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[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Jackson Virgo for that time tse claimed mason with you as scum when you were vt and then you went along with it

But I'm masons with you rn...

VOTE: bugspray

[JacksonVirgo]

First game here in a while. Im interested to see how site meta has changed, what the players are like now, how I hold up as a player, etc

Please do me a favor and outline your typical playstyle with these questions:

Intuitive, or analytical?
Independent, or Collaborative?
Aggressive, or Passive?

I will respond to my own questions once I get some responses to the survey. As this is my first post I would also like to say good luck to you all! Hopefully this will be a good game!

I only remember scum doing these.
I would say a mix of both intuitive and analytical. My main scum-reads are usually from intuition but my town-reads are from analysing stuff if that makes any sense.
I'm more of an independent player.
Depending on what my goal for the game is, generally if I know people I go a bit aggressive but otherwise I am more passive-aggressive.

[JacksonVirgo]

I dont have a "typical playstyle" yet. its more just a huge mess of fluff and random comments thrown in whenever I feel like it

Noraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! HEY!

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm not town

Discuss

I think they're town guys

[JacksonVirgo]

I know Jackson, Sausage and think i've played with Bugspray once.

I hosted a game with Noraa, Mundivore, Radados.

And I've played with bugspray, MiniMegabyte (off-site), shellyc and Norwegian.

I will know if you're a scum boi >:)

[JacksonVirgo]

Good to know NorwegianGuy.

Call me Norwee plz.

Oh do you prefer that? Or do you not mind if I call you NEE

[JacksonVirgo]

beep beep

I'm a sheep

[JacksonVirgo]

who tf starts a game at 3am for people on the other side of the world

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

Noraa's making forced reads makes /my/ scum radar go off tbh

Please do me a favor and outline your typical playstyle with these questions:
Intuitive, or analytical?
Independent, or Collaborative?
Aggressive, or Passive?

Intuitive

- (in my limited town!shelly games) I like making reads off behaviourally, sticking to my gut rather than logic, especially early game

Independent

- ive never been a team player

Aggressive

- I like to push people early and question their motives as either alignment

Lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooo, vote me then instantly say you've got scum pings from noraa. Nice

[JacksonVirgo]

wait actually is that supposed to be TSTBS?
ur intro is either too bold to be scum or smart smart scum.

LAMIST via TSTBS

pedit not reading that
god dammit i have like two posts getting pedited rn mafia sucks
I JUST PEDITED MYSELF FUCKING HELL

Glorious

[JacksonVirgo]

don't like LAMIST either

jackson talk to me

Hello, how was your day

[JacksonVirgo]

Noraa is generally more stiff as scum because she's new, she's more loose here and she's probably Town.

[JacksonVirgo]

I dont have a "typical playstyle" yet. its more just a huge mess of fluff and random comments thrown in whenever I feel like it

Noraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! HEY!

hewwoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!! ps. I was gonna /out this game cuz I got too many games going on rn. but then I was like hmmmm I do wanna play a game with Jackson so I'm here

Also fyi the moment I saw ur first post, I just thought of when I got my first role pm and my reply was "I'm confused"

Oh that's why you wanted to play? I feel special lel

pedit: ??

[JacksonVirgo]

jackson i appreciate the input but i don't trust your reads after that game i mentioned when i opening rvs'd you so please give me more

What game would this be?

[JacksonVirgo]

I hosted a scum!noraa game (it was also scum!shelly). I'll go and quote a few things now brb

[JacksonVirgo]

I might be wrong, hold up. Let me compare their current ISO to their old early D1 iso.

[JacksonVirgo]

Spoiler: This Game

VOTE: Morning Tweet
for having a hand in the elimination of vanilla townie Noraa in her first marathon game

VOTE: Odd Day Jester

clown detected

activating anti-clown measures

Sirius where you at?

Hello fellow scum! I am also scum. What will our scumplan be in this game?

your intro is LAMIST
VOTE: Redados
Mod your off the hook for now <.<
I'll get u in the next game im in with u :>>>>>>

wait actually is that supposed to be TSTBS?
ur intro is either too bold to be scum or smart smart scum.

but I think its smart smart scum >.<

Spoiler: THat game

I thought Echovision voting multiple times was a lil sus bc it seems like he's desperately trying to eliminate shelly. The reply shelly gave was a lil provocative soo idk what to feel there. I feel like it's too hard to be sure on anything rn tho cuz most people haven't said much.

wait so lemme get this right day 1 there mostly likely wi be two dead in one day if both kills happen? If so nuuuu;( not cool not cool

@sirius9121 same here soooo VOTE: Nikahang

Should've saved it for later after all patience is a virtue lmaooo

LOL thats pretty random but I mean I like my laptop too unfortunately it will never be my favorite so long as my phone exists

A little sus I agree.

lol still trying to wrap my head around this game so I doubt anything I'm thinking rn would be of help.

.

I see a massive content difference just on the first few of their posts.

[JacksonVirgo]

.

Unlucky. You'll get it next time.

pog

[JacksonVirgo]

These are my top favs:

(ranked favorite to least)
(I just realized I like more than )
charge me for these emojis jester im quite loaded with my hot ten dollar bill

I forgive you since you didn't include the god-forsaken "giggling" emoji. Anyone who uses that is either not in right mind or just plain scum.

I'll put $10 on your tab though.

[JacksonVirgo]

I think Noraa is LHF which everyone is jumping on

[JacksonVirgo]

DAYVIG: JacksonVirgo

this is lockscum

jackson / noraa game solved

Wait a sec. What if.... Jackson and Noraa are both scum. Because Jackson is trying to prove them to be town here by going into other games and really trying. Hmmm...

I'm more of the bussing type

[JacksonVirgo]

DAYVIG: JacksonVirgo

this is lockscum

jackson / noraa game solved

Wait a sec. What if.... Jackson and Noraa are both scum. Because Jackson is trying to prove them to be town here by going into other games and really trying. Hmmm...

sheep alert

Yeah alright I see why you think Noraa is scummy

[JacksonVirgo]

But I still think Noraa is a LHF town

pedit: it's not self-meta is just letting you know that I tend to not buddy with my partners. There's a fine difference between self-meta and just letting you know that your read is trash and wrong

[JacksonVirgo]

MinisculeGigabyte, what do you think of Noraa's play so far?

Noraa is very active which is a good thing but I don’t think they have as much game advancing content as 72 does they are more just posting I haven’t really seen anything that says Noraa is any alignment tbh but with Jackson trying to defend them using other games is a red flag to me

Why is it a red-flag? I don't want town lynched so I don't want to lynch over reasonings I do not believe in, so I double check with meta

pedit: I know mini irl, and I play some discord mafia games with them. They never believe me no matter what happens until I am confirmed town.

[JacksonVirgo]

Am I supposed to take your word for that? It’s just seems off to me

megabyte don't you have offsite experience with jackson

I don’t think I’ve played a game with them where they were scum tho

You've only played games with me as town. Yet you're still super paranoid

[JacksonVirgo]

Mini's reads are generally really good, but they're easy LHF

[JacksonVirgo]

DAYVIG: JacksonVirgo

this is lockscum

jackson / noraa game solved

Wait a sec. What if.... Jackson and Noraa are both scum. Because Jackson is trying to prove them to be town here by going into other games and really trying. Hmmm...

sheep alert

Yeah alright I see why you think Noraa is scummy

What was wrong with Noraa's post there, Jacko? I didn't like Mini's take there originally either.

The "sheep alert" is just plain scummy but I think that's just LHF material

[JacksonVirgo]

I don't entertain counterfactuals, sorry

I have noraa as lockscum aorn and nothing else

Shelly, not going to lie here, lockscumming early d1 is really stupid

[JacksonVirgo]

phew this game is gonna be rough. two pages in and my scum radar's already gone off multiple times. these entrances are really making me question everything...

Scumreading people for their entrance is a fools errand.

TBH im disappointed you publicly came to this conclusion so soon. I was interested to see what other's reactions to RedGarodos and Jester were.

We could have gotten out of the boring RVS fun time much faster.

Why can't others react to RedCharmander/NotAJester despite Norwee making that post?

The latter line seems a little

LAMIST

too. I have enlarged the buzzword as I have been informed that people are a fan of these.

VOTE: Grendel

I can sheep this
VOTE: Grendel

[JacksonVirgo]

JV sheeping is -3 townpoints

Yeah fuck off

[JacksonVirgo]

id be surprised if anyone has a scumread at this point. i think there is a difference between something being scummy and something being anti town. I voted on jester because I think his play has been very anti town so far

this line is weird. it's very protown to give early scumreads

VOTE: duppin

I don't like this line

That seems very townie tbh

[JacksonVirgo]

Scum also ike to scumread people early on. Town usually have nothing to go on and thus aren't as confident as you are.

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: minimegaexcept this one, such a weak entrance

saude top tier read time

tbh i don't think the entrance was very weak? explain

Well she felt the need to explain her rvs vote.. like an excuse
And the first post beforehand was a quote to something not game related either

She's still not very confident in FM so that's more of a personality thing, take that from me who knows her irl. Or wait for shelly to have an S/S read on us because they like stretching the truth

[JacksonVirgo]

Scum also ike to scumread people early on. Town usually have nothing to go on and thus aren't as confident as you are.

Yeah, and I actually like duppin's blatant admittance at voting me for being anti-town, rather than me being scummy.

Yeah same duppin is probably town for that

[JacksonVirgo]

im a bit shocked at how y'all give townpass to duppin vs. majority TR on noraa
i wonder if this is alignment indicative

Im a bit shocked how you just ignore the reasonings to "townpass" duppin and majority TR on noraa I wonder if this is alignment indicative

[JacksonVirgo]

Im a bit shocked how you just ignore the reasonings to "townpass" duppin and majority TR on noraa I wonder if this is alignment indicative

this is a scumslip

Lmfao

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm not entirely sure if shelly's cockiness and/or retaliatory attitude this game is AI. I only have known their scum games.

[JacksonVirgo]

I WAS BAITING.

not directly attacking me for bullshitting. TMI

What

[JacksonVirgo]

I was planning to test the wagon speed on jv, but turns out everyone dipped

Uhhh, what

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm not entirely sure if shelly's cockiness and/or retaliatory attitude this game is AI. I only have known their scum games.

She's so much less confident/cocky in her completed towngame. That's what scares me a little.

So you're saying more confident/cocky is scum!ai? As far as you are aware of course

[JacksonVirgo]

The duppin thingy was also bait.

I find the TR when I bullshitted pretty indicative of town!duppin

So you're 180'ing on your own read by giving the excuse of "haha lol it was a bait"

[JacksonVirgo]

Uhhh, what

I was trying to see if anyone would jump on.

it's indicative of scum!jv tbh

You voted literally seconds before saying it was a bait, the fuck are you on

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh that was a close one!

[JacksonVirgo]

Shelly is flailing like nothing I've seen before

[JacksonVirgo]

You voted literally seconds before saying it was a bait, the fuck are you on

your reaction was like this:

If it's town!you you would basically say "NO I DIDN'T SCUMSLIP WTF YOU'RE SCUM FRAMING ME“
scum!you knows I am town!me and therefore did not immedatiely scumread me

i got the reaction I wanted

Uh what. Name a town game of mine which I did that. Also, what

[JacksonVirgo]

I can't wait for others to react to what shelly just said lol

[JacksonVirgo]

The thing is I am not sure if shelly is just incredibly cocky and think they're the best scum-reader in the world or they're scum.

[JacksonVirgo]

Have you played any games with shelly, Jacko? Or is it just the game you modded for her?

Only completed game I've seen of theirs is my hosted game. Not sure what I am allowed to say beyond that so I'll leave it at that.

[JacksonVirgo]

Uh what. Name a town game of mine which I did that. Also, what

I'm generalising

So you really have nothing, are you reading from a wiki page from 2012 or something.

[JacksonVirgo]

So you really have nothing, are you reading from a wiki page from 2012 or something.

no lol

its not from 2012

I understand why you've been so useless. News flash, you're using that information wrong.

[JacksonVirgo]

the way you flip on me concerns me a tiny bit

Something something OMGUS for the 3rd time this game

[JacksonVirgo]

Yeah fuck off you meant that. Lmfao
VOTE: shellyc

[JacksonVirgo]

yeah mega was reactionary during her whole stay here, mostly just replying/reacting to other posts and reads

She tends to do that as town, I don't remember ever reading into a scum-game of theirs that much so not sure if it's NAI or town!ai. But I could also be wrong

[JacksonVirgo]

Shelly ignoring logic and meta against them is cute, appealing to ridicule

[JacksonVirgo]

jackson fence-sitting again

How am I fence-sitting, I clearly SR you and I clearly TR mini. If that's fence-sitting, I will shit bricks

[JacksonVirgo]

But I could also be wrong

Bruh

[JacksonVirgo]

Shelly ignoring logic and meta against them is cute, appealing to ridicule

note to self regarding this post

I come from a chat mafia site where I have the reputation for being aggressive + assertive

also

meta is trash

Cool, yet obviously town!you on this site is not as aggressive according to jester and I'm supposed to just trust your word for it.

[JacksonVirgo]

Shelly: Gives meta read on themselves.
Also Shelly: Meta is trash

[JacksonVirgo]

Wow, did shelly just do what I think they just did

[JacksonVirgo]

My most accurate reads come from meta, I caught two scum in D1 because of it once.

[JacksonVirgo]

I don't meta-read often don't worry, but I do agree that it's a solid resource to tap into but not use as a case on it's own.

[JacksonVirgo]

My most accurate reads come from my big

Nice

[JacksonVirgo]

idk why confidence is a scumtell since scum usually hedge their bets since they know all info and need to be careful as to how much they can be wrong

Dude, it's not a scum-tell. It's YOUR scum-tell

[JacksonVirgo]

bowing down to saude and trying not to be controversial, +5 scumpoints

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

Wait were you not voting me before? Aight

[JacksonVirgo]

You can think that all you want

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm gonna leave and hopefully when I get back shelly is less toxic lel. Byeeeeeeeeeee

[JacksonVirgo]

Redados SRing a common TR is town-telling.

[JacksonVirgo]

I wouldn't say Saudade is a common TR here.

Oh? I thought a lot of people were TRing them

[JacksonVirgo]

We need NEE here fam

[JacksonVirgo]

why NEE and not anyone else?

pedit: explain noraa then

Because NEE is NEE and if they're town they will stabilize the town

[JacksonVirgo]

Posting readlists are semi-useless.

[JacksonVirgo]

What benefit does posting constant readlists do

[JacksonVirgo]

Also what benefit does saying -3 town points evne do outside of discrediting.

[JacksonVirgo]

What benefit does posting constant readlists do

I don't expect mine to help others. It's more helpful to myself than anything else.

That's why I usually get a private PT, regardless of alignment to not clog up the day thread and to keep notes.

I see constant read-lists as both annoying and as fake content.

[JacksonVirgo]

I see constant read-lists as both annoying and as fake content.

how is it fake content to state your stances on others. weird

Producing actual content is better than any read-list ever.



Anyone can say
Mundivore - Town.
Jester - Town
Shelly - scum.

Actually saying "Jester is probably town because they're actively scum-reading and they are actually adapting their reads in a progressive way, shelly is scum because o their flailing regarding the reaction test and incredible retaliatory actions towards anyone that even shows any kind of scum-read or attack on themself"

[JacksonVirgo]

oh boy the next time somebody scumreads me its gonna be a blast

Saudade this is not ok. Every game I play with you, you come tell me ur gonna SR me bc of my playstyle. if uk that it's 100% biased and not reliable, then y tf r u bringing it up? I don't think this is AI since it has happened more than once but dude can you cut it out? You told us a few posts ago that you played three games with shelly and two she was scum and the other you got a day one lim on town!shelly. Do you not see a problem here? You need to look at each game separately while referencing what you need to reference, not carry a bias/grudge from game to game and literally start each game off by telling everyone u SR me or shelly bc of our playstyle. It's not cool, its not helpful, and I don't think the people you do it to appreciate it. Can you stop?

[JacksonVirgo]

YALL SUCK
specifically Jackson and Saudade
u two both owe me lots of money >:(
and I want interest too <.<

Sorry :c

[JacksonVirgo]

(insert name) is scum. To begin with your entire play is scummy. Your first posts? Bleh. They looked like you copy pasted some random townies posts from some other game. You even copied an extra name that DOESN'T happen to be your name. All these points made on you are very valid yet you have failed to reply to any of them which shows you have nothing to say to all these Fos' and SRs on you. Your play as town is less scummy and you actually try to push the game forward whereas right now your just a sneaky little scum trying to go with the flow. Please get better reads and learn to play a better scum game. Much appreciated ^^
(your name)

Your welcome and u guys better use it otherwise I just wasted 5 minutes thinking this up

Noraa is scum. To begin with your entire play is scummy. Your first posts? Bleh. They looked like you copy pasted some random townies posts from some other game. You even copied an extra name that DOESN'T happen to be your name. All these points made on you are very valid yet you have failed to reply to any of them which shows you have nothing to say to all these Fos' and SRs on you. Your play as town is less scummy and you actually try to push the game forward whereas right now your just a sneaky little scum trying to go with the flow. Please get better reads and learn to play a better scum game. Much appreciated ^^
JV

[JacksonVirgo]

Can you please hold my hand like im a small child and talk me through the reads you have on one another.

yes

Jackson perspective slipped when I tried to bait and TMI'd that I was town therefore scum
Noraa is self aware and has very artificial reads and isn't solving therefore scum
jester is a big null
megabyte's paranoia reads genuine
red's reads are cool and good logical trajectories + genuine
saude is town for meta reasons and for aggro pushing on people. isn't afraid to stand out with mini vote either

Explain how I perspective slipped.

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh, Jackson, you have many games showing the level at which you can bus laying around?

I only have 2 scum games on the site rn (except an SK game)

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=81576
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=82510

I remember soft-bussing my buddy in 1974 (which led to a loss) and I do not remember 1993 but I don't remember bussing. In my discord mafia and my home site games I bus a lot and I really shouldn't lol.

[JacksonVirgo]

can you elaborate on this?? like I don't think Jackson's view is especially townie

pers. slip was when I baited you you returned with a TR on me

How the fuck is that a perspective slip. If you're saying that if you SR me I have to SR you back immediately you're delusional. Town suspects town all the time and it's not AI in the slightest by itself.

[JacksonVirgo]

Good to know NorwegianGuy.

Call me Norwee plz.

Oh do you prefer that? Or do you not mind if I call you NEE

That’s fine too. But Norwegianguy reminds me of that awkward portion of my childhood where my acc was named that and someone stole it and impersonated me.

Oh alright, didn't want to overstep or anything

[JacksonVirgo]

quoting myself, sometimes town are just... town

You better stop quoting that right now sir, i’m still pretty angry about you-know-what.

Oofers indeed

[JacksonVirgo]

Noraa and Shelly, you two both have that fucking evening sun avi and it’s the most confusing thing EVER.

I just hosted a newbie game with them both as scum and it was hilarious

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: minimegaexcept this one, such a weak entrance

saude top tier read time

tbh i don't think the entrance was very weak? explain

Well she felt the need to explain her rvs vote.. like an excuse
And the first post beforehand was a quote to something not game related either

Saudade explaining his reads. Lockscum.

I am seeing this as a joke but does this hold any actual weight?

[JacksonVirgo]

well thats a lot of spam, i guess the timezone difference could end up being an issue
i almost want to vote norwegianboyee for the annoying one line spam but given you are probably the only one in the same timezome as me ill ignore it for now

Anyway I don't really want to argue against the townreads on me because I think that is awkward, however what I will say is that I would probably not townread someone for doing it because I am of the opinion that as scum it is very easy to push policy lynches as it is easy to justify and a good way of participating in the game.
In other words if Jester is town then it would be very easy for scum to justify a vote on him because due to his play he is pretty much just a policy lynch at this point.
I actually agree with what Jester said regarding meta and I am sure he understands that that is why I am voting on him. Do I believe Jester is scum? I am of the opinion that it would be dumb and a bit shitty towards your teammates to vote on yourself as scum as it is an easy way to put yourself out as a policy lynch - but I absolutely refuse to townread for him. I am also of the opinion that town should absolutely never vote on themselves because the only one they know for certain is town is themselves. I believe giving someone a pass for self voting is a big mistake as it essentially opens up for scum doing it for easy town credit in the long run.
I also think it is an easy way for Jester to try to make it part of his meta and I think that is awful so no matter what his alignment is I will push for it out of principle. So yes if Jester continues voting on himself I will also vote on him

I hope you're not expecting me to read any of that

[JacksonVirgo]

UNVOTE: shelly
fwiw I think I fell into a tunnel like I tend to be doing lately.

[JacksonVirgo]

Guys I am in a dilemma. It's 11pm almost rn and I start work at 11am and finish at 7pm. My girlfriend is also working but they start earlier. I can either go with her to work (leaving at 4:30am) or do I stay asleep for a bit and bike to work at around 10am.

[JacksonVirgo]

Guys I am in a dilemma. It's 11pm almost rn and I start work at 11am and finish at 7pm. My girlfriend is also working but they start earlier. I can either go with her to work (leaving at 4:30am) or do I stay asleep for a bit and bike to work at around 10am.

I say "my girlfriend" forgetting that she's playing this game and will definitely see this and now I am going to be in so much shit lmfaooooooooooooooo

save me...

[JacksonVirgo]

Fwiw, I think Norwegian, Noraa, ODJ and Mini are town.
Could people explain to me why bugspray is so high in peoples reads?

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm off to sleep now, I might just sleep in.

[JacksonVirgo]

I am tired, leave me alone lol

[JacksonVirgo]

Gut still pings me that shelly is scum, and even if they're not. They're acting anti-town as hell
VOTE: shelly

[JacksonVirgo]

Chocolate?

[JacksonVirgo]

Strawberry?

[JacksonVirgo]

?

[JacksonVirgo]

Ignore me I think I'm drunk from tiredness. Night all

[JacksonVirgo]

@shelly. People disagreeing with you or agreeing with scum is not AI by itself. In the perspective of scum!me, what about that makes UNOwen scum and not town that's just reading you as scum.

pedit: If it's wrong then it's wrong.


pedit2: Sheeping is not exactly the same as reciprocating reads, at least not in my vocabulary. Even if they're the same thing in other's reads as soon as anyone does a second vote on a player are you going to SR them? Lmfao

Also you're very insistant on doing reaciton tests that literally aren't doing anything except make you look like an idiot.

pedit3: That isn't town!ai what

[JacksonVirgo]

jackson just unvoted and then voted for ????? reason

your gut is wrong btw

I literally said the reasons for both, thanks for shading

[JacksonVirgo]

They're acting anti-town as hell

my play is incredibly protown

my noraa read got us out of RVS
my jackson bait + read sparked a whole discussion giving the plist a whole avenue to sort us
I got the grendel wagon moving
why tf would I spend my time baiting and giving reads as scum
why tf would I make the whole plist hate me

tell me how my play is scum indicative

Noraa read was stupid, getting out of RVS is nai.
Your me read was stupid and got nowhere fast except when you made it excruciatingly obvious you were pulling reads out of your ass and lying, and then trying to fix those lies.
Getting a wagon moving is nai
Why tf would you spend time claiming an impossible role to get a PR lynched instead of just killing them at night. Your play-styles as scum are irregular.
Because you just have the skill to do that without meaning to.

[JacksonVirgo]

idk why y'all can't believe that my play is aggressive and confident and I like pushing my reads super hard and will scumread you to hell and back if you shade me

OMGUS at it's finest

[JacksonVirgo]

Even if i disregard it I still scumread them
if you don't mind I can make another big ugly quote wall but don't have the energy for that now

Sure.
Can you answer my question about 646?

646

[JacksonVirgo]

Why tf would you spend time claiming an impossible role to get a PR lynched instead of just killing them at night. Your play-styles as scum are irregular.
Because you just have the skill to do that without meaning to.

lol you're just bullshitting with meta

You cannot say meta is not reliable because it is, if you can't do it effectively or for the right purpose that is your issue and not mine.

Also I love how you completely ignore my points only to shade me for them.

[JacksonVirgo]

redados' never been scum probably, so if anything the self aware play is town indicative

a newb!scum (at least from my brain cells) isn't the self aware type as they aren't even very aware about what to do to manipulate the town.

Oh boy how wrong you are, newb!scum are probably the most self-aware.

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh my god imagine a vigi!shelly in this position lmfaooooo town would just lose

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh boy how wrong you are, newb!scum are probably the most self-aware.

okay at least from my experiences newbscum arent self aware so might give you this

Yeah I think that's an experience thing, maybe people you've run into weren't but those I have were.

[JacksonVirgo]

/reveal as Innocent Child

Do you see why I think you're stupid shell?

[JacksonVirgo]

a newb!scum (at least from my brain cells) isn't the self aware type as they aren't even very aware about what to do to manipulate the town.

Newb!scum might not be aware how to manipulate town, but they are likely to be more aware of how the rest of the game is perceiving them and be making efforts to appear reasonable. Certainly that was my experience, and I don't think I am atypical.

Yeah that's what I see from my experience as well. But maybe shell has different experiences I am unsure.

@Shell, do you remember how Noraa was acting in the doggo game? iirc they were incredibly self-conscious

[JacksonVirgo]

@Shell, do you remember how Noraa was acting in the doggo game? iirc they were incredibly self-conscious

yes

i dont think thats very self conscious, maybe we have different definitions

How would you define it? I define it as being aware of how one is perceived to others and making actions accordingly and/or to be read/perceived in a specific way.

pedit: I fucking hope that was a joke because mine was oh god did I just fuck up a joke this bad.

[JacksonVirgo]

Hoooly fucking shit I have made a big mistake if that was real

[JacksonVirgo]

I am dying... oh no

[JacksonVirgo]

oh god...

[JacksonVirgo]

I will take your silence as a "holy shit I fucked up really bad"

[JacksonVirgo]

Dude please please please tell me that was a joke

[JacksonVirgo]

I mean it makes sense if you were... that's why i am dying so bad

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh no... I AM SO SORRY OH MY GOD

[JacksonVirgo]

UNVOTE:

Unvoting in pure shame, you have no idea how shitty this feels

[JacksonVirgo]

Dude please please please tell me that was a joke

I do not admit. I do not deny

Please.. don't give me hope

[JacksonVirgo]

Wow, that was another reaction yet this one was actually pretty good outside of your outcome of it.
Would town just go "Haha lol let me keep my vote"

VOTE: shelly

[JacksonVirgo]

Someone tunneling an IC is nai, if it was pre-reveal. But holy fuck a whole lot of weight just fell off my shoulders

[JacksonVirgo]

My thoughts were that you were being incredibly cocky and being aggressive because you know you can't be lynched (as you're the IC). But for once in my life I am glad I was wrong.

[JacksonVirgo]

okay... im kinda coming to a world where Jackson is town.

the "I fucked up" posts were pretty geniune.

[JacksonVirgo]

I think that's queue for me to sleep and never do that bluff ever ever again.

[JacksonVirgo]

Not going to lie here though, why would scum ever claim IC back at their lynch target that just "revealed" as IC.

My brain hurts

[JacksonVirgo]

UNVOTE:
I'll unvote for now and will reconsider when I have a few hours sleep

[JacksonVirgo]

Is Jackson the kind of guy that goes into an full page of OH THE HUMANITY! speech because he wagoned an obvious IC fake claim or is it acting.

This is probably not aimed at me so I'll choose to just say this instead of answering it

[JacksonVirgo]

okay... im kinda coming to a world where Jackson is town.

the "I fucked up" posts were pretty geniune.

Really? I thought they were kinda weird and unnatural and made me question my read on him.
But sure, if you think so.

Honestly, I kinda did too but then Jacko seems to be on very little sleep, considering he's been in the thread for the past forever.

I've been getting shit all sleep lately

[JacksonVirgo]

Norwegian you are scum this game arent you

I'm not scum, r u scum?
I'm not getting the same vibes from you like usual.
You seem to be focusing more on complaining about the active posters. Kinda like you did when we were scum together in a previous mini. Where all you did was not really scum hunt and complain about users with anime avatars.

I've never played with them so I have no idea if this is legit or not

[JacksonVirgo]

^scums never like to start or hammer wagons

This isn't accurate sorry, I see plenty of scum that start and hammer wagons

[JacksonVirgo]

it's been a while since two people have voted me in a game, what a wonderful feeling

Yeah this can die
VOTE: Sausage

[JacksonVirgo]

Mundivore can be town for now, epic

[JacksonVirgo]

At work but RIP grendel

[JacksonVirgo]

it's been a while since two people have voted me in a game, what a wonderful feeling

Yeah this can die
VOTE: Sausage

jacko what happened to your hard scumread on me again

I am still paranoid but I think your reaction + claiming IC back at me is probably town.

[JacksonVirgo]

Mafia won ffs

[JacksonVirgo]

When you really think about it, we're all winners at the end of the day. Except for the ones that lost.

I don't allow "Bah" posts in my ruleset. -MT

Is shelly not gonna be given a harsh warning for imitating the mod here?

No they posted something else and the mod edited, I think I'm allowed to post here? It was so obvious that I was mafia this game lol

[JacksonVirgo]

gg

[JacksonVirgo]

My d1 was glorious, yet somehow shelly survived the utter bs that happened D1 lmfaoooo.

And yeah I had to replace out because I knew the mafia due to mini uwu

[JacksonVirgo]

I've seen a lot of cute bats now and I am thankful <3

[JacksonVirgo]

My d1 was glorious, yet somehow shelly survived the utter bs that happened D1 lmfaoooo.

And yeah I had to replace out because I knew the mafia due to mini uwu

you untunnelled tho

my craft as scum is make enough people SR me, just enough

I was going to 100% push you again but literally I looked over to my left and bam saw the mafia PT lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[JacksonVirgo]

My d1 was glorious, yet somehow shelly survived the utter bs that happened D1 lmfaoooo.

And yeah I had to replace out because I knew the mafia due to mini uwu

you untunnelled tho

my craft as scum is make enough people SR me, just enough

I was going to 100% push you again but literally I looked over to my left and bam saw the mafia PT lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooo

This is why I can't play with Mini anymore and why we're gonna focus on just hydra'ing