Mini Normal 2170: Stuff I’m Listening To [Game Over]

[Gamma Emerald]

You’d already stated a curiosity as to why Blitzo and I had interacted the way we did SoD2. Despite that, I can’t really find any thought process to how the hood reveal actually impacted anything for you there. It just looks like you only posted that as a route to suspect Blitzo rather than a genuine thought process.

[Gamma Emerald]

Blitzo’s EOD spat with Gamma Emerald also seems to have randomly disappeared – like why ? I don’t really get it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Another thing I want to point out is both Pooky and Blitzo have had a trend of missing the point of what is being said a lot, but with Blitzo it feels like genuine confusion due to being out of practice, while the way Pooky asks the questions constantly and doesn’t seem to ever really get much out of it just seems like scum trying to play up an inquisitive nature but lacking real follow-through.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Yes that was before the hood reveal.

I didn't like Blitzo's response to UG's megapost because he didn't put down his opinion on it one way or the other - instead he is asking other people what their opinions are of Gamma.

It made Blitzo look more shady because he started asking people what they thought of you after UG's megapost - he knew the basis of the issues UG had was due to mech - UG didn't know that you two were in a neighborhood together and that you talked over the night. - so he could've shut it down by saying that it was mech-related but instead he's asking other players what they think of you. I had stated this in D2.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

while the way Pooky asks the questions constantly and doesn’t seem to ever really get much out of it

I am trying to show you Blitzo is scum because his thought process doesn't make any sense if he were town.

Your answers to me are basically "yes this doesn't make sense but he's probably just confused town"

[Gamma Emerald]

Blitzo wasn’t aware of the entirety of the ongoing meta situation I was working with. So he still had some things that he wasn’t fully in on wrt my thinking. We also were pretty reluctant to out the hood up until I went full paranoia, so that may have been a factor in how Blitzo chose to handle things. As for asking about reads on me, Idk what’s up with that. Maybe ask him? I think a lot of our interaction has been you trying to feed me questions you should be asking him, as he can provide a clearer picture of his intent and thought process.
Anyway, it seems you neglected to explain your own behavior in your rush to continue pressing your Blitzo!scum angle. Neither your defense nor your offense is really convincing me you mean well here. If you’re going to press someone else, I want to see you actually tell me how their elimination sorts which slots on their scum or town flip. If you’re going to defend yourself, I want you to actually respond to the direct thing I am pressing rather than deflecting it back to Blitzo in some way.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't really know how I feel about that elimination tbh. It feels like the tunnels in this game are crazy deep and need to be reassessed.
UG was also pretty inactive and, along with the duppin kill, reeks of trying to preserve gamestate.
I think we need to reassess the fact that the reason this game might be so confusing is because TSQ is actually scum - there's pretty much no reason to kill UG over him and that really needs to be looked into.

UG checked Gamma and came back with not VT - seems likely that's where his case came from.
Makes sense to me.

like what does the first line even mean? What tunnels need to be re-assessed?

The 2nd line about preserving game-state - you say it means to keep questions from being asked - ok like what questions was UG/Duppin going to ask? He even says UG/Duppin were inactives - what were these inactives trying to do?

third line - TSQ is scum because there's "no reason to kill UG over TSQ" - like how does he even come to that conclusion? - didn't second line say UG was killed for game-state preservation?? Would killing TSQ be better for game state preservation? How?

[Gamma Emerald]

Town thought processes hardly make sense most of the time, dude. Go back and read Noraa’s posting and tell me I’m wrong (no offense).

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Blitzo isn't Noraa.

[Gamma Emerald]

I just double checked hood posts and Blitzo has thought Shea might be scum on some level since mid D1
So that’s kinda going for him, though I want to ask @Blitzo why Shea should have been killed either night?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok but you know I can't see your hood right? he's never laid out any actual reason for shea being scum other than "he's alive" and when I pressed him on it he said it's because "shea makes sense" !?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like do you see Shea disrupting the game state right now? Would this d3 look any different if Shea was unable to talk with a bullet in his head?

[Gamma Emerald]

I did more review and the Shea suspicions go back to the very beginning of the game, but he only started publicizing them around the time the hood was aired out. His concerns have to do with his lackadaisical Shea’s reads seem and how Shea hasn’t seemed as confrontational (IDK if this is the best word) as Blitzo would expect from him.

One thing I should mention btw lol
When thinking about it alongside the fact he forgot what IC was, the “forgetting scum can be in hoods” thing reads a LOT more genuine

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so he thinks you guys are masons? that makes his response to UG even worse.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i didnt even know he didnt know scum could be in a hood

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

where is that townslip?

[Gamma Emerald]

That thought was back during D1 when I still had to essentially pull teeth to interact with him much in there
Wdym where tho

[Gamma Emerald]

Playing mafia is really not the place to let my Eye of Obscurity take it slow

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im searching his iso to find the townslip

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i didnt know you meant he said that in the hood when i asked you

[Gamma Emerald]

He only townslipped about scum not being in hoods in the hood
I don’t recall him townslipping about anything in-thread

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw he also tried to follow up on his attempts to genuinely sort me he wanted to do after that realization during N1

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

UNVOTE:

ok i'll take your word that it's a credible townslip then

[Gamma Emerald]

Panzer what are your reads on all the slots rn? This is critical

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Panzer
His scum pools D1 sucked, he’s refused to explain anything and everything at every juncture, and used excuses to get away with it to boot, he has the same level on contributions as NM despite looking better on the surface, and slightly more posts

Subject: Open 657: JK9++ (Game over)

Gamma Emerald:

"HOLY SHIT THIS IS THE SCUM CAN'T YOU GUYS SEE IT?!?!"

FYI I’m still gonna be playing with the assumption that the D1 Pooky wagon was town since that just feels right based on how I tilted at it when it happened