Open 796: Haunted Village Game Over

[Battle Mage]

im glad im dying tonight lol

[PlusJOYED]

You guys realize scum has a roleblocker and rolecop right?
we don't want to out PRs if we can help it since for scum it narrows rolecop target and they can roleblock pr claims to get them killed

[MURDERCAT]

Noraa is already hinting at PR it's too late for that

[MURDERCAT]

That said, I think there is a decent chance that town Noraa is actually vanilla here and is hinting anyway, so that's why I want her to just commit one way or the other

[Battle Mage]

bm im curious of what noraa is too but like you haven't helped town at all this game
peddit What the fuck bm are you fucking with me right now
I'm doing the opposite. Your rolefishing

i hinted about what i thought noraa's role was. You then wrote a long diatribe trying to fish for info about me and her. And then later, you returned to this, and fished for info from me again. That is rolefishing.

Me telling Noraa to claim because she's at -1. Eh, I'm not exactly being coy about wanting her to claim her role am i?

There is a difference between subtly rolefishing and outright asking for a claim.

As for you saying I haven't helped town at all this game - seriously, I've made sensible observations and had beneficial discussions for sorting people, I've made it very clear I'm obvtown so won't get mis-elimmed, I think I've had good reads, and at the very least, I've had clear reads which were well articulated and evidenced when appropriate. I've actually been the model townie.

I think when you say I haven't helped town, I think you've just misunderstood what the town wincon is.

[Battle Mage]

You guys realize scum has a roleblocker and rolecop right?
we don't want to out PRs if we can help it since for scum it narrows rolecop target and they can roleblock pr claims to get them killed

i don't believe you believe this, given your previous attempts to try and out PRs, so I'm dropping you to null-read.

[Tayl0r Swift]

That said, I think there is a decent chance that town Noraa is actually vanilla here and is hinting anyway, so that's why I want her to just commit one way or the other

no are you kidding thats exactly why she shouldnt commit either way

[MURDERCAT]

I think Plus is just new BM and I think new players overrate PRs

[Battle Mage]

That said, I think there is a decent chance that town Noraa is actually vanilla here and is hinting anyway, so that's why I want her to just commit one way or the other

i agree that would be beneficial, although it won't happen. I've basically given up hope for this game. It feels like a clean-sweep for scum already with how easily wagons are being created and destroyed. too easy for scum to control the narrative, unless they are woefully inept.

[PlusJOYED]

l do seriously suspect Xof or Noraa is red.
if nothing else Noraa has been helpful for scumhunting where X has not
peddit: there are different kinds of PRs, and we know scum has different tools to deal with each.

[Battle Mage]

I think Plus is just new BM and I think new players overrate PRs

yeah it could be that he just misunderstood what rolefishing was, but still.

[PlusJOYED]

That said, I think there is a decent chance that town Noraa is actually vanilla here and is hinting anyway, so that's why I want her to just commit one way or the other

no are you kidding thats exactly why she shouldnt commit either way

yeah
what the hell Murder/BM

[PlusJOYED]

BM me asking you for what you think someones role is is not rolefishing
you going so hard to get Noraa to claim is rolefishing

[MURDERCAT]

Plus I agree with infinity, if we are going to make xof happen we need something to happen with Noraa first. Honestly if Noraa is PR, claims, and dies for it tonight and we lim xof scum today instead that sounds like a great outcome for today.

pedit: BM am I crazy? Like how does a claim not happen at some point on D1 literally no matter what?

[Battle Mage]

l do seriously suspect Xof or Noraa is red.
if nothing else Noraa has been helpful for scumhunting where X has not
peddit: there are different kinds of PRs, and we know scum has different tools to deal with each.

no offence, but you also said I wasn't helpful for scumhunting, so I'm not sure I trust your judgement on that. I agree noraa has been helpful for scumhunting, but unfortunately I think that time has passed. Now it will just be "tunnel BM tunnel BM" endlessly. Which incidentally, is NAI for Noraa, but it's invariably anti-town and pointless. This, incidentally, is why I held back on revealing my earlier suspicions of her slot.

Taylor, if you're curious, the difference between my tunnel on you and noraa's tunnel on me, is that noraa will post LOTS of content about it. At least I keep it simple and stick to the basic message without inflating the thread.

[Infinity 324]

Nora needs to claim today.

[Battle Mage]

BM me asking you for what you think someones role is is not rolefishing
you going so hard to get Noraa to claim is rolefishing

as i recall, you admitted you were rolefishing at the time. this is a pointless discussion - you're wrong, it doesn't necessarily make you scum, it doesn't matter, I don't care.

[Battle Mage]

That said, I think there is a decent chance that town Noraa is actually vanilla here and is hinting anyway, so that's why I want her to just commit one way or the other

no are you kidding thats exactly why she shouldnt commit either way

yeah
what the hell Murder/BM

you're sheeping scum dude

[Battle Mage]

Plus I agree with infinity, if we are going to make xof happen we need something to happen with Noraa first. Honestly if Noraa is PR, claims, and dies for it tonight and we lim xof scum today instead that sounds like a great outcome for today.

pedit: BM am I crazy? Like how does a claim not happen at some point on D1 literally no matter what?

no you're not crazy. you're right.

[PlusJOYED]

I've elected to ignore everything BM says from here on out as he's claimed the VI slot. Hopefully scum kills them

[PlusJOYED]

Taylor has gone up in my townreads too.

[MURDERCAT]

Plus, what happens in your mind today if we all move to xof? At some point we need a claim there right? It really feels like Noraa was about to fakeclaim and you let up all the pressure

[Battle Mage]

I've elected to ignore everything BM says

that's bad strategy if you're town. rule number 1 of forum mafia - read what people post. also a good idea generally if you're new and gaining experience.

[Battle Mage]

Taylor has gone up in my townreads too.

ah can you explain why?

[PlusJOYED]

we kill xof. If X flips red Noraa is probably clear, if X flips green we kill Noraa