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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:17 pm

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In post 38, Mizzytastic wrote:@cylstar, any reason you decided not to vote?
it really is as simple as not being sure of how to vote.
VOTE: c4e5g3d5?
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:19 pm

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It took me about 5 minutes. Oops. I have a bad memory.
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:09 pm

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In post 23, c4e5g3d5 wrote:It's pronounced "c4e5g3d5", hope that clears it up.
Please kindly get an avatar. It helps a lot with keeping a track of the thread when you are skimming though, by aiding in identifying others' posts at a glance
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:13 pm

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In post 24, Mizzytastic wrote:A trio of questions.


For everyone, what's your experience with mafia?

I've been into social deduction games for a while. I've played in about 8 games on site over 4 years but gotten burnt out a lot due to stress/mental health. I'm love modding and think I'm good at mechanical stuff and picking up theory quickly, but I suck at the social and emotional side and I've decided to play out my remaining newbie games before I go back to other queues.


@72offsuit, get called out for spamming a lot? Seemed like a bit of a sensitive response there


@c4e5g3d5, could you answer 72 asking why spam is bad, been as you vote him for it after he asked, please

(I have my own thoughts as to why spamming bad but want to hear this first)
1. Played about 10 games on this site. Dozens of games on EpicMafia years ago. No games IRL. I enjoy all sorts of hidden role/identity games. I enjoy both deducing and bluffing.

2. No. You can easily have a read through my other games. Just click my name, then search user's topics or posts.
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:13 pm

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In post 26, hunterr wrote:
In post 21, AGamblingPig wrote:I hate to do this, but I have to VOTE: Hunter

Hunting is violent and I don't like violence.
If you're scum I expect a pacifist game then :)
If scum elect to no kill, we know who is scum :)
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:14 pm

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In post 34, Egix96 wrote:
In post 13, 72offsuit wrote:Why?
(...)
In post 17, 72offsuit wrote:to spam the thread?
Not only is it annoying, but perhaps more importantly, it wastes thread space and is generally just bad forum etiquette.
In post 19, 72offsuit wrote:
In post 12, Egix96 wrote:VOTE: 72offsuit

No need to spam the thread, we can already see you're here!
Y and W effectively function as vowels in Polish.
Close.
In post 24, Mizzytastic wrote:For everyone, what's your experience with mafia?
*Checks own page quickly*

I count about 40 games played on MS. That doesn't include any from other sites though.
Egix. I've played with you before. Do you actually think I'm a spammer?
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:37 pm

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In post 52, 72offsuit wrote:
In post 23, c4e5g3d5 wrote:It's pronounced "c4e5g3d5", hope that clears it up.
Please kindly get an avatar. It helps a lot with keeping a track of the thread when you are skimming though, by aiding in identifying others' posts at a glance
I guess this applied to me as well.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:51 pm

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I'm sorry if this is a stupid question but what does the text below the username mean?
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:59 pm

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In post 55, 72offsuit wrote:
In post 34, Egix96 wrote:
In post 13, 72offsuit wrote:Why?
(...)
In post 17, 72offsuit wrote:to spam the thread?
Not only is it annoying, but perhaps more importantly, it wastes thread space and is generally just bad forum etiquette.
In post 19, 72offsuit wrote:
In post 12, Egix96 wrote:VOTE: 72offsuit

No need to spam the thread, we can already see you're here!
Y and W effectively function as vowels in Polish.
Close.
In post 24, Mizzytastic wrote:For everyone, what's your experience with mafia?
*Checks own page quickly*

I count about 40 games played on MS. That doesn't include any from other sites though.
Egix. I've played with you before. Do you actually think I'm a spammer?
No, I don't remember you making needless posts in our prior games.
In post 57, cylstar wrote:I'm sorry if this is a stupid question but what does the text below the username mean?
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Indication of how many posts someone has.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:12 am

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In post 47, hunterr wrote:
In post 37, Mizzytastic wrote:
hunterr feels like he voted something he thought would be easy and other people were already expressing thoughts about. It's light but VOTE: hunterr
Because this is more important to address. I also don't play aggressive in RVS, but you said that you did. If someone is apathetic about the game I would expect someone that supposedly plays "aggressive" to target them.
You can address both at the same time though?

And I did target him, I questioned him, got responses, and came to a conclusion based on the tone of those responses, which I then shared.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:14 am

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In post 50, cylstar wrote:
In post 38, Mizzytastic wrote:@cylstar, any reason you decided not to vote?
it really is as simple as not being sure of how to vote.
VOTE: c4e5g3d5?
And the follow up is now you are voting, why are you voting there? Do you have any thoughts about what me and hunterr have had to say about c4?
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:26 am

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In post 53, 72offsuit wrote:2. No. You can easily have a read through my other games. Just click my name, then search user's topics or posts.
I did go and look at your games. I determined you post a lot and mentioned it in thread. Reading through to see if you've been called out for spamming is a lot more effort when I can just ask you? Plus I'd like to interact with you cos that's how sorting goes :P

Also if you'd read my own answer for experience you could probably have guessed that I could find out other peoples games even if you never reached the post where I said I had looked at yours.

This response kinda bugs me. It feels like you are brushing me off while being a "helpful SE" instead of actually engaging with what I was doing.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:27 am

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Plus if that response to being asked not to spam was just shitposting instead of actual frustration then I don't think it's +town any more.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:05 am

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In post 62, Mizzytastic wrote:Plus if that response to being asked not to spam was just shitposting instead of actual frustration then I don't think it's +town any more.
It was shitposting. I'm really not sure why you read it as frustration.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:06 am

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In post 61, Mizzytastic wrote:
In post 53, 72offsuit wrote:2. No. You can easily have a read through my other games. Just click my name, then search user's topics or posts.
I did go and look at your games. I determined you post a lot and mentioned it in thread. Reading through to see if you've been called out for spamming is a lot more effort when I can just ask you? Plus I'd like to interact with you cos that's how sorting goes :P

Also if you'd read my own answer for experience you could probably have guessed that I could find out other peoples games even if you never reached the post where I said I had looked at yours.

This response kinda bugs me. It feels like you are brushing me off while being a "helpful SE" instead of actually engaging with what I was doing.

And had i responded differently, in what way was your question designed to determine my alignment?
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:08 am

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In post 59, Mizzytastic wrote:
In post 47, hunterr wrote:
In post 37, Mizzytastic wrote:
hunterr feels like he voted something he thought would be easy and other people were already expressing thoughts about. It's light but VOTE: hunterr
Because this is more important to address. I also don't play aggressive in RVS, but you said that you did. If someone is apathetic about the game I would expect someone that supposedly plays "aggressive" to target them.
You can address both at the same time though?

And I did target him, I questioned him, got responses, and came to a conclusion based on the tone of those responses, which I then shared.
In post 60, Mizzytastic wrote:
In post 50, cylstar wrote:
In post 38, Mizzytastic wrote:@cylstar, any reason you decided not to vote?
it really is as simple as not being sure of how to vote.
VOTE: c4e5g3d5?
And the follow up is now you are voting, why are you voting there? Do you have any thoughts about what me and hunterr have had to say about c4?

There is something about this dual post that pings me.
The "and the follow up" phrasing makes me feel like your post was just an afterthought, rather than the goal of your posts.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:15 am

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I read it as frustration cos it was an in your face 'no u' sort of response, that I could imagine coming from someone who was sick of being told not to spam, which is the sort of thing I think scum is more likely to bottle up in order to get along.

And the point of my question was to determine if I was right in reading it as frustration, and to get you to say more on the subject so I could get more nuance on your tone. It's also just an in to further conversation that might help with sorting in the future - whether that's you sorting me, me sorting you or someone else looking at us. I think interaction between people is very important for creating sortable material, even if it doesn't help at the time.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:16 am

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I'm a recovering wallposter, I try to say stuff as I think of it to stop creating giant walls no one reads.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:17 am

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Feels quite LAMISTY overall too

VOTE: Mizzytastic
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:20 am

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I mean, yeah, it is. I did say why I try to do this as either alignment and the scum reason is LAMIST :wink:
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:23 am

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In post 57, cylstar wrote:I'm sorry if this is a stupid question but what does the text below the username mean?
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Those are generic titles based on how many posts you have on the site. Some players have custom ones that they've been nominated for.
Pathological liar with good intentions.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:19 am

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Trying to figure out if this whole hunterr Mizzy thing is AI at all. My best guess rn is townpoints for both but it's pretty weak.
In post 52, 72offsuit wrote:Please kindly get an avatar. It helps a lot with keeping a track of the thread when you are skimming though, by aiding in identifying others' posts at a glance
Ah thanks, hadn't considered that. Will do.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:28 am

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In post 68, 72offsuit wrote:Feels quite LAMISTY overall too

VOTE: Mizzytastic
Ew what reading LAMIST no.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:40 am

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In post 24, Mizzytastic wrote:A trio of questions.


For everyone, what's your experience with mafia?
I've played a ton of fm at sc2mafia. Played the custom starcraft 2 mafia mod like a thousand times.

We get pretty toxic at sc2mafia

how toxic do we get here at mafiascum?
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:46 am

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is anyone else not thrilled by the long form game? or is it just me?

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