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[Andresvmb]

You have a Claim, backed up with an earlier test, and a correct result. Yet you want to leave a Scummy player alive and re-confirm Koba? That’s just... completely wrong.

[Infinity 324]

If I was mafia goon I could lie that I didn't get the message.

[Andresvmb]

I need a VC. I think I’ve made up my mind for today.

[DkKoba]

good afternoon

[Flavor Leaf]

So like Andres said, we kill Taylor then not let me off the hook I’d she flips town, right?

Down

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, stuff like that always happens when I’m sleeping and away from thread.

[Flavor Leaf]

Andres pushing that why rush thing, but it’s literally been my thing since 2014 that I will come out of nowhere and hammer to move he day forward, so

[Flavor Leaf]

There was a 0% chance it was a scum guilty on me imo. I figured it was a gunsmith result or a gambit. DGB didn't seem to be taking it back, so I assumed it was gunsmith and she was forcing a claim. Yes it was dumb to claim there, but that was my logic.

This makes sense.

I like that post too

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s also incredibly telling for me that Andres came in to try to setup a position where Taylor-Andres-Jackson can get through today with all alive.

I push Andres as scum, and look at them.

I don’t necessarily think they both have to be scum, but I am not wrong on multiple.

[Infinity 324]

Explain your VP townread again?

@Flavor

VP is my only confident scumread. As for taylor, sometimes I get soulreads on people and they just aren't wrong. Idk how to explain it any other way. I agree that DGB has made some towny posts, so I could maybe compromise on her. I just hate that two of the major lim options for today are me and someone who I can't ever see as scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Andres’ last section of posting is scum coming in because their partner is getting heat

[Flavor Leaf]

Explain your VP townread again?

@Flavor

VP is my only confident scumread. As for taylor, sometimes I get soulreads on people and they just aren't wrong. Idk how to explain it any other way. I agree that DGB has made some towny posts, so I could maybe compromise on her. I just hate that two of the major lim options for today are me and someone who I can't ever see as scum.

I just feel the opposite. With VP, yeah, I can see a world where they are scum, but they’ve mindmelded with me multiple times this game, and I feel like they’re genuine.

Andres however has a completely forced past few pages, and completely tried to change the direction of the game, regardless of if Taylor is their partner.

Actually, Andres play as scum might make more sense if Taylor is town, because it looks like they’re setting me up now.

[Flavor Leaf]

He also comes in trying to push Infinity harder.

He also came in last time, voted Taylor, then when people followed onto Taylor, he jumped off and went to Infinity.

He clearly doesn’t want Taylor faded, but he wanted people to think he did.

Now he’s stuck on this Infinity wagon. Infinity has tried so hard to get people to town read them alongside poorly assuming certain things in setup spec that he’s played incredibly poorly if he is scum. I think he’s just town.

I might be biased because he stated he checked me, but it looks like Andres is trying to fade a PR for their own protection.

[DkKoba]

i dont think this is andres' scum game i think ur just hella paranoid FL

[Andresvmb]

It’s also incredibly telling for me that Andres came in to try to setup a position where Taylor-Andres-Jackson can get through today with all alive.

I push Andres as scum, and look at them.

I don’t necessarily think they both have to be scum, but I am not wrong on multiple.

This is your idea of me defending my Partner Tayl0r?

Look if you just want to shade me this much, why don’t you vote me and try to get me executed? And then you can look completely foolish in the process.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m not even paranoid. He just came in with a complete defense and turn onto Infinity when the other wagon he was okay with was going fine. The one he effectively started (okay, DGB and VP were there, but Andres brought the momentum, and then left it off Taylor. Andres wants to get Infinity it seems but didn’t want to immediately go there for some reason. They probably thought Infinity would go without them.

I’m getting less scum reads on Taylor now, and more on Andres. They set a situation up where now I’m half worried my Taylor read was wrong, and if I push through, it would set me up to get misfaded as well.

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s also incredibly telling for me that Andres came in to try to setup a position where Taylor-Andres-Jackson can get through today with all alive.

I push Andres as scum, and look at them.

I don’t necessarily think they both have to be scum, but I am not wrong on multiple.

This is your idea of me defending my Partner Tayl0r?

Look if you just want to shade me this much, why don’t you vote me and try to get me executed? And then you can look completely foolish in the process.

Defending partners does not equal “oh, I think this slot is town” defending partners is done by actions taken to move discussion off of Taylor, which you did. You’re the one pushing for a PR claim fade when it’s just as easy to wait another day or so.

You’re the one who pushed Taylor only to chicken out when Taylor got steam.

[Flavor Leaf]

If you wanna act that surface level like you didn’t protect Taylor here, then I’m just gonna laugh, because that’s a funny joke

[Andresvmb]

This is a joke right? Flavor is trying not to actually suffer any consequences from a potential Tayl0r flip so I get blamed for “moving the game in a completely different direction”?

Maybe I just think that this is the right course of action? That ever cross your mind? And where do you disagree exactly?

[DkKoba]

VOTE: taylor

id rather not get infinity when their claim can at least lead to a 50/50 tomorrow. if theyre still scummy and alive then we can talk about it.

occams razor tells us to leave them alive.

[DkKoba]

moooooooooooooom my top 2 townreads are fightingggg

[Flavor Leaf]

Nah, if Taylor gets faded and flipped town, I will take all the blame.

You’re trying to make it so Taylor doesn’t get faded yet say that line?

You did actively move the game. Don’t try and act like you didn’t.

[Flavor Leaf]

Maybe I just think that this is the right course of action? That ever cross your mind? And where do you disagree exactly?

This would work better if you hadn’t came in and effectively started the Taylor wagon’d momentum earlier to begin with.

I half feel like you’re baiting me into voting Taylor becAuse if you know they are town, then I’m gonna be discredited after and you won’t take blame, even though you started the momentum there.

[Andresvmb]

No the part that is annoying is that you seem to be assuming that I’m TR Tayl0r all of a sudden. Which I’m clearly not doing. In fact, I asked for a VC in preparation of voting there. If you hadn’t gotten ahead of yourself, maybe you would have seen me do just that.

[Flavor Leaf]

Andres was playing in the exact way to get me to push Taylor harder.