Open 796: Haunted Village Game Over

[Isis]

I think you should just start with cop in case you die, but it's a secret alt so I don't really have a reason to expect him to play a certain way.

Half the people who draft PYP pick a role I think is dumb.

[MURDERCAT]

Mm yeah I mean that seems kinda unlikely to me too, Cobra seemed experienced

[Isis]

Experienced =/= shares popular opinion on nightplay.

[MURDERCAT]

I guess the problem is that I don't see any reason to do that? Like I get going against popular opinion sometimes but usually I can at least see the logic in it.

[Isis]

You save the cop shot for a night that matters more. You only get to use each one once. Or he could have some reason to think he would be roleblocker N1 but not N2. Or he could have a PR-or-scum read on me that would make tracking effective, when tracking is less effective later if I got linked day2, which is where things were going.

[MURDERCAT]

Or he could have a PR-or-scum read on me that would make tracking effective, when tracking is less effective later if I got linked day2, which is where things were going.

I'm not sure I follow this part but ok.

Would you like to share your solve to guide us after your flip tomorrow?

[Isis]

I think you rolled scum with plus and I owe xofelf an apology. That would be my best solve.

It makes a lot of sense to fake a guilty on the most suspected player in the game, that seemed like it probably got copped anyway, to get the less townread scum really townread. Then you work as the other scum that thought Christmas had arrived when Kai posted the way he did and that's why you've been playing this phase this way.

It could be gamma instead and I wouldn't really know. He's shown less of his hand.

Being in massclaim makes it easier to quell my bias for wanting to launch outed VTs. It comes up a lot.

[Isis]

VOTE: plus
Although I still haven't read the whole thread yet tbh, still phoneposting

[MURDERCAT]

I should have specified, is there one that doesn't include me

[MURDERCAT]

Didn't gamma push ego?

[Infinity 324]

Yes, thanks for reminding me. We should do VCA and partner analysis tomorrow/during night/now if people want before we decide if we want to go gamma or xof first

[MURDERCAT]

I mean I took a brief look and am feeling pretty good about limming xof. But let's cross the ts and dot the is as isis says.

[Isis]

There's nothing that keeps PlusGamma or plusxof from working, I just like +

MURDERCAT

more than those both big picture wise and small picture wise. This phase feels off and it feels like you. If I had to treat you as conftown, I would pick plusxof. Gamma is townier.

[MURDERCAT]

If I had to treat you as conftown

This sounds good, let's do this

[Isis]

MURDERCAT

, you're town IRL

[Gamma Emerald]

Why are people just clumping me with xof tbh

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw I’ve managed to fast-track a good amount of the hard work I was expecting to have to do in some other games so I should be able to do my effort in this game a day before I initially felt like I was going to be able to

[MURDERCAT]

No rush

[MURDERCAT]

MURDERCAT

, you're town IRL

[Infinity 324]

Why are people just clumping me with xof tbh

PoE

[Gamma Emerald]

But I don’t think I’ve ever really indicated being in a similar bracket to xof in any real sense myself

[PlusJOYED]

god this game is such a damn headache

ikr
i've read the wiki page like 3 times and I still miss stuff like this.
well yeah guess that means im dead tonight then. it is what it is.

[MURDERCAT]

It's ok you did good plus

[PlusJOYED]

I'm getting impatient. I refuse to let isis flip this back on me when I'm conftown, and I'm getting worried this is even a discussion when isis's case against me is "i got a guilty result on a maf and faked a vig".

Let's ponder the possibility of scum!joyed

Reminder that to do that, I'd of had to superhard bus my partner day 2 (I hate bussing but coming from me that means little. No snitching) when I could've just sat back and let "town" isis get mislimmed. Additionally, the undead are informed of their accession points and what roles exist according to the wiki. They are not informed of precise numbers of each role. I claimed WH day 2, a role I'd have known to exist already as scum at the start. People expect me to shoot someone or be roleblocked night 2. There are many scenarios where I'd fall apart there and only thing I'd of had accomplished was eliming me and a scumbuddy. I'd of had to makeup a kill target, a reason for the kill, and hope the real vig was dead. That's insane.
Finally, I'd of had 2 partners. Who here, hypothetically as my scumbuddy, would have no problems with the above plan and volunteer to die day 2? I don't know a single player that'd be ok with that.

I'll be exceptionally disappointed if you listen to her over me when I got a cop guilty and a vig kill. That's like as conftown as you can get in this setup. Let's get this mafia then let me die. I have faith you can get the last one without powers.

VOTE: isis

[Infinity 324]

Yeah we're only ever limming isis today (sorry isis ). But people want time to figure stuff out, so we should give it to them.