Newbie 2036 - Game Over

[Tayl0r Swift]

VOTE: wiyvern

hammertime!

[Fredrick A Campbell]

VOTE: wiyvern

No, this is the hammer.

[wiyvern]

Spoiler:

On mobile so short post.

Fredrick, why'd you vote for Gawr/wiyvern?

Because they replaced in and decided to remain silent.

VOTE: wiyvern

L-1

Why are you voting me now?

[wiyvern]

sheeping oram. its a good case. im overgamed and busy and im outsourcing. i did mostly like your entrance but some LAMIST and oram i like more i think.

Lamist how?

[Tayl0r Swift]

were you town wiyvern?

[wiyvern]

I wasn't hammered was I?

[Tayl0r Swift]

you were

[wiyvern]

Afaict I only have 3 votes from you, Fred, and omar

[Tayl0r Swift]

were you scum?

[wiyvern]

No but I don't think I was hammered

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Spoiler:

On mobile so short post.

Fredrick, why'd you vote for Gawr/wiyvern?

Because they replaced in and decided to remain silent.

VOTE: wiyvern

L-1

Why are you voting me now?

Because ORAM's case convinced me that you are scum.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Your response to more votes on you isn't making me think you are town, by the way.

[wiyvern]

Well, idk what else to really say and I can't really defend myself from a bunch of votes with no reasoning

[wiyvern]

@oram

I wouldn't really expect someone, regardless of alignment, to talk about someone who posted only 4 times in the first page of the game very much. so idk why you're basically basing your read on the fact that Mark ignored my slot. Also, when you said "why would mark not go for the lowest of fruits" or something, I don't think it'd make sense for mafia to try and push an inactive slot, especially when he was under some fire already.

[wiyvern]

UNVOTE:

[Fredrick A Campbell]

@oram

I wouldn't really expect someone, regardless of alignment, to talk about someone who posted only 4 times in the first page of the game very much. so idk why you're basically basing your read on the fact that Mark ignored my slot. Also, when you said "why would mark not go for the lowest of fruits" or something, I don't think it'd make sense for mafia to try and push an inactive slot, especially when he was under some fire already.

Why do you think "it doesn't make sense for mafia to try and push an inactive slot, especially when he was under some fire already."?

[donkihott]

A lot of people are defending hessian and I hope that someone with a role cleared her but wants to preserve his role. I really want to think that Oram is from the good guys since he was marked as scum from Mark.

I too am not a fan of the idea that Mark intentionally left wiyvern out of the picture. He couldn't build an argument against him at all since wiyvern (gawr then) didn't say anything whatsoever. I would've say something about wiyvern hopping on the "donkihott's an obvious mafia who slipped up" train kind of thing but then Omar mentioned it as well so I think that it is just an argument a lot of people seem as reasonable.

I may bring my Mjolnir soon if you are okay with it and wiyvern can't defend himself, even though I still have some ptsd from the previous one .

One last thing, when someone is replaced how do you address the player. Should I just use wiyvern's nick interchangeably or should I base it on context, since what gawr said may not be what wiyvern thinks at all.

[donkihott]

UNVOTE: hessian

[Satisfaction]

Give wiyvern a chance to claim before you hammer. We have a little time left. If they are a PR I’d rather swap back to donkihott, personally.

@wiyvern: what’s your role?

@donkihott: I like using “wiyvern=Gawr” or something similar. Or sometimes “wiyvern slot.”

[Satisfaction]

+500 bravery points if you yolo hammer again, though.

[Satisfaction]

@donkihott: would you respond to this please? If the beginning of 226 was meant to be the response, I’d prefer a direct statement about the post I’m talking about here if you don’t mind.

... I sus hessian ...

I know you do. Read hessian’s 34 and tell me if you think that seems like a post scum!hessian would have made.

While we're on the subject of tone, I wanted to add that this word choice (underlined by me) felt a bit off, kind of like a manufactured town-tell. I think "comes across as town" would have been much more natural wording...

When I first read this, it came across as mildly scummy (voting another player to avoid dying themselves) but the more I think about this, the more town-ish it seems as what he specifically said that he didn't want to die on D1. I mean this is page 1 so take all this with a bit of salt, but it kinda comes across as

a fellow townie

. A scum wouldn't want to die period, but I know the feeling of being town, accepting that I may well die in the course of events (eg NK) but wanting to make it past the first day. I'm gonna put Donki down as a very mild town tell for now.

[Satisfaction]

My gut says that Satisfaction is town.

I am neutral about everyone else, other than donkihott.

Being neutral on over half the player list at this point in the game (page 9) rubs me the wrong way. Can you share an update with us?

How do you feel about any of the evidence that supports Fred and Tay being spewed town? How do you feel about ORAM’s entrance?

[donkihott]

Well... it doesn't seem like scum post actually quite the opposite. I hope that "satisfies" you as a direct response

[donkihott]

Well, idk what else to really say and I can't really defend myself from a bunch of votes with no reasoning

We want to know your role

[ORAM]

I'm here but don't have a lot to add right now. Waiting on the gamestate to progress. People can ask me stuff if they want.