Mini Theme 2172: Great Idea Mafia - Game Over

[Iconeum]

We started massclaim, we are finishing it

[Iconeum]

There's no point in doing this unless intention is to go all the way trhu

[MURDERCAT]

echo is the only one left though, if we feel like we have enough info to elim scum shouldn't we just do that? Benefit is I might be more likely to live to tomorrow.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Can we get a list of a claims/NA

[NoPowerOverMe]

all

[iamausername]

yeah, Herta is absolutely the play today, but given that Echo falls into the category of reasonably likely to be scum through PoE, i'd rather we got a claim out of him today.

[MURDERCAT]

mm ok claim echo

[MURDERCAT]

Alive

Herta - Roleblocker (targeted redcardinal * 2)
iamausername - VT
Primate - Survivor
Iconeum - Retired marine (can't be killed by SK)
MURDERCAT - Roleblocker (NPOM N1, username N2)
NoPowerOverMe - Gravedigger
EchoVision - ?

Dead

ItalianoVD - Mafia Goon
Titus - Vanilla Townie
Noraa - Vanilla Townie
PlusJOYED - Town Hero
redcardinal - Town Mason
Rannygazoo - Town Innocent Child

[NoPowerOverMe]

Fine,

VOTE: Herta

[MURDERCAT]

No more votes on Herta now please, we are E-2

[Primate]

I get what echovision is saying but I think it's they should probably claim. It's just less risky if it backfires tomorrow when they claim something not that impressive.

I think herta's claim targets are weird. My concern is that we sped through yesterday, with a default lynch, and now Herta seems pushed. IDK.

Murdercat's claim specifically is great for Username and NPOM. It does set up a potential NPOM-Murdercat pair, but hey. Murdercat is probably town after he counterclaimed before the mod confirmed that there could be the same role rolled multiple times though.

Now I mostly want to see why Herta targeted Redcardinal.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I don't pair with murderers

[EchoVision]

yuh yuh yuh i’m a town doc
i hit up murder both nights because i wanted to keep murder alive past d1 and murders a strong town player

[MURDERCAT]

I'm inclined to believe this because otherwise echo is just dead if I die tonight?

What's our worst case right now? Probably 1 mafia and 2 werewolf? Let's say we hit the mafia today and 2 werewolves are left, we go to 5:2 (primate) and town is still alive? Is there a worse case than that where we are dead even if we hit today?

[MURDERCAT]

Alive

Herta - Roleblocker (targeted redcardinal * 2)
iamausername - VT
Primate - Survivor
Iconeum - Retired marine (can't be killed by SK)
MURDERCAT - Roleblocker (NPOM N1, username N2)
NoPowerOverMe - Gravedigger
EchoVision - Doc (targeted MC *2)

Dead

ItalianoVD - Mafia Goon
Titus - Vanilla Townie
Noraa - Vanilla Townie
PlusJOYED - Town Hero
redcardinal - Town Mason
Rannygazoo - Town Innocent Child

[MURDERCAT]

I'm just going to put this out there, survivor is a claim that SK might make. I don't think we go primate until after the other faction is dead, but I just wanted to make sure I said that at some point.

[EchoVision]

I'm inclined to believe this because otherwise echo is just dead if I die tonight?

What's our worst case right now? Probably 1 mafia and 2 werewolf? Let's say we hit the mafia today and 2 werewolves are left, we go to 5:2 (primate) and town is still alive? Is there a worse case than that where we are dead even if we hit today?

tonight it’s either you or me dead and it’s up to me to decide
yikes
i think i’m dead by the end of tomorrow regardless to be honest

[MURDERCAT]

Uh you probably can't self target

[NoPowerOverMe]

I already said that we don't want the survivor in ello and that's why we should elim him today.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Even if it give scum an extra nightkill it's worth it in the long run.

[NoPowerOverMe]

There's a chance he's a serial killer it's an extra bonus.

[MURDERCAT]

I already said that we don't want the survivor in ello and that's why we should elim him today.

But why? Primate can win with us even if we don't elim there

[NoPowerOverMe]

Because he's not trustworthy

[NoPowerOverMe]

He could vote with mafia in ello.

[MURDERCAT]

I feel confident enough about herta