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[Gamma Emerald]

I could be amenable to that, I think Mark's way of approaching NM vs. geraint feels a bit sketchy, as I said I think it's off to pick based on who you trust on a wagon, because bussing is possible, and I also think the way the rest of the geraint wagon got handwaved is suspect.

[DkKoba]

mark panicking bc theyre scum pr and attracted attention that they werent expecting

[Marky Mark]

my vote on NM is literally just a votepark tho??? Like you should probably check the reasoning for the vote over if you trust who is voting. Or, even better, use both at once.

So let's be clear here - the primary reason for me being happy with the elim is that both slots are willfully low-info and represent a risk to the town. Of the two, I think N_M is a better candidate for an elim as my main suspect (DGB) isn't voting them but someone I am TRing (you) is.

Agreed your N_M vote may have been a votepark, but clearly you were comfortable enough with the idea of a wagon on that slot to vote them, even in a parking capacity.

[Infinity 324]

Daily news report: Mark is town. Gerain and n_m have barely done anything AI. Koba is being too scummy to be scum.

UNVOTE:

[Gamma Emerald]

could I not be scum who is trying to weight the pressure towards NM? Like yeah that's a good reason to expect me and NM aren't scum partners, but not reason to trust me and sus NM.

Why do you distrust DGB, btw? I get that maybe she hasn't posted a lot but her posts seem to have good content. Is there something in that content you find scummy?

[DkKoba]

Daily news report: Mark is town. Gerain and n_m have barely done anything AI. Koba is being too scummy to be scum.

UNVOTE:

OK thanks for claiming as one of mark's partners<3 . <3

[Infinity 324]

Gamma can you catch up and give your thoughts when possible, I’m really losing interest in this game.

[DkKoba]

we can fix that by putting u into the graveyard

[Gamma Emerald]

soon probably
I thought I'd have a lot more to deal with after ghosting for an entire day but I got lucky it seems

[Marky Mark]

i think u dont know what actual scumtells are @mark.

or ur purposefully avoiding reading previous games so u can keep pretending it is a scumtell for me

if u think im gonna sit here and let dumb theories be peddled ill be damned.

Imma be real with u that my townread on u has weakened significantly. And with ur scummy choice to vote sit on a slot that u are misrepping, i cant keep that to myself anymore.

I mean you have objectively been inconsistent in this game (eg 909- you are very welcome to respond to the question I have asked you on this twice btw) and have sought to discredit people. I have not looked at your meta in any great depth tbqh but I find it difficult to see how this could come from a place of being town.

wait mark is uborinically trying to push nm lmao.

ok theyre actually openscumming now VOTE: mark

I mean I've been fairly open about favouring a low-activity slot in many of my previous posts. Do you have issue with N_M in particular?

mark panicking bc theyre scum pr and attracted attention that they werent expecting

LOL - I will give you the benefit of the doubt that this is a reaction test. If this is meant at face value, it's a massive reach

I could be amenable to that, I think Mark's way of approaching NM vs. geraint feels a bit sketchy, as I said I think it's off to pick based on who you trust on a wagon, because bussing is possible, and I also think the way the rest of the geraint wagon got handwaved is suspect.

bussing is possible on the geraint wagon for sure but that was my assessment on the balance of probability. The other two players on the geraint wagon are nullish for me, so if there's a choice between two functinally very similar slots, one of whom is being voted for by a TR and the other has two nulls and a SR then it seems logical to me to pick the former

[Infinity 324]

Koba I get that this game is confusing but your pressure is a lot less effective when you threaten to get literally half the playerlist limmed.

[Infinity 324]

LHF = low hanging fruit by the way.

[Gamma Emerald]

mark might be genuine, but he's on my list for now

[VP Baltar]

More generally, I am concerned about the general gamestate of having 4 lurker and/or low-info slots atm (N_M, Geraint, DGB, Zedenek). This is all conjecture so take it with a pinch of salt but I could definitely see 1 or even 2 scum coasting in that bracket, which makes me a bit twitchy about pushing for an elim on an active player at this point

Lol wasn't this the point you were trying to use to call me scummy? Saying I was going after the lurkers.

Glad you've come around to the correct point of view.

[Marky Mark]

could I not be scum who is trying to weight the pressure towards NM? Like yeah that's a good reason to expect me and NM aren't scum partners, but not reason to trust me and sus NM.

Why do you distrust DGB, btw? I get that maybe she hasn't posted a lot but her posts seem to have good content. Is there something in that content you find scummy?

Yeah, it is ofc possible you two are partners. I don't see a massive amount to choose between N_M and geraint based on the content of their posts, so I've made a judgement call based on the balance of probability. Of course any of these hypothetical scenarios you suggest could potensh be true (and a bus is a realistic thing that could happen), but feels like a bit of a reach to imply my agreeability to elim somone is sketch because I could be wrong in some scenarios. The converse logic could just as equally be applied to those favouring geraint

Re DGB:
The initial vote on her back on Tues was for coasting and lack of scrutiny, since then this has evolved. She is still coasting as mentioned above, in addition, I found the disparity in her readslist on N_M and geraint to be really off, which she still hasn't explained, and things like 356 1162 felt like her trying to look town. As I've mentioned above, I find her off and it feels like willful coasting.

[Marky Mark]

More generally, I am concerned about the general gamestate of having 4 lurker and/or low-info slots atm (N_M, Geraint, DGB, Zedenek). This is all conjecture so take it with a pinch of salt but I could definitely see 1 or even 2 scum coasting in that bracket, which makes me a bit twitchy about pushing for an elim on an active player at this point

Lol wasn't this the point you were trying to use to call me scummy? Saying I was going after the lurkers.

Glad you've come around to the correct point of view.

Point of order - I wasn't calling you scummy. To quote earlier!me:

Timely cross-post with VP's 1300 -> VP suggesting infinity's reads are broad and uncontroversial, while I am making a similar case on VP

I have also previously voted Geraint (before I did more homework on his previous games) and am voting DGB so I'm totally doing this as well - I'm not saying its bad or wrong, especially when it comes to pressuring low info slots, it just makes it harder to sort people

I have been on board with running up a low-info slot for a while. I was just saying that it's hard to sort you (or anyone tbh) who has been focussed on pushing low-activity slots as it's a generally sensible thing to do and unlikely to invite any controvosy, so it makes sense to do from either alignment

[DkKoba]

me, not reading marks long bs posts anymore

[Flavor Leaf]

Man, Infinity just piggybacking on everything this game. Like, I'm lean towning Marky as well, but the way you say it just looks like scum pocketing left and right, but would scum really be like that? And they call Kkoba too scummy to be scum, which is effectively placing a town read there.

Infinity, who do you see as scum?

[Flavor Leaf]

Gamma can you catch up and give your thoughts when possible, I’m really losing interest in this game.

"gamma, can you post and let me take credit for fueling your next string of posts."'

[Infinity 324]

I don't have scumreads atm, I have a PoE

[Flavor Leaf]

I don't even think Gamma's behind. Nobody was here the time they were missing really except like a page. Infinity just further went into the narrative that current Gamma is outdated, which I believe is not true.

[Flavor Leaf]

I don't have scumreads atm, I have a PoE

another way to excuse yourself from blame if a townie from your POE flips.

[Flavor Leaf]

you wanna get something going.

VOTE: Infinity

I think you're posturing, and actively fueling fire for people to get a misfade for you.

[Infinity 324]

JV, gamma slot, VP, and mark are town. Getting townvibes from taylor, DGB, flavor. I said koba is too scummy to be scum but really I just have no idea how to read them.

[Marky Mark]

me, not reading marks long bs posts anymore

That's rude and there's no need for that tone :S

So I've asked you multiple times to explain your inconsistent behaviour in 909, you've deflected this and instead flung a bunch of accusations my way. When I've worked through and responded to them methodically you now decide to discredit them by saying they are too long to read. I hope you can see how this massively constructive for anyone involved.

--Side note, I am totally open to constructive feedback if people are finding posting style/length/etc difficult to digest, but let's please treat each other with respect