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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:50 am

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Discussion Re: scumread of cyl even though I disagree, also feels quite balanced and considered
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:00 am

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Muh
Low-hanging fruit town

123 - On re-read of the game, I think !scumMuh would try to appease town questioning him, rather than refuse.
His uncooperative attitude reminds me of Worcestshire in Newbie 2015.

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=83462&user_select[]=34514

His refusal to answer in 137 reads like suspicious, guarded town.

Muh's reposting of the same question towards me twice

The severe inactivity at end of day also SCREAMS town vs town wagons,
whereby scum doesnt have to make moves as they already have a miskick secured

More likely to be scum than cyl, though unlikely.
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:02 am

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JDye - still scum for reasons posted yesterday. Its midnight here, cbf reposting at this stage.
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:03 am

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VOTE: JDye
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:03 am

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Will continue ISOs tomorrow
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:41 am

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In post 423, 72offsuit wrote:
In post 392, Mizzytastic wrote:Egix is the sort of player I find super frustrating to read. I know this is in his town range from another game, I know that he gets pressure for it (up to and including leading wagon - can't remember if he got miselimed that game) as town and considering 40ish games played probably isn't changing any time soon. I also understand why he get seen as scummy and that scum can benefit from his playstyle. I guess he's just a good case of why what you are looking for with scumhunting is intent.

Don't really have any good ideas though, just frustration
Yes, have personally benefitted as scum previosuuly from !townegix.
Where? Iirc, in that other Newbie game you didn't replace in until after I was already dead.

There is also the Normal game where I was friendly neighbour but I doubt that one's relevant.
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:42 am

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In post 426, 72offsuit wrote:Muh
Low-hanging fruit town

123 - On re-read of the game, I think !scumMuh would try to appease town questioning him, rather than refuse.
His uncooperative attitude reminds me of Worcestshire in Newbie 2015.

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=83462&user_select[]=34514

His refusal to answer in 137 reads like suspicious, guarded town.

Muh's reposting of the same question towards me twice

The severe inactivity at end of day also SCREAMS town vs town wagons,
whereby scum doesnt have to make moves as they already have a miskick secured

More likely to be scum than cyl, though unlikely.
Also this last line is a big thonk.
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:14 am

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Vote Count 2.3
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Sulfur, 16S
— reactive nonmetal, standard atomic weight 32.060, group 16, period 3, p-block


cylstar
(2): ,
Egix96
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muh316
(1):
JDye
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Not voting
(3): JDye, Mizzytastic, cylstar

With 8 alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

Deadline:
(expired on 2020-11-15 02:50:00)
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:17 am

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JDye and c4e5g3d5 were prodded.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:10 am

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In post 414, safebet222 wrote:and with 2 hours to spare and nobody even hanging around half the time, who was I going to convince?
I concede, that's a valid point.
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:11 am

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In post 415, safebet222 wrote:And just because you self hammered 10 years ago, that makes you town now?
That was just me poking fun of 13 year old muh316.
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:30 am

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In post 435, muh316 wrote:
In post 415, safebet222 wrote:And just because you self hammered 10 years ago, that makes you town now?
That was just me poking fun of 13 year old muh316.
13! :eek: I was 13 nine years before the first game of forum mafia was played... Plus I was more into riding bikes and playing ball... Videogames and maybe had my first crush by then... Certainly not this devious little game.
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:32 am

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In post 367, c4e5g3d5 wrote:In the meantime, I'm still trying to figure out if DADV applies to muh. In case it does, VOTE: Egix96 is next on my list.
You never really explained why you voted Egix. I can't find anything in your ISO to explain why you would vote Egix.
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:34 am

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In post 436, safebet222 wrote:13! I was 13 nine years before the first game of forum mafia was played... Plus I was more into riding bikes and playing ball... Videogames and maybe had my first crush by then... Certainly not this devious little game.
Yes, I was introduced to the internet at a quite young age.
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:15 pm

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Okay time to switch gears... This game is so dead... Muh you're still on my scumlist...
In post 431, Egix96 wrote:
In post 426, 72offsuit wrote:Muh
Low-hanging fruit town

123 - On re-read of the game, I think !scumMuh would try to appease town questioning him, rather than refuse.
His uncooperative attitude reminds me of Worcestshire in Newbie 2015.

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=83462&user_select[]=34514

His refusal to answer in 137 reads like suspicious, guarded town.

Muh's reposting of the same question towards me twice

The severe inactivity at end of day also SCREAMS town vs town wagons,
whereby scum doesnt have to make moves as they already have a miskick secured

More likely to be scum than cyl, though unlikely.
Also this last line is a big thonk.
@egix... Tell me more...72 never left my scumlist. Lets discuss.
In post 384, Egix96 wrote:
72off - his push on JDye felt ungenuine because I think that JD's catchup was fairly obvtown and it seemed like 72 was specifically trying to sow dissent - going in with the preconceived notion that JD "must" be scum rather than actually aiming to sort him.
Do you think this push was scum!72 and if so, why not push 72? That's a wagon I can get on. I'm not interested in a cyl push today.
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:31 pm

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@72
, you still haven't answered the questions I've asked. Since they're about your "reasons" for voting me, I don't see any reason for you to not answer. One of your reasons is literally, that I switched tenses in one of my posts. Do you genuinely believe you've raised and decent points?

I've been holding back on voting while I waited for 72 to answer my questions but since that's not happening...
VOTE: 72
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:34 pm

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Reasons for my scum read are actually in my ISO and they actually make sense.
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:42 pm

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Calling it now: 72/Cyl scum team.
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:52 pm

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cylstar was prodded.
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:18 pm

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I'm not quite so comfy with cyl scum any more. It would totally follow (there is a reason she is LHF) and she's a good policy elim cos that's scary in endgameish situations but I think it's kinda obvious she doesn't care about this game any more whatever her alignment.

I've been reconsidering c4 from the perspective of someone who knew her alignment, thought she was likely to flip and tried to benefit from that but I'm worried I'm being omgusy.

We're already getting to the point we need to start coordinating and I hate it.
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:27 pm

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VOTE: C4

Can see !TownJdye thinking its me and cyl.

Cant see scumbox C4's case against Egix.
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:28 pm

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Mizzy, join me on the C4 wagon
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:28 pm

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JDye is still more likely scum than town though
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:29 pm

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In post 444, Mizzytastic wrote:I'm not quite so comfy with cyl scum any more. It would totally follow (there is a reason she is LHF) and she's a good policy elim cos that's scary in endgameish situations but I think it's kinda obvious she doesn't care about this game any more whatever her alignment.

I've been reconsidering c4 from the perspective of someone who knew her alignment, thought she was likely to flip and tried to benefit from that but I'm worried I'm being omgusy.

We're already getting to the point we need to start coordinating and I hate it.
How are you being OMGUSy? C4 said flatout that his vote on you was a microread... Any comments on what I posted at your earlier regarding muh?
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:31 pm

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@72off... When am I gonna get my turn on your scumread merry-go-round? :)

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