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Oh cool more people I know joined after I did
ngl I mostly forgot about this
Baldur's gate is making other things easy to forget
I'd like to take a moment to clarify to a few players in particular that my playstyle has now become considerably more efficient, in that I will still find scum for you but I'm not as likely to put in the effort to tell you why they are scum, and you shouldn't expect me to hyperpost like I used to. I have a job now and that means I have less time, but I still have the same number of things that get to conflict with me playing mafia. On an unrelated note, back to Baldur's gate."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Shit I missed this tooIn post 848, Almost50 wrote:
Did you read the intro & specifications to the game you signed up to??In post 832, Titus wrote:Since when do scum pick the setup at all?
schadd_ wrote:motifs of the series:
assignment of roles to town by mafia; heavy information to mafia;night actions being determined by events (e.g., two players are assigned to collaboratively use a doctor ability); normal roles or otherwise non-flashy roles; uncertain guilties vs. certain innocents; setup fake-outs; vanilla by any other name tastes just as sweet."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Nonono, someone has gone through a list of roles and assigned me the one that fits me and the way I tend to play the leastIn post 1037, superbowl9 wrote:
Yeah I wouldn't want to roll caught scum either :/In post 1032, jjh927 wrote:Okay my role is like, the worst imaginable that could be assigned to jjh927"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I am what they call an early game player because I actually find scum in the early game and then I get killed so I don't get to play in the late game
I only tend to see lategame when I have roles that can prevent me from dying, my record with which speaks for itself"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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When Mastina shows up at the same time as me I'll roleclaim and get to some serious discussion about which of the people who I've played with extensively decided to give me this role
PEdit: That's not good input or as funny as you think it is, owl"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Who said that? That's not how large themes workIn post 1048, PlusJOYED wrote:12 pages overnight
remeber when someone said this day will be around 50 pages? lol"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I wasn't trying to beIn post 1341, Bell wrote:
You were not being subtle about this.In post 1338, jjh927 wrote:Anyway so I'm ascetic"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Don't think soIn post 1349, Bell wrote:As scum you wouldn’t gambit like this would you?
Can't see scum!me pulling a gambit day 1 of a large theme. Too much risk."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Day 1 is day 1. I don't agree this kind of thing needs to be claimed in the first post. Just needs to be claimed at some point when I feel like doing so, preferably in a way that doesn't fuck with RVSIn post 1591, EchoVision wrote:
why wait till page 50 something to do it though?In post 1347, jjh927 wrote:It needs to be a day1 claim from me so people don't waste protectives
i don't really think it's AI i'm just curious"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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no uIn post 1601, superbowl9 wrote:
^This is so badIn post 1598, jjh927 wrote:
Day 1 is day 1. I don't agree this kind of thing needs to be claimed in the first post. Just needs to be claimed at some point when I feel like doing so, preferably in a way that doesn't fuck with RVSIn post 1591, EchoVision wrote:
why wait till page 50 something to do it though?In post 1347, jjh927 wrote:It needs to be a day1 claim from me so people don't waste protectives
i don't really think it's AI i'm just curious"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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1 or both of them?In post 4488, shellyc wrote:
who is scum in there if you're notIn post 4485, jjh927 wrote:Nope
I don't have thoughts there yet other than obviously that pete has over 50% likelihood to be scum
I think I liked Bell day 1 but can't remember that long ago rn"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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In post 4513, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Alright i finished reading the hood.
This game should be a win if we just don't paranoia eliminate any of the hood members and just go for the scummy outsiders. That's the challenge here, scum will probably be trying all they can to suggest the non-town town alligned groups are evil 3P's that cannot be trusted as this is the only way for them to win.In post 4518, Morning Mage wrote:As an unwilling passenger in this 7 player power-bloc, I'll just throw this out there:
What if the Titus-faction is a cult?"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Real setup spec shit is that this game is clearly all playing around with alignments and shit, which is kinda memed by the sample role PM in post 0. I remember seeing that at the start of the game and thinking it would be a challenge to design a game that could be usable in, let alone useful. But here we are.
I'd suggest that scum might have a scum that has a wincon aligned with king doris donatello's army, but is not a member of king doris donatello's army. Like, maybe king doris donatello. I bet he's not a member of his own army."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Misread this postIn post 5002, Pickaxe Pete wrote:I don't have any reason to trust you or not to trust you other than the claims and as you point out, the numbers (where did the exact number of 5 come from though). I don't have any reason to believe that the army isn't scum either. I just don't understand why members of your "town" 3P are acting scummy."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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In relation to thisIn post 5323, Morning Mage wrote:
how so?In post 5321, jjh927 wrote:
Misread this postIn post 5002, Pickaxe Pete wrote:I don't have any reason to trust you or not to trust you other than the claims and as you point out, the numbers (where did the exact number of 5 come from though). I don't have any reason to believe that the army isn't scum either. I just don't understand why members of your "town" 3P are acting scummy.
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What are you talking about? I never suggested any such thing?In post 5273, jjh927 wrote:Of the funky little trio I'm in, I'm a little confused by Pete suggesting nothing indicates the army is scum when Gamma literally claimed scum"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I need to finish the catchup and bring everything together. My gut is objectively wrong as it conflicts with info from this part of the game, so I don't think it's worth me putting any of those reads on paper at presentIn post 5532, Chemist1422 wrote:okay but
your ISO from this weekend is pretty much just setup spec
you said you're still reading which is fine but what have you gotten from what you have read so far
other than DDL scum"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Mastina, me calling Menalque a mafia roleblocker was memeing
The roleblocker half was the meme half
Menalque rolls roleblocker more often than statistically likely
I was looking to vote elsewhere at that point in the game but finding the time to commit to mafia now is harder than it used to be"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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It's highly likely to be a trueclaim. Not necessarily town. I'm most concerned with how Chemist interacted with the April wagon given the Titus result. Chemist would have been the motion on Titus. This is considerably better info for things than the fairly arbitrary gossip thing. At the same time, I don't think Chemist's mechanics are the best and honestly it's probably not malicious. I think the way the claim has been handled is probably town indicative.In post 5556, Almost50 wrote:@jjh: What do you think of that claim?
I would like some more details on the specifics of the role. Is there a reaction to each action targeting a player? Is the reaction a summation of all actions targeting a player, if more than 1 targets someone?"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Yeah that's fair, but I'm still not gonna treat you to golden gutreads like superbowl scum that I need to remove from my frame of referenceIn post 5759, mastina wrote:
For the record, jjh.In post 5539, jjh927 wrote:I need to finish the catchup and bring everything together. My gut is objectively wrong as it conflicts with info from this part of the game, so I don't think it's worth me putting any of those reads on paper at present
I'm not gonna pull the same mistake as I did in Jingle's large and actively contribute to your death, but.
I will certainly swoop to the level of not defending you if I don't see you air your thoughts out, even if you know they're wrong.
I want to see what you're thinking even if it does conflict."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Here's a funny oneIn post 5783, mastina wrote:
Correct. I was both Mastin and mastin2, tho notably, I have changed with time and each account was remarkably different in very very very major ways.In post 5645, Bell wrote:I was leaning slightly town on Mastina at this point, but and correct me if I'm wrong I believe mastina was originally named Mastin on this site?
And even on this account, there's been a major shift.
Notably: scumastina was an absolutely terrifyingly good scum player for years upon years. As mastin2 I was good, and when I switched to mastina, I was just as good if not better. I believe it was 2018 or so that was the year of scumastina where she got scum almost every single game and in spite of being town in a minority of games, performed incredibly well in most of those scumgames with none of them being really the same as the other.
...But then I lost something inside of me. I don't know what I lost, but some time after 2018, scumastina justdied, because from 2019 and continuing into 2020, I've just. Never had a good scumgame; things that used to never apply to her scumgame, now do. Like, legitimately, for years upon years upon years I insisted that activity was not a tell for me, that me being inactive was not a scumtell...because for years upon years it wasn't, I was just as inactive if not more as town than as scum...but at some point...I legitimately became inactive as scum, and I don't know how, don't know why, but I've never been able to be an active scum player playing at my high level since 2018. Not had a single good scumgame since then. It's like instead of being really damn good at the game regardless of alignment, I traded it for being slightly better at town than I was before but significantly worse as scum. (And yes, I am overall, legitimately slightly better as town and I feel overall that Iama very strong town player. Fairly good at looking town, fairly accurate reads overall, and fairly able to get people to follow me on those reads. But being better doesn't make me perfect as I still have fuckups. Like April. )
Mastina, the first game I played with you (excluding team mafia 2018, because we weren't in the same game there) was this one (extra points if you know what it is before you click on it.)"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Correct mechanical play with regard to lynches is always a bit of a strange one and I don[t think it needs to be entirely mechanical. Right now, I think you have a very strong grasp on the gamestate- certainly much stronger than mine at this time- and your thoughts are well reasoned. I think you're probably more likely to hit scum on your judgment here than we would be with a conventional lynch, quite frankly- assuming we explicitly ignored going for DDL. You also have sight of more of the mechanical pieces in play than I do, so I'd guess it's best to discuss that with Mastina in the hood rather than getting my opinion on that.
Now, the 'correct' theoretical play obviously changes because you're looking to keep that 3p group sweet with that whole lynch thing. Do they want you to keep DDL for them? If so, I'd say that's the correct play. That's the best compromise.
Technically you could capitulate even further, but that's a bad call- you see, if you took out Pickaxe Pete despite townreading him, with the intention of flipping him as town, it would make it more clear that DDL was scum. That, however, is stupid- this line of reasoning is more here to evidence that offering a likely scum as an option to the other 3p group rather than just lynching there is technically a concession in terms of optimal play for town.
I'm not really confident at all on Chemist's alignment here- if anything I would lean town there. I think Shelly was actually conftowned mechanically by the disloyal thing and don't think that should be disregarded as easily as it has been.
At this stage, I think the scumteam is most likely to be DDL, Taylor, DS, and one of TGP and S_S.
I think you should shoot DDL if the other 3Ps don't care if you leave DDL for them or not, and go with your gut otherwise. I'd feel better if your reads were aligned with mine, but my reads aren't even entirely aligned with mine right now so yours are probably more accurate."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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NopeIn post 6223, MathBlade wrote:^ Scum who knows Chemist flips town?"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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