim. attacks are the only action that another player can reasonably confirm that also consumes an action.

they can still do factional attack.

and they can do factional operate action.

[DkKoba]

If we decrease each other's skills, we are literally doing scums job for them bc we all get weakened by a shit ton and we did it ourselves

or maybe u just know im gonna pair u up with fng <3

[Gamma Emerald]

If scum are attacking people in the PoE that means they're not attacking conftown

[DkKoba]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^