@hessian No. I welcome a counterclaim, though. If somebody wants to come forward and tell me I'm lying, I'm willing to put my posts and votes up next to theirs. I'd prefer that not to happen while I am dead, however.
In post 294, hessian wrote:I'm not really convinced that Fredrick should be considered confirmed town.
I'm completely back to the drawing board right now and willing to consider that any of my reads could be wrong. When ORAM replaced in we had very similar takes on the game.
Why him and not me for the nightkill? If I recall, we basically had one difference in opinion. Re-reading.
Not to be too self-centered, but... I feel like it could be an attempt to set me up, given that ORAM said he felt uneasy about me, and I also said I didn't know how to feel about ORAM given his case against Gawr/ wiyvern.
I also feel like the Trendall kill could have been an attempt to set me up given our ""conflict"" on D1.
Which would make me suspicious of anyone who tried to emphasize the "hessian vs Trendall" angle. IIRC, that's mostly been donkihott? I know Satisfaction mentioned it at the beginning of his D2 post. Don't remember any other instances off the top of my head.
I'll be re-reading Satisfaction/ Olivia/ ORAM's posts tonight to see if there's any other possible crumbs in there... either Satisfaction crumbing a different role, or Olivia/ ORAM crumbing a different fellow mason. But given the nature of bread crumbs, failure to find other crumbs is not in and of itself strong evidence for Satisfaction's claim.
Honestly, you don't have to burn time on verifying me like that. Think about it. We know there must be another mason. I didn't want to reveal now, but I think I'm in danger of being sniped which will blow our last miselim. If my claim is fake, the supposedly real mason would have no reason not to counterclaim me. In this situation you basically just assume I'm telling the truth unless there's a counterclaim because lying here is game-losing for me.
Tay's argument with Mark was kind of the biggest one. So it is between fred and hessian for me now.
I thought I had a way to clear hessian but unfortunately it is unreliable. Her "last online" status was showing 27 october a couple hours ago but now when she is posting it says 28 october so I don't know if it is broken or I'm interpreting it wrong.
Btw Satisfaction you made my day. I think you expected too much in a newbie game haha. For defending your role against a counterclaim would've been sickkk.
I am 99.99% sure you are the mason though, it is nearly impossible to know both the setup and the other mason that early in the game.
In post 305, donkihott wrote:
I thought I had a way to clear hessian but unfortunately it is unreliable. Her "last online" status was showing 27 october a couple hours ago but now when she is posting it says 28 october so I don't know if it is broken or I'm interpreting it wrong.
I think there's an option to hide your online status when you log in? I assume it will affect the "last online" status, specifically so this type of check can't be done.
In post 304, Satisfaction wrote:Honestly, you don't have to burn time on verifying me like that. Think about it. We know there must be another mason. I didn't want to reveal now, but I think I'm in danger of being sniped which will blow our last miselim. If my claim is fake, the supposedly real mason would have no reason not to counterclaim me. In this situation you basically just assume I'm telling the truth unless there's a counterclaim because lying here is game-losing for me.
Okay, fair enough. We'll just have to wait for Tayl0r to get here, then.
I am resetting my thinking of who is and is not spewed town and I will be rebuilding that from scratch. I'm still not convinced donkihott is scum, so I must reevaluate.
Fred and Tay came out of the gate swinging today, bringing naked votes. A fast Day 3 is bad for town here. Being first or second on a miselim wagon on low hanging fruit like donkihott seems like a position scum would want to be in right now.
I know this is long shot, but... just to float the idea: could Mark have been playing a gambit where his goal from the beginning was to sacrifice himself to towncred his partner?
As I typed that, I lost faith in it more and more. It's possible, but it seems so much more likely that the answer is simpler.
The reason it seems super unlikely to me is that they couldn't have known that we didn't have a PR that could stumble into the one remaining scum. It would be such a low percentage play on the scum team's part.
In post 313, Satisfaction wrote:@donkihott: is there a single towniest thing you think you've done in the game? What is it?
I cold-bloodedly hanged Mark. And how good of an actor a newbie do you think can be? Its just not relevant anymore to suspect me I'm clear as a water drop.
In post 317, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:Still think it is unlikely that Tayl0r Swift pushed her scum partner that hard on day 1.
Who do you think it is then?
In post 318, Satisfaction wrote:I know this is long shot, but... just to float the idea: could Mark have been playing a gambit where his goal from the beginning was to sacrifice himself to towncred his partner?
No, I was speaking generally about anybody who he clashed with. I was trying to figure out how much weight we should give to analysis based on Mark's "reads."
im pretty sure we cleared fred yesterday right? based on interactions. i was down to hessian and donki. now im still at hessian and donki, but im feeling donki.
Tay's argument with Mark was kind of the biggest one. So it is between fred and hessian for me now.
I thought I had a way to clear hessian but unfortunately it is unreliable. Her "last online" status was showing 27 october a couple hours ago but now when she is posting it says 28 october so I don't know if it is broken or I'm interpreting it wrong.
Btw Satisfaction you made my day. I think you expected too much in a newbie game haha. For defending your role against a counterclaim would've been sickkk.
I am 99.99% sure you are the mason though, it is nearly impossible to know both the setup and the other mason that early in the game.
this feels fake. especially the thing about believing the mason claim.
To be a rock and not to roll
