In post 125, Noraa wrote: In post 122, nopointinactingup wrote:Nora, doing stupid things is fine but having un-genuine reactions when asked about said stupid things is pretty scummy. Also not sure why you're white-knighting Trendall here after a whole lot of fluff postings.
I'd like to take all the credit for moving us out of RVS thank you very much.
All jokes aside, I think I have fluffed but I also think I have posted lots of game advancing(even if only a little
) content
What game advancing contents are you talking about .. I've yet to seen you post anything substantial despite all the fluff and you haven't moved your vote at all from RVS.
There is nothing wrong with it except for the high likelihood that you made it up on the spot. At the very least it's a bit weird and defensive.
In post 128, Glitch wrote: In post 114, Trendall wrote:Unless they didn’t actually care and just wanted to cast suspicion on me, I guess.
Do you consider it AI to cast suspicion on players in the first 5 pages without any reason to suspect them?
Can you clarify AI? Sorry, old-fashioned player here.
Edit: Got it
In post 130, Hiraki wrote:
In post 103, nopointinactingup wrote:@Thoughts about shits and gigglez at the beginning: I'd keep a note to myself that the 3 participants is leaning town based on the conversation. I also think it's a townish sign to start the first wagon quickly since scum benefit from stalling the game. Noraa, Gitch, Plus can be town for now.
Weird.
In post 103, nopointinactingup wrote:This seems defensive. Keeping knowledge and even reads and opinions secret are bad for town and good for scum.
The post was clearly in jest - you even said it yourself - "thoughts about shits and gigglez". This is weak and weird.
Is there any particular aspect of it you find weak and weird? The logic of your post eludes me.
In post 130, Hiraki wrote:
Why is this important? What produces town to say that they like X part and scum to say they have Y part?
It's important because I am trying to gauge whether Trendall's vote on Glitch was because Trendall genuinely thought Glitch was scum or because he was trying to start an opportunistic counter wagon to save himself. When people sheep votes without adding to the evidence or thoughts behind their vote, it's generally not a town sign.
In post 132, Trendall wrote: In post 130, Hiraki wrote:Are you saying that you only random vote as scum? That would be a pretty lame way to play.
No, I've only drawn a mafia sided role on this site once. And in that game I never placed a random vote at the start of the game. Why would I ever do what you're suggesting?
Do you see my point Trendall? From my perspective, the only time you were scum you didn't place a random vote and in this game you didn't place a random vote PLUS making up a strange reason for not placing that vote.
In post 162, Glitch wrote: In post 103, nopointinactingup wrote:@Thoughts about shits and gigglez at the beginning: I'd keep a note to myself that the 3 participants is leaning town based on the conversation. I also think it's a townish sign to start the first wagon quickly since scum benefit from stalling the game. Noraa, Gitch, Plus can be town for now.
Now, as much as your pocket is enticing, I'm gonna have to pass.
What makes you think scum wouldn't participate in shits and gigglez early on? I do agree about the bob wagon though.
In my experience, scum usually stay behind the scene, stall the game and make town lynch randomly. That being said, I only think the shit and giggles are slight town sign not overwhelming.
In post 164, Glitch wrote: In post 103, nopointinactingup wrote:I feel that this is a little bit contrived.
It feels more like you thought of this reason when asked.
Have you done this in any of your previous town games?
Great point here; I hadn't really figured out how to put that into words but I think this is accurate. I'm just trying to sort between whether Trendall's play is newbish, playstyle, or AI.
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I don't think Trendall is new he has loads of games. It is fair to say that he does abstain from RV in a lot of his games as town and scum, so I don't see why he has to shut down as town when suspicion was thrown his way.
Edit: After reading through his wall of post, I suppose it is possible that Trendall was just a super defensive town player. Scum is slightly more likely to make things up under pressure but it would be an overstatement to say town never does this.
In post 176, Staarling wrote:If we're struggling to get serious stuff going, how about we get no one today and try on the next day? We'll have a night of information then to work things out
VOTE: Skip?
I don't think this is a good idea. If we lynch scum it's great. If we mislynch at the very least we have some information. NL is not good.
In post 207, Noraa wrote:But also, glitch, don't tunnel 9 pages in...
its just not a good idea imo and it feels bad being tunneled early on.
Isn't this the point though. Tunneling helps bring out emotions and thoughts that are difficult to hide. Then town can analyze them as a collective to distinguish between town and scum. I'm little bit harsh here but if you feel personally offended then mafia might not be a great game for you.
In post 227, Trendall wrote: In post 192, Glitch wrote:If he truly thought I were scum, he would engage me, ask me question, poke around, and then case me. But he doesn't.
So this is the crux of the problem for me, the guy's way of playing this game is going 'mafia act like this, and town act like this', and in reality people act in all different ways irrespective of their alignment due to personality styles and play styles and whatever else. So I know already, if I don't 'act right', he's going to think I'm mafia, and if I do make any attempt to 'act right' he'll accuse me of contriving reasons and so forth, he's completely inconsistent with what he wants from me. So I'm just stuck here, aren't I? There's nothing I can do about it other than hope that if I get lynched the other players in the game are capable of interpreting what's happened.
So did you make an attempt to "act right" when you made that post about not RV-ing to bring up discussion? Honestly I can think of ways you could have done that as town or scum so shutting down and refusing to communicate only cause people to suspect you more.
In post 230, Keita wrote: In post 222, derp wrote: In post 212, Keita wrote:Why does it feel like Trendall and Noraa are both scum?
If Trendall flips scum I would be inclined to vote Noraa next.
we can maybe be friends actually, could u elaborate on this?
It seems to me Noraa is trying really hard to strike a balance between deflecting the Trendall accusations without seeming like they are buddied. See post 198.
I agree with this. I think post 198 even indicate Nora scum even in the case Trendall is town. It's just very weird to white-knight someone as if you knew their alignment.
@Wall of text between Glitch and Trendall: This actually makes me feel a little better about Trendall since his post does seem emotionally coherent. For now I feel the trendall wagon has been productive.
UNVOTE: VOTE: Nora
Crimes include fluff posting, white-knighting for no reason and constant emotional appeal.
In post 298, Trendall wrote:Well, on my part it was just this relentless stream of excellent well argued points that could not more clearly have come from a town-sided player. I mean I'm sure for anybody reading it...it must have been like 'woah this guy couldn't be more town', and then I'd post another post and it'd be like 'shiiiit I didn't even know it was
possible
for a player to be that obviously aligned with the town, this is amazing, what a great player'.
Glitch was pretty towny too. I'm not sure whether he thinks I'm town or mafia at this point or how confident he is about anything, but he did unvote me because I guess he felt like he got everything he needed to from that avenue of inquiry for now.
So basically at this point you have a very strong town read on me and a fairly confident town read on Glitch too.
Then again this post feels super odd, like a gloat when you've managed to stave off pressure as scum.
In post 314, PlusJOYED wrote: In post 312, nopointinactingup wrote:This is a prod dodge. It seems like a lot of content has been generated, I'm taking a close look in 4 hours
13 pages in 3 days is rookie numbers. Last mini we had like a 150+ page day 1.
LOL xD What happened to the meta. In my days, people get lynched for posting random bs