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[DkKoba]

VOTE: shelly

[DkKoba]

i always get the best pagetops i swear

[DkKoba]

taylor - townish
jackson - townish
shelly - townish
DGB - scummish
gerain - scummish
baltar - scummish
mark - townish

Let's say infinity is scum. Probably one bus on this list (geraintm). Other partner could be Marky Mark or I could possibly see andres.

I do think andres' town play is pretty hard to fake (based on the recent game I playe with him), so I expect that will become clearer over time.

are you saying you played a game against andre where he was scum?

[VP Baltar]

are you saying you played a game against andre where he was scum?

Nah. I just feel relatively confident I'll be able to figure out whether he is being genuine over time.

It's not so much meta as it is I found his town play to have a certain verve that would be quite challenging to replicate as scum. Possible? Maybe. But I do think it'd be clear if it was inauthentic.

[DkKoba]

anyone else get that feel like that u are more suspicious of players who u first encounter ever in a game as scum and trust players who u encountered as town before?
like my gut automatically makes me like assign vp as scum just because they were scum b4 and andres as town and thats the baseline i start at. ive had this in other games too and its weird.

(i dont actually scumread vp but my subconscious just is saying that bc of prior game experience)

[shellyc]

VOTE: andresvmb

making sure you'll lose to me thrice

Are you admitting to being Scum now Shelly?

no but you're scum and im town

[DkKoba]

i just realized sesq is in this game and has yet to post. im gonna slow down on the spam so i dont make them ahve to read more than what we've already spewed into the thread... reformed spammer btw.

[shellyc]

as a former chat mafia player i find them extremely useful for finding a "baseline" read level to start out with. id still like to see where your general vibes are so i can get a sense where your head is at.

Pretty sure this is mostly just personality/playstyle but

taylor - townish
jackson - townish
shelly - townish
DGB - scummish
gerain - scummish
baltar - scummish
mark - townish

ok hmmmmmm

hot take infinity is scummy and koba is townie
koba is *proactively* solving and poking around, infinity is *reactionary* readslisting

[DkKoba]

what pings u about andres shelly?i dont think andres' playstyle inherently allows him to really spew alignment until later in the day phase so im wondering what exactly u are reading into about him thats scum

[shellyc]

Shellyc is town.

scumdar beep: TMI'd scum

(serious) I'll have to hear the why to sort you though.

You seem way too chipper and excited about this game to have rolled scum!

nah

in fairness this tell doesn't work
i love playing scum neutral about playing town but plist looks good here

[shellyc]

what pings u about andres shelly?i dont think andres' playstyle inherently allows him to really spew alignment until later in the day phase so im wondering what exactly u are reading into about him thats scum

idk its hard to explain but tone is slightly different from my experiences + reads are kinda underdeveloped and seem thrown out

not the hugest ping tho

[Infinity 324]

as a former chat mafia player i find them extremely useful for finding a "baseline" read level to start out with. id still like to see where your general vibes are so i can get a sense where your head is at.

Pretty sure this is mostly just personality/playstyle but

taylor - townish
jackson - townish
shelly - townish
DGB - scummish
gerain - scummish
baltar - scummish
mark - townish

ok hmmmmmm

hot take infinity is scummy and koba is townie
koba is *proactively* solving and poking around, infinity is *reactionary* readslisting

What makes you think this is AI as opposed to playstyle here?

[DkKoba]

shelly sounds v complacent here and the way they pivoted to hedginess after being questioned really pings me hard as scummy.

like they dont wanna step on toes early and are afraid to make solid reads because its early.

its something i myself notice in my own scumgames where I'm like "yeah thats true but like this can also be true" and like correcting someone about like a positive read on them to be like "yeah but it could be scummy". really dont like.

[DkKoba]

i think shelly is likely scum.

[DkKoba]

as a former chat mafia player i find them extremely useful for finding a "baseline" read level to start out with. id still like to see where your general vibes are so i can get a sense where your head is at.

Pretty sure this is mostly just personality/playstyle but

taylor - townish
jackson - townish
shelly - townish
DGB - scummish
gerain - scummish
baltar - scummish
mark - townish

ok hmmmmmm

hot take infinity is scummy and koba is townie
koba is *proactively* solving and poking around, infinity is *reactionary* readslisting

lol pocket attempt denied

[shellyc]

shelly sounds v complacent here and the way they pivoted to hedginess after being questioned really pings me hard as scummy.

like they dont wanna step on toes early and are afraid to make solid reads because its early.

its something i myself notice in my own scumgames where I'm like "yeah thats true but like this can also be true" and like correcting someone about like a positive read on them to be like "yeah but it could be scummy". really dont like.

ok can you go meta me or something and come back

i don't want to "step on toes early" because i don't have TMI

i find what you say to basically be my town traits

[shellyc]

shelly sounds v complacent here and the way they pivoted to hedginess after being questioned really pings me hard as scummy.

like in fairness

i rather dislike playing town because its so boring

oh and also kobas projecting which is fallacious

[Infinity 324]

VOTE: shelly those are nervous posts.

[shellyc]

as a former chat mafia player i find them extremely useful for finding a "baseline" read level to start out with. id still like to see where your general vibes are so i can get a sense where your head is at.

Pretty sure this is mostly just personality/playstyle but

taylor - townish
jackson - townish
shelly - townish
DGB - scummish
gerain - scummish
baltar - scummish
mark - townish

ok hmmmmmm

hot take infinity is scummy and koba is townie
koba is *proactively* solving and poking around, infinity is *reactionary* readslisting

lol pocket attempt denied

I've got freedom to be liberal with my townreads, you can't deny that

re: playstyle vs. personality town early game is gonna be proactive to move the game out of RVS
which is another reason I TR koba

[DkKoba]

[shellyc]

VOTE: shelly those are nervous posts.

again go meta me and come back

why do you think nervousness is a scumtell

[shellyc]

not to sound arrogant i have 5 scum victories on this site and am confident and assertive at playing scum and the easiest way to catch scum!me is through confidence levels/TMI

nervousness is 10000000% a towntell for the account "shellyc"

[shellyc]

VOTE: zdenek the joke post when people had serious votes already isn’t great

like again this is weird from infinity its basically making something out of nothing (which could be said as shitpushing)
why is a joke post scummy

[DkKoba]

beep beep damage control mode

[Infinity 324]

More specifically, I think being disproportionately nervous in response to pressure is a scumtell. But I’ll meta you over the weekend or something