Open 796: Haunted Village Game Over

[PlusJOYED]

hmmmm if zof was scum, they could just claim an important pr and either get cc'ed in which case that important pr dies that night or survive for a long time if no cc.

the scum know what prs there are so they could easily claim a pr no one has

[Exorcists]

i already think xofelf has decent scum equity, and they just claimed vt. either they're scum trying to wifom us or they're a scummy vt. and considering how power-heavy the scumteam is, hiding our PRs is important. no need to be getting another claim.

-tisi

There are cases I would agree, but I completely disagree here because you are very likely scum and using this as a reason to kill them/save yourself.

—Alice

[Exorcists]

Saying we should kill them because they claimed/claimed VT is frankly terrible.

—Alice

[Exorcists]

Look, if yeeting me gives you more information on solving all these other pushes on me and through out, by all means go for it. We won't be losing anything important in the process. I'm not a PR, nor am I scum, so if that makes it easier to actually vote out the people who ARE, go for it. I'm gonna flip green, but not a green that it's gamelosing when I do.

I don't really like how little Isis is contributing here. I know she's incredibly precise in all that she says ever, but I feel like she normally says more.

This reads genuine to me.

—Alice

[PlusJOYED]

i do think noraa would reveal a lot at least. If Noraa red im pretty sure the team is Noraa/Ego/Taylor in an alternate universe.
I don"t think we're in that world.

[Infinity 324]

i do think noraa would reveal a lot at least. If Noraa red im pretty sure the team is Noraa/Ego/Taylor in an alternate universe.
I don"t think we're in that world.

Honestly it could be. But I also just think that it can be hard to justify blatantly putting your vote on a counterwagon, and it’s something I’ve had trouble with as scum. Another possibility is that scum were on Taylor/tisi as a counterwagon but couldn’t push it effectively since they weren’t active enough. I feel like there is too much to speculate on here without a flip.

[Tayl0r Swift]

what about an egotisi lim? the last few pages have made me really think that whichever of noraa and xof is scum, egotisi for sure is.

[Infinity 324]

First, I want a claim.

[Gamma Emerald]

Setup

@Gamma and anyone else who may have missed it

I don’t like having to go to the wiki when most Open forum games have the setup in the opening posts

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m not a fan of how MCat approached the egotisi wagon

In what way?

You seemed very dismissive of it, it was a budding wagon on an uncommonly SRed slot and you seemed to be trying to say it shouldn’t exist. If our current limpool doesn’t bear much scum this is gonna look mighty shady down the line, because it seems you’re attempting to get people to stick to that limpool.

[Gamma Emerald]

untunneling is generally town indicative.

What is your basis for saying this? I think it’s important to think about timing.

[Battle Mage]

This is intent, please claim noraa

well played.

Look, if yeeting me gives you more information on solving all these other pushes on me and through out, by all means go for it. We won't be losing anything important in the process. I'm not a PR, nor am I scum, so if that makes it easier to actually vote out the people who ARE, go for it. I'm gonna flip green, but not a green that it's gamelosing when I do.

I don't really like how little Isis is contributing here. I know she's incredibly precise in all that she says ever, but I feel like she normally says more.

Initial reaction - I like the claim, but not a lot. Like the vt claim, and decisively worded which feels genuine, but less keen on the martyr-type vibes. Overall it doesn't make me any more interested in a xoxelf flip, so preference still Noraa.

I can respect the egotisi argument for not wanting to out a town PR, but i'm worried about town being railroaded here and am willing to risk outting a PR in order to maximise chances of getting a scumflip.

[Battle Mage]

Give me a while to catch up. If we’re missing the people needed for Noraa, consider my vote there.

—Alice

i think this counts as intent btw

[Gamma Emerald]

I never ever die day 1 as scum bc I'm always highly townread in my scum games.... In all my finished, I died day 3 or didn't die at all.
Honestly speaking, if I'm highly SRed day 1, I'm definitely town. If I'm not, it depends.
Since y'all r taking so much meta stuff into account, I figured this was necessary

You were pretty highly SRed when you first started playing from replacing in MafiaSunny. This tell is voided.

[Battle Mage]

Nora already softed pr. I’m

really

suspicious of everyone being fine with the nora elim and getting off at the last minute for no discernible reason, without even a claim.

Agree

i didnt think id ever be vibing with you two...

[MURDERCAT]

well played.

I tried

[Cobra Kai]

Let’s please stop getting sidetracked and have Nora claim.

[Infinity 324]

I never ever die day 1 as scum bc I'm always highly townread in my scum games.... In all my finished, I died day 3 or didn't die at all.
Honestly speaking, if I'm highly SRed day 1, I'm definitely town. If I'm not, it depends.
Since y'all r taking so much meta stuff into account, I figured this was necessary

You were pretty highly SRed when you first started playing from replacing in MafiaSunny. This tell is voided.

I’m pretty sure she also said that she’s never been under a ton of pressure as town lol

[Gamma Emerald]

I only have two leans rn and they are weak asf

Might be conf biased, but this sort of fence sitting seems AI for scum Noraa

Tbf I think she had trouble finding reads in another town game (arthropods?)

now flipping around and saying this. Infinity is someone I request town look into tomorrow.

That’s actually a hood sign for Infinity, though I actually don’t know his scumgame, curiously enough

[xofelf]

Eh, sorry. I roll VT an obnoxious amount of the time, and I don't typically have fun playing it, it is a role I hate. I need information I can give or have to actually feel like I'm accomplishing anything, otherwise I feel like I'm just biding time til I die. I'm actually trying to do something more here, but I don't think I am managing that so much.

But also yes, Noraa needs to claim at this point.

[Battle Mage]

what about an egotisi lim? the last few pages have made me really think that whichever of noraa and xof is scum, egotisi for sure is.

For those keeping score:

Taylor happily on the Noraa-wagon at E-1.
As soon as the Xofelf counter-wagon starts, she promotes it whilst remaining on Noraa.
Following the Xofelf claim, she tries to finish off Xofelf.
When opposition is presented, she suggests an Egotisi-wagon instead.

Everyone cool with that, yeah?

[MURDERCAT]

VT is the best role.

I kind of wanted to be in control of the hammer but I trust Alice I guess

Noraa is still E-2 right? If so I'll vote

[xofelf]

I had a cult spotter in a previous game which was just this side of not VT, and that was actually fun cuz I at least had information to do something with. I kinda.. need direction and concrete something to work with or I don't exactly know where to go or where to really start, and too many options and variables makes for not fun for xoffies. BUT I'm trying here.

BM does kind of have a point, but idk, both he and Taylor feel a little bulldog grabbing a hold on things.

[Battle Mage]

Eh, sorry. I roll VT an obnoxious amount of the time, and I don't typically have fun playing it, it is a role I hate. I need information I can give or have to actually feel like I'm accomplishing anything, otherwise I feel like I'm just biding time til I die. I'm actually trying to do something more here, but I don't think I am managing that so much.

But also yes, Noraa needs to claim at this point.

do you have any completed games you can link to?

may sound like a silly question, but i looked in your recent topics and it's all non-mafia stuff.

[Cobra Kai]

Can someone paint me a picture their xof scumread? I haven’t minded her since early game at all.