mystery box of silver 10. (done)

[Something_Smart]

However if you think that DDL is the scummiest in the group and want to leave him so the 3p's can get their wincon off of him, then you should feel only a mild inclination to shoot in the group.

[Something_Smart]

Oh, I should have kept reading lol.

Weird to ask for the input of three people and then decide before hearing from any of them.

[Titus]

However if you think that DDL is the scummiest in the group and want to leave him so the 3p's can get their wincon off of him, then you should feel only a mild inclination to shoot in the group.

?

A50 already executed DDL

[Something_Smart]

I know that NOW

[Bell]

Not really, it seems to make sense from a social sense.
It's annoying to be nagged.

[Tayl0r Swift]

I want to give the "other" 3P group a good chance to win too, so THAT is why I am considering leaving ddl alive to be D4's elimination.

uhhh what? what wincons are these exactly?

[superbowl9]

DO NOT EXECUTE OUTSIDE THE CONF GROUP UNLESS YOU DENY BASIC MATH OR ARE TRYING TO LOSE THE GAME

He has very good reasoning in that post, did you even read it?

Yes I read the post and saw the faulty logic behind it. I can post a diagram for you if you want because you don’t seem to understand

[Bell]

I want to give the "other" 3P group a good chance to win too, so THAT is why I am considering leaving ddl alive to be D4's elimination.

uhhh what? what wincons are these exactly?

It's the win con.
You know.

[Titus]

I want to give the "other" 3P group a good chance to win too, so THAT is why I am considering leaving ddl alive to be D4's elimination.

uhhh what? what wincons are these exactly?

We move closer to our wincon if we are on every scum elimination. A50s execute is not elimination.

[Tayl0r Swift]

hmmm i dont like being blatantly lied to about 3ps wincons, but at the same time, it seems like both 3ps know each other's wincons and both are still saying town aligned so probably hiding the info from scum rather than town.

as for the other bit: without knowing the wincons its hard to suggest that we dont just shoot scum. that said if you do decide to leave DDL for tomorrow, then probably shoot chemist because the claim doesnt add up.

pedit: what exactly is the wincon and what happens if you arent on every scum elimination?

[Tayl0r Swift]

hmmm i dont like being blatantly lied to about 3ps wincons, but at the same time, it seems like both 3ps know each other's wincons and both are still saying town aligned so probably hiding the info from scum rather than town.

as for the other bit: without knowing the wincons its hard to suggest that we dont just shoot scum. that said if you do decide to leave DDL for tomorrow, then probably shoot chemist because the claim doesnt add up.

pedit: what exactly is the wincon and what happens if you arent on every scum elimination?

[Something_Smart]

Yes I read the post and saw the faulty logic behind it. I can post a diagram for you if you want because you don’t seem to understand

I typed out a response to this but then I realized that it would accomplish nothing except start another stupid argument.

[Bell]

DDL is already dead.

[Almost50]

Oh, I should have kept reading lol.

Weird to ask for the input of three people and then decide before hearing from any of them.

sb kind of intimidated me.

[Tayl0r Swift]

yes i now see that ddl is dead. the perils of posting as you catch up rather than after youve read everything. well i think this was the correct move.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Oh, I should have kept reading lol.

Weird to ask for the input of three people and then decide before hearing from any of them.

sb kind of intimidated me.

why was that discussion in this thread rather than in your PT?

[Almost50]

pedit: what exactly is the wincon and what happens if you arent on every scum elimination?

You don't need to know the "exact" win con, but suffice it to say it's a points system and they gain points by

accomplishing certain objectives that coincide with town's best interest and go against Scum's

.

[DiamondSentinel]

Why bother neighborizing another in your council? You’ve already got A50 who can bridge between your factions

[Almost50]

why was that discussion in this thread rather than in your PT?

There was nothing left to hide from anyone. I needed the public opinion and he reiterated the same argument, and Math backed him up (but I don't blame him because Math doesn't know "everything"). Titus started getting cold feet too because ddl was almost unanimous, so I figured maybe leaving ddl till later may backfire.

[Almost50]

Why bother neighborizing another in your council? You’ve already got A50 who can bridge between your factions

Time-zones is one factor. They won't have to wait for me to show up and read either PT to convey questions/suggestions to the other, wait for a response and then relay said response back to the first PT.

[MathBlade]

why was that discussion in this thread rather than in your PT?

There was nothing left to hide from anyone. I needed the public opinion and he reiterated the same argument, and Math backed him up (but I don't blame him because Math doesn't know "everything"). Titus started getting cold feet too because ddl was almost unanimous, so I figured maybe leaving ddl till later may backfire.

Lmao when did I claim to know everything?

[jjh927]

A50-

Correct mechanical play with regard to lynches is always a bit of a strange one and I don[t think it needs to be entirely mechanical. Right now, I think you have a very strong grasp on the gamestate- certainly much stronger than mine at this time- and your thoughts are well reasoned. I think you're probably more likely to hit scum on your judgment here than we would be with a conventional lynch, quite frankly- assuming we explicitly ignored going for DDL. You also have sight of more of the mechanical pieces in play than I do, so I'd guess it's best to discuss that with Mastina in the hood rather than getting my opinion on that.

Now, the 'correct' theoretical play obviously changes because you're looking to keep that 3p group sweet with that whole lynch thing. Do they want you to keep DDL for them? If so, I'd say that's the correct play. That's the best compromise.
Technically you could capitulate even further, but that's a bad call- you see, if you took out Pickaxe Pete despite townreading him, with the intention of flipping him as town, it would make it more clear that DDL was scum. That, however, is stupid- this line of reasoning is more here to evidence that offering a likely scum as an option to the other 3p group rather than just lynching there is technically a concession in terms of optimal play for town.

I'm not really confident at all on Chemist's alignment here- if anything I would lean town there. I think Shelly was actually conftowned mechanically by the disloyal thing and don't think that should be disregarded as easily as it has been.

At this stage, I think the scumteam is most likely to be DDL, Taylor, DS, and one of TGP and S_S.
I think you should shoot DDL if the other 3Ps don't care if you leave DDL for them or not, and go with your gut otherwise. I'd feel better if your reads were aligned with mine, but my reads aren't even entirely aligned with mine right now so yours are probably more accurate.

[jjh927]

Hey so I saw in the PEdits there that DDL is already dead

cool stuff

[MathBlade]

^ Scum who knows Chemist flips town?

[Bell]

How come no one thinks I’m scum anymore.