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Post Post #1050 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:07 am

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Hello Penguin, I see you there, guess what I’ve got for you?

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Post Post #1051 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:08 am

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Once, a long long time ago, when you were still a glimmer in your father's eye, I had mercy on a player who brought up a detailed personal sob story. This player is still on the site. The story was completely false, and the player was scum. She argue that as scum, you use anything you can to your advantage.

Then I started to notice that players that talk about out-of-game topics, bring up sad excuses etc., definitely lean scum and I always give them flak.
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Post Post #1052 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:14 am

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I don’t disagree that making excuses for not posting is scummy, but it also depends a lot on what I think of the person and what said excuse is.

“I’ve been really busy will get to this soon” — generic excuse, has time to come to thread but not giving reads, ++scum

“I think I have a serious illness that can be life threatening in the middle of a global pandemic” — I don’t think lilith is the type of person who tells a lie of this magnitude to a bunch of people who care about her and will be worried about her RL well-being just to win a mafiagame +NAI

I’m not denying some people would lie about that sort of thing. I’ve definitely heard of cases where people have treated the game as “anything is morally justified within the bounds of mafia” and there’s certainly a couple of players I won’t name who I would not give even the slightest pass based on claims about IRL, either bc they’ve shown that they’ll lie for advantage about serious things, or because they themselves insist on being inhumane towards other players using the “it’s a game” justification. I don’t think lilith is that way at all based on the various interactions and games I’ve played with her in over the last few months
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Post Post #1053 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:14 am

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In post 1035, Menalque wrote:Also there’s one player here who’s like, intensely scummy and hasn’t been pressured at all lmao
dear jesus, is it me
In post 1037, Menalque wrote:Oh, and anyone who knows pine should know this is an obvtown slot
what i know about pine is i got him eliminated once long ago when i was scum and he was obvtown. also had a kinda trash scumgame but that was also forever ago so i assume no longer true
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Post Post #1054 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:14 am

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So: she gets a pass for today, and if she doesn’t pick it up soon/once recovered then I’ll flip her
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Post Post #1055 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:15 am

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In post 1053, petapan wrote:dear jesus, is it me
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No
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Post Post #1056 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:17 am

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In post 1053, petapan wrote:what i know about pine is i got him eliminated once long ago when i was scum and he was obvtown. also had a kinda trash scumgame but that was also forever ago so i assume no longer true
Pine now has a notoriously good scumgame and is actively more enthusiastic when rolling scum (although he can strategically lurk). It’s ++town for me that he let himself be replaced instead of hitting the minimum activity requirements, which is something he could definitely have done if he was scum and lurking intentionally instead of bc he just wasn’t engaged as town
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Post Post #1057 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:30 am

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it's so funny that you're talking about your own slot, one that you got the role pm for, as "++town for you"
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Post Post #1058 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:32 am

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In post 1055, Menalque wrote:
In post 1053, petapan wrote:dear jesus, is it me
*shakes head gently*

No
okay is it dunnstral
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Post Post #1059 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:32 am

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In post 1031, the worst wrote:
Menalque replaces Pine
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Post Post #1060 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:33 am

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In post 1058, petapan wrote:
In post 1055, Menalque wrote:
In post 1053, petapan wrote:dear jesus, is it me
*shakes head gently*

No
okay is it dunnstral
It’s not him either
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Post Post #1061 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:34 am

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In post 1049, Menalque wrote:S_S why are you still not voting?
Because we still have plenty of time and it doesn't seem like discussion is remotely done.
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Post Post #1062 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:34 am

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In post 1057, TheGoldenParadox wrote:it's so funny that you're talking about your own slot, one that you got the role pm for, as "++town for you"
"
It’s not any less true tho :P
In post 1059, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1031, the worst wrote:
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Post Post #1063 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:35 am

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Who would you vote for?

Also, wanna take a stab at my super secret scumread?
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Post Post #1064 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:35 am

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In post 1051, DrippingGoofball wrote:Once, a long long time ago, when you were still a glimmer in your father's eye, I had mercy on a player who brought up a detailed personal sob story. This player is still on the site. The story was completely false, and the player was scum. She argue that as scum, you use anything you can to your advantage.
And since then, the site meta has shifted to where that is no longer acceptable and this person would probably get quite a negative reception for doing this today.
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Post Post #1065 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:37 am

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In post 1063, Menalque wrote:Who would you vote for?
I'm ambivalent between DGB and Hoopla.
Also, wanna take a stab at my super secret scumread?
Nope!
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Post Post #1066 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:38 am

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@Menalque
I have been at times busy (this game for example, I had a publishing deadline to respect) but once my timetable cleared up, I fulfilled my obligations.
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Post Post #1067 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:40 am

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I will take you at your word re:Lilith.
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Post Post #1068 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:41 am

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How come?
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Post Post #1069 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:41 am

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In post 1066, DrippingGoofball wrote:@Menalque
I have been at times busy (this game for example, I had a publishing deadline to respect) but once my timetable cleared up, I fulfilled my obligations.
You seem to have correctly intuited that this is, indeed, part of the reason why I think you’re likely to be scum!
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Post Post #1070 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:42 am

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In post 1065, Something_Smart wrote:I'm ambivalent between DGB and Hoopla.
Why hoopla?
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Post Post #1071 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:42 am

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I don't see why I should be able to predict the reads of someone who just entered the game with better than random accuracy (assuming as you have already stated that they are not just consensus).
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Post Post #1072 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:42 am

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In post 1064, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1051, DrippingGoofball wrote:Once, a long long time ago, when you were still a glimmer in your father's eye, I had mercy on a player who brought up a detailed personal sob story. This player is still on the site. The story was completely false, and the player was scum. She argue that as scum, you use anything you can to your advantage.
And since then, the site meta has shifted to where that is no longer acceptable and this person would probably get quite a negative reception for doing this today.
There was a negative reaction back then, too.

I am still soured. I have mafia personal sob story PTSD!
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Post Post #1073 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:43 am

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In post 1070, Menalque wrote:Why hoopla?
Because she's got a wagon?
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Post Post #1074 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:45 am

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In post 1071, Something_Smart wrote:I don't see why I should be able to predict the reads of someone who just entered the game with better than random accuracy (assuming as you have already stated that they are not just consensus).
But that’s not really what I’m asking, what I’m really asking is “who do you think could be a slot I think is so scummy as to term it “obvscum” but that hasn’t seen pressure yet?”
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