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[DrippingGoofball]

already said i scumread Infinity taylor and mark most rn

:goodreads:

[Almost50]

hi flavor give me a good reason not to yeet u

He's FLAVOR LEAF! Isn't that a good enough reason to give him a day or two??

imma lurk out to day 3 and solve, cool with everyone?

SHIT!

Why offense? I just told you I think you're town.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You never cease to amaze!

soo gamma, wanna do an infinity wagon? VOTE: infinity

Why would anyone want a never ending wagon??

scummy: infin, geraint, JV, andre

Would it bother you if I asked why JV & andre?

[Infinity 324]

Ok I don't think everyone who has bad read progressions on me are all scum (andres, VP, koba). I think it's just cause I got lazy.

[VP Baltar]

So I take it that you're a "win >> having fun" kind of guy? How serious do you take the game from a winning PoV?

Good question (not regarding alignment, but moreso from a theory perspective). I believe the game is most fun when everyone is playing to win. People are more invested and play to the best of their abilities when the desired outcome is victory.

However, I don't side with people who want to win at all costs, ie dirty tricks or being overly mean as a strategy. That's bad sportsmanship.

Everyone can obviously play in a way that is enjoyable for them, but that's just my perspective on what makes a good game whether you win or lose in the end.

[DkKoba]

i agree with that but my line is at gaslighting basically. hate when ppl just start blatantly lying to your face abt things u did just to win. i.e. stuff that can be proven within the same thread.

[Tayl0r Swift]

my perspective is that fun and winning are only meaningful if VP Baltar is dead.

[Almost50]

u just reminded me that zdenek is in this game

Not anymore

Cleared my sig because I felt like site meta didn’t require it, most people agree with it anyway I think

What did it say? Refresh my 52 y.o. memory

what did your sig say?

Great minds think alike. Beyonce still had one of the best videos of all time though.

oh yep me and my top scumread are for sure buddy buddy

There's this thing called

social

distancing. It decreases the chances of you

catching Covid-19

being associated with a partner in case either of you flipped.

are ppl finally seeing the light of taylor!scum?

I thought scum were associated with the DARK

Bad logic is not scummy, reads that disagree from yours are or scummy, “ignoring”/missing posts are not scummy, contradictions are not scummy, scumslips often come from town

I take back my earlier question. I don't wanna know.

[VP Baltar]

my perspective is that fun and winning are only meaningful if VP Baltar is dead.

Lol slipping with them NKs as a strategy. Fascinating

[DkKoba]

my perspective is that fun and winning are only meaningful if VP Baltar is dead.

Lol slipping with them NKs as a strategy. Fascinating

dont worry, bulletproof ascetic doc here. im gonna save u

[VP Baltar]

My hero

[VP Baltar]

I'm gonna be signing off soon. Taylor, where are you going to vote? Infinity or gerain?

They are essentially tied and we need to move in a direction. I can't see a gamma yeet happening

[Tayl0r Swift]

oof thats too much pressure. i think id go for gerain cuz infinity is playing and i kinda ish think inifinity could be town atm.

[Tayl0r Swift]

but if i VOTE: dkkoba thats L-2 i think

[Marky Mark]

Evening all

We are getting reasonably close to deadline and I like the fact that VPB is actively trying to facilitate finding a consensus so that we don't rush the elim and make a sub-optimal play (eg his 1756). This is all in the interests of the town, so points to him for that. I am less keen on his using this to try and steer people toward the infinity wagon (eg in 1837), which feels like one of the more controversial wagons of those currently having traction and not one that I would have said feels like it has the most consensus.

Could see DGB as scum actually, lots of consensus votes and no one pressuring her.

This is what I have been saying for a fair while now and have not heard a compelling argument to the converse. She is a capable player who is clearly coasting and has deflected off reasonable questions rather than answer them (eg her read disparity on N_M/Geraint). I think we are letting her get away with far too much here, but I am also starting to doubt myself on this slot as I seem to be pretty alone in this POV.

@infinity - when you say you get townpings off geraint's posts in 1752, is it anything in particular? I would prefer N_M as an elim candidate if we are going to go after a low-activity slot (as explained earlier), but would accept Geraint if that was the only way of finding consensus as a town

[Marky Mark]

oof thats too much pressure. i think id go for gerain cuz infinity is playing and i kinda ish think inifinity could be town atm.

This is on the money in general terms, although I'd take it a step further and say if geraint, then why not N_M?

[Tayl0r Swift]

oof thats too much pressure. i think id go for gerain cuz infinity is playing and i kinda ish think inifinity could be town atm.

This is on the money in general terms, although I'd take it a step further and say if geraint, then why not N_M?

well i can think of one reason for not going for NM

[Marky Mark]

this is such a fluffed up bs post LMFAO
I dont do meta defense. If u dont care enough to read my previous games thats bc u are nkt trying to actually read my alignment.

The thing is, you're kinda half right here, I definitely agree that putting in the effort to do detective work is townish as scum have no need to try and work out people's alignments. I do actually care about sorting you and that's why I've been scrutinizing your actions this game and asking you questions to try and further understand your motivations, which repeatedly refuse to answer.

Fwiw, I don't just blindly think you're scum because you have a different posting style to me. I'm actually trying to get a quality read on your slot and work you out here. I've looked at some previous games for N_M and Geraint as there was little to go off in this one, but I hope you'll forgive me for not having the time to thoroughly research every slot's game history, which is why I invited you to put some points across on why you think I'm reading you wrong.

[Marky Mark]

oof thats too much pressure. i think id go for gerain cuz infinity is playing and i kinda ish think inifinity could be town atm.

This is on the money in general terms, although I'd take it a step further and say if geraint, then why not N_M?

well i can think of one reason for not going for NM

Pray tell?

[Marky Mark]

oof thats too much pressure. i think id go for gerain cuz infinity is playing and i kinda ish think inifinity could be town atm.

This is on the money in general terms, although I'd take it a step further and say if geraint, then why not N_M?

well i can think of one reason for not going for NM

Pray tell?

[VP Baltar]

I am less keen on his using this to try and steer people toward the infinity wagon (eg in 1837), which feels like one of the more controversial wagons of those currently having traction and not one that I would have said feels like it has the most consensus.

Idk. I've been trying to get Gerain for most of the day, and people won't get on board. Either I'm way off base or I'm trying to convince scum to vote their buddies. I've repeatedly said infinity isn't my ideal choice for the day, but I'll compromise there if that's the preference. I think more people have expressed interest in infinity overall at various points than gerain.

If you'd vote gerain and infinity does, then we are really talking.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Pray tell?

nope. its in the thread though

[DrippingGoofball]

I

could

vote for infinity but that's stretching it for me. I'll do it because I'm a team player.

[DrippingGoofball]

Is there a case from his recent behavior?

[Marky Mark]

If you'd vote gerain and infinity does, then we are really talking.

I will keep an eye on this. I've got a day off tomorrow so will have time to go over stuff and work to find a consensus choice if needed.

Speaking of preferred choices though:

i agree with that but my line is at gaslighting basically. hate when ppl just start blatantly lying to your face abt things u did just to win. i.e. stuff that can be proven within the same thread.

With your post in mind, can you see how it can be fairly frustrating to try and work with you when you throw out accusations about other players without any justification and then refuse to explain them when questioned. Ironically, one of said accusations was actually about gaslighting too.

We've touched on the meta side of things above but I think it's also important to apply some first principles in terms of objective behaviours within the scope of this game. You have consistently not acted in the interests of the town today in terms of discrediting, throwing out unsubstantiated accusations, and refusing to engage in meaningful discussion on any of the above. I find it really hard to see how these are coming from a place of being town

[Marky Mark]

Another thing that stuck out to me when flicking back through:

VOTE: DkKoba

Obvscum

people will literally do anything to avoid using facts to update tbeir reads bc they dont want to admit they are wrong and this game is just more proof of it

i think u dont know what actual scumtells are @mark.

or ur purposefully avoiding reading previous games so u can keep pretending it is a scumtell for me

if u think im gonna sit here and let dumb theories be peddled ill be damned.

Imma be real with u that my townread on u has weakened significantly. And with ur scummy choice to vote sit on a slot that u are misrepping, i cant keep that to myself anymore.

I've pointed out several times how your behaviors have objectively not been in the interests of the town - I'd love for you to respond to my questions and provide a logical/objective defence, instead of which you tell me my scumreads are invalid because I don't know tells for you based on previous games. I feel like I've largely dealt in facts here rather than tone/flavour reasons for voting you but you keep moving the goalposts on what you consider a legitamte reason to suspect someone