The Trials - ENDGAME

[DrippingGoofball]

You have been working overtime to keep the attention OFF Nos, and I believe he's your buddy. Having said that, I would support you 100% if you fancy throwing him under the bus, we really need a red flip. But don't bank on getting town cred for it tomorrow.

[Tayl0r Swift]

titus can you towncase nos?

[Titus]

titus can you towncase nos?

Sure.

Let's suppose for a moment Nos is a lurker (not true but I'll get to that in a moment) particularly with his sudden absence here. Why does he get attention more than Mara. It wouldn't surprise me if some people never mentioned Mara. Meanwhile, the case against Nos seems nothing more than repetitive noise. Why Nos? Why has that been spammed when other slots are even more lurky?

Nos hasn't been lurky. He's the only one engaging with my content at all. He followed my reaction test on shelly to try and save Pete day 1. We were both wrong, but that's town impact. He demanded content from Marashu with his vote on them.

Nos stood up and defended himself from Sausade day 1 pretty well.

Ask yourself this Taylor. You're a universal townread alive in lylo. Why? Because you'll vote Nos and excuse Mara's lack of content.

[Titus]

Let's count those willing to vote Nos

DGB
Taylor
Glitch
Mara
Gypyx

There's scum in that.

[Titus]

Can you scumcase Nos? His relationships with others would be most persuasive. I read people by how they interact with others as you can probably tell from my towncase.

[DrippingGoofball]

Let's count those willing to vote Nos

DGB
Taylor
Glitch
Mara
Gypyx

There's scum in that.

There are 4 townies left, of course there's one scum in that lot, at least.

If you're town... IF... your comment that

Nos hasn't been lurky. He's the only one engaging with my content at all. He followed my reaction test on shelly to try and save Pete day 1

comes from an egocentric perspective, and you may be blinded by your own personal "feelgoods" about the slot. Think of it from another players' perspective, no one will say,

oh wow, Nos is engaging with Titus' content, he must be town!

. Another player might more likely think (1) the two of you are in cahoots or (2) YOUR CONTENT WAS CONVENIENT FOR HIM and the scum team.

[DrippingGoofball]

got my eye on u fidget

VOTE: pete

I already explained those two, but i think they have a pretty good partner equity

hmm very interesting tell me more

i doubt its plusjoyed at this point either.

huh

VOTE: taylor swift

i didnt mean to quote u @ fidget i was talking to titus

not all lurkers are created equal

i...agree!

content could do more but i am always obvtown

vrnn vrnn vrnn

VOTE: ts1989

He's the only one prod dodging.

prod dodge!

who tf is wiyvern

[DrippingGoofball]

That's what I meant when I said his iso was a bunch of onomatopeias.

And naked votes. He's a lurking, grunting machine that tosses votes out of nowhere.

[DrippingGoofball]

Psychologically, he's scumtrolling all of us, and lurking because he got bored with it while the rest of us are intellectually stimulated with the task of solving the game.

[Titus]

Psychologically, he's scumtrolling all of us, and lurking because he got bored with it while the rest of us are intellectually stimulated with the task of solving the game.

So what's different between him and Mara? Nos's nakedness pushes forward the game. Mara's nakedness is always on town and he doesn't get pressured for it.

And maybe my egocentric thoughts are coloring this but if Nos is bussing he deserves to win. Whoever eliminates scum!Mara deserves to win this game. If town won't, we deserve to lose. Lurking with nothing going forward is not a way scum should be permitted to win.

If Nos wins because he was willing to bus and town wasn't willing to vote scum, I'm ok with that.

[Titus]

To be honest, I'm a bit bored and frustrated myself. One scum is obvious and the rest of you stonewall it to chase after Nos. I'm bored because one scum was easy and frustrated because the rest of you won't obvtown aside from Taylor.

[Titus]

Put it another way, let's say we vote Nos and he flips scum.

Mara still won't put forth content. You won't lynch him. We lose eventually either way, so why prolong it?

[Titus]

Oh and I'm going downstairs to grab a beer and start the quest towards Drunk!Titus. She hasn't come out in awhile. So have fun with me please.

[Titus]

It's well known you find prod dodging and lurking as scum tells, yet you selectively apply it. I'd be more willing to believe you thought Nos was scum if you put that Nos and Mara were teamed and you'd be ok eliminating either one. Yet, you always deflect the question of Mara to Nos.

Are you ok with eliminating Mara? Yes or No.

[DrippingGoofball]

Oh and I'm going downstairs to grab a beer and start the quest towards Drunk!Titus. She hasn't come out in awhile. So have fun with me please.

oh nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[DrippingGoofball]

Marashu smells of townie in over his head, it's not comparable to Nos at all.

Put them side by side.

[Titus]

Marashu smells of townie in over his head, it's not comparable to Nos at all.

Put them side by side.

Explain this. How is a prod dodging Mara in over his head while an active, influential Nos not.

More than a sentence. Provide proof.

[Titus]

I'm already intoxicated legally and I'm going to grab another. That means I'm really impressionable, so make a case so I can believe you and Mara aren't partners because it sure fucking looks like it.

I don't see any universe where town!DGB defends a lurker.

[Titus]

I hope Taylor comes by because I'm more sure on my townread on her.

[DrippingGoofball]

Nos is not active nor influential, he's just a noise cricket.

[Titus]

Are you willing to vote Mara? Yes or No.

You still haven't explained why Mara is an overwhelmed townie.

[Titus]

You put them side by side. I have and I am wondering why Mara gets protected.

[DrippingGoofball]

All of these are evidence of game solving.

cause it seemed fun and I was null on shelly, and mildy wanted to mess with shelly
but then i realized it"s kind of throwing to do so

yikes, this does not mesh at all with the town mindset of hammering to get scumread

I agree. And right now the biggest defense I've seen is that plus is "too scummy to be scum".

VOTE: PlusJOYED

Nosferatu I'm particularly wary of since he just survived the last gladiate, I sort of hope there was 1 scum inside the gladiate, and I lean him over DGB.

Shelly sent to Trial 1, Battle Mage vanishes, First Gladiate
We vote within the First Gladiate, and Plusjoy is set to Trial 2, viwyrn vanishes
I guess now we're voting to see who gets sent to Trial 3, and there will be a Second Gladiate?
Who chooses which players go into the Gladiate? Was there any scum in the First Gladiate?

It seems to me that there would be scum in the First Gladiate, and the we would be smart to look at Nosferatu and DGB.

Ok, I have a bit of a hot take here. I'm starting to wonder if shelly PASSED the first trial, and the REWARD was being able to set up the gladiate. And now that there were no obvious shenanigans, I'm thinking that PlusJOY FAILED the second trial. Passing a trial helps town, but failing only has a chance of hurting town. (Alternately, PlusJOY PASSED the second trial, and managed to redirect the NK to viywern). The one thing that doesn't make sense in this scenario is if the gladiate is a reward, why those three?

Actually, Nos continually insisting that all 3 of them were town is

interesting

. Like, if either Plus or DGB flipped town (as we know Plus did), then he still distanced himself, whereas if he's scum, that would only be revealed by a flip so he wouldn't be caught in the lie. So it's almost like hedging bets. I still feel like the Eddie slot is scum. But I'm starting to doubt my read on Nos.

I'm still suspicious of the Glitch/Eddie slot, though I actually agree with his read on you. Noraa's recent posts have given me pause, so I think I want to ISO that slot soon. I don't really remember anything townie from Pete or Vecna.
Tayl0r and Fidget feel like town to me, and you're probably town as well. I have a hard time reading DGB. I keep going back and forth on Nos.

Could someone explain to me the case on gypyx? It seems like a lot of people are shading this slot and I don't know why.

Nos was the one who originally said that it was an all-town gladiate. Now Titus is starting to say the same thing. I'm not sure how the mechanic works but I'm feeling like scum is trying to hide behind it. Gypyx was the one who proposed that the number of town/scum was dependent on the result of the trial in 636 and people agreed on it, but if it's wrong and the gladiate itself was the reward, and nothing would have happened on a fail (which is what I'm currently thinking), then it becomes very appealing to scum to use that. I don't see how Nos saying that it's an all-town gladiate benefits town but it could be beneficial to scum.

Titus might be saying it was all-town now to keep us from looking too deeply at D2, or too closely at Nos. Or it could be her digging in her heels - I think it would make more sense for scum!Titus to be agreeing with Nos' stance on D2 rather than picking it up on D4.

[Titus]

My first drunk instinct is to say where the fuck is the follow up and scum bin him and you.

I will actually ignore that now and give faith a fair chance.

Why didn't you defend Marashu and engage me when I have called him lurker scum for days? Why didn't you defend him and set my head straight before lylo? Literally my whole scumhunting world focuses on Mara scum. It would have been nice to have someone talk to me before lylo.

[Glitch]

active, influential Nos

Where are the words to express how inaccurate this statement is?