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[shellyc]

wouldn't it make more sense for datisi to just be trying to pocket me by pointing out similarities in our thoughts/playstyles this game rather than it being a self-conscious tell where he's trying to compensate for being read as pocketing pre-emptively? especially given that... my thoughts came after his?

it feels like you're taking some convoluted paths here, logically.

thats when i start evaulating whether theres confbias involved because im always confbiased.

fwiw i now think im actually confbiased

[Ydrasse]

confbiased on what? datisi being scum?

[Gypyx]

Ok so, we're still missing 2 players, would be good to hear from them

Among the peoples that push me, i'd say that from least to most suspicious about the way they're pushing : innocentv (actually looked like he was trying to figure me out instead of piling up reasons) ico ( didn't do that much, but his reasons for scumreading me kinda crumbuled when looking at them) shellyc (hard push, based on reasons which are meant to be solid but they aren't, ofc i know shelly's meta but i'm not letting her off the hook like that)

[shellyc]

confbiased on what? datisi being scum?

obviously

rereading i feel like ydrasse/datisi is a weird block that TRs gypyx because their trajectory on me was not scummy enough
i think im inclined to lose a shade of trust in people who are not immediately obvtown and have differing takes than me

i dont think gypyx/datisi team is a thing as well

[shellyc]

shellyc (hard push, based on reasons which are meant to be solid but they aren't, ofc i know shelly's meta but i'm not letting her off the hook like that)

i think almost the whole plist knows that my inconsistencies is ammunition for scum to push on for a free misexe?

what do you think is different from my towngame here?

[Ydrasse]

confbiased on what? datisi being scum?

obviously

rereading i feel like ydrasse/datisi is a weird block that TRs gypyx because their trajectory on me was not scummy enough
i think im inclined to lose a shade of trust in people who are not immediately obvtown and have differing takes than me

i dont think gypyx/datisi team is a thing as well

okay, so, the thing is like... regardless of your confbias, why was your first thought about datisi posting the mindmeld "he's self-conscious about it being seen as pocketing so he's posting this to avoid it!" (unless i'm like, misunderstanding here) instead of "he's pointing out the mindmeld to pocket."

the latter is a LOT more straight-forward + something i feel is a lot more obvious and i kind of... don't get why you didn't start there.

[Gypyx]

i think almost the whole plist knows that my inconsistencies is ammunition for scum to push on for a free misexe?

what do you think is different from my towngame here?

You seem self-aware of your pushy / "inconsistent" nature yet when going on me you didn't try to like, control that nature

I also have trouble imaginating that you actually thought that some stuff i did was coming from scum

[shellyc]

You seem self-aware of your pushy / "inconsistent" nature yet when going on me you didn't try to like, control that nature

I also have trouble imaginating that you actually thought that some stuff i did was coming from scum

ok i cant like suddenly stop my tunnelling tendencies in one day.

gypyx are you uh townbinning the people that call you town

[shellyc]

confbiased on what? datisi being scum?

obviously

rereading i feel like ydrasse/datisi is a weird block that TRs gypyx because their trajectory on me was not scummy enough
i think im inclined to lose a shade of trust in people who are not immediately obvtown and have differing takes than me

i dont think gypyx/datisi team is a thing as well

okay, so, the thing is like... regardless of your confbias, why was your first thought about datisi posting the mindmeld "he's self-conscious about it being seen as pocketing so he's posting this to avoid it!" (unless i'm like, misunderstanding here) instead of "he's pointing out the mindmeld to pocket."

the latter is a LOT more straight-forward + something i feel is a lot more obvious and i kind of... don't get why you didn't start there.

because i overthought things
do you think me not thinking of the straight forward thing is ai

[Gypyx]

Well, i kinda instinctively wanna townbin them, but i'd just say datisi is +town and ydrasse is neutral (mainly gut feeling)

[Ydrasse]

mmmm.

i think it's slightly scummy to come up with the convoluted reason rather than seeing the one that's laid out in front of you.

[shellyc]

Well, i kinda instinctively wanna townbin them, but i'd just say datisi is +town and ydrasse is neutral (mainly gut feeling)

uhhh both of them have created content, why don't you try comment on their content?

like ydrasses tinfoil theory on me having a meta mutation and datisi's push on me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ego

[Ydrasse]

ego

you. noodles. now!!

[shellyc]

mmmm.

i think it's slightly scummy to come up with the convoluted reason rather than seeing the one that's laid out in front of you.

yeah but alas scum!me is informed and i dont think informed people come up with weird reasonings

[Ydrasse]

...eh? what would being informed have to do with weird reasoning? like, you know who's town so you're consistently stretching to try and frame things as scummy/make it up.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[Ydrasse]

Spoiler:

[shellyc]

...eh? what would being informed have to do with weird reasoning? like, you know who's town so you're consistently stretching to try and frame things as scummy/make it up.

because you know the alignments of people scum is more likely to pick up on towntells that town might miss and therefore would usually use the more direct reason, and also that scum are aware that weird reasons might look bad

and also creating content hasn't been a problem for scum!me fwiw

[MiniMegabyte]

I’m going to read everything and catch up cause I didn’t even know dag had started

[Gypyx]

mmmm.

i think it's slightly scummy to come up with the convoluted reason rather than seeing the one that's laid out in front of you.

yeah but alas scum!me is informed and i dont think informed people come up with weird reasonings

Tbf i don't think being informed prevents weird reasoning, it might even encourage it as ydrasse said

[Gypyx]

Well, i kinda instinctively wanna townbin them, but i'd just say datisi is +town and ydrasse is neutral (mainly gut feeling)

uhhh both of them have created content, why don't you try comment on their content?

like ydrasses tinfoil theory on me having a meta mutation and datisi's push on me

Ydrasse's theory makes sense to think, but i didn't really look up into your meta to see if it is true

Datisi's push is fine, i'm kinda having trouble to find alignement but i think it's town-motivated

[MiniMegabyte]

ok tone readslist

Ydrasse - not here
Iconeum - scumlean the offhanded town comments seem pretty lamisty
Datisi - townlean reading gypyx is pretty effort-y
GeorgeBailey - not here
Staarling - townlean posting isn't artificial at all
MiniMegabyte - not here
Gypyx - null, totally cant read this slot
innocentvillager - gut reads pretty town? the vibe seems rather similar to their townself from my experiences with the right amount of clowning and questioning

This is the second thing that pings me as trying to get the game moving which is townie in my eyes but we will see what happens

[MiniMegabyte]

"Shellyc posts well, fluidly as scum, doesn't necessarily have a rigid scum!trajectory either"
making readslist is strictly NAI and you're finding a bad reason to TR me

I don't see scum saying this at all

[MiniMegabyte]

can you tell me why you townlean Shelly’s readslists this early on

That kind of effort of structuring thier reads feel town to me, you see what i mean?

and here we have it

the first scumtell

(and i'm only half-joking)

How is this a scumtell?