Mini Normal 2170: Stuff I’m Listening To [Game Over]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am town.

I am giving you the benefit of the doubt to explain to me your thought process - you say you did this high stakes gamble with the IC's life - show me what the hell the upside is then

[The Bulge]

when scum plays like that, good mods call games early.

hold on this sentence came out a lot less coherent lol. I mean if scum's plan is to just no kill and push nolims back and forth (which, especially with a full team, is fucking stupid, and literally nobody wants to play like that much less a group of 3 all willing to agree), a good mod will call the game a stalemate because those scumplayers ruined the spirit of the game.

[The Bulge]

I would never feel the urge to tell town pooky to fuck off.

[the worst]

the fact you keep bringing up occam's razor as if anything about your stance on me isn't riddled with massive assumptions is laughable.

let's talk about this some more.


Shea keeps bringing up occam's razor as if his me-scum theory doesn't hypothesize that I have been one-man-show scumtheatring it up since the start of day 3, wasting all of my faction's actions on the stupidest fucking unnecessary wifomy bullshit multi-phase huge-target-on-my-back "play" that gives scum-me ZERO clout, credit, or credibility. all of that after 3 miselims in a row and 3 dead prs? get the fuck outta here you don't believe any of that for a fucking second.

Pooky acts like me being scum should be the most obvious thing in the world, when anyone reading the game can clearly tell this is an extremely complicated and nuanced situation (or else guess what? I would have been dead already if it's so cut-and-dry). he has stopped dead in his tracks on any other lead he's been following this whole game. Is that something a townie does when HALF OF THE OTHER LIVING PLAYERS ARE SCUM, or something scum does when they 1)need one more miselim to win, 2)there is a player who has put a huge target on their own back, 3)and so far this game they have been successful at manipulating the town thru three miselims in a row?

fwiw like yeah I will hear out the posts pushing for your beheading but I don't feel like anyone is holding a smoking gun, just yelling a lot?

I don't feel like I've seen anyone solve the hoodies

I feel uncomfortable because Shea's solve is incorrect and yday I very much got the "it's PoE so :shrug:" vibe and I'm hoping he is scum so he's not town who is about to just lose this game

I'm terrified Pooky is about to do that Pooky thing where he gets so overwhelmingly flamboyantly explosive about one point that he forgets the rest of the game exists

I see what's going on and I see your rebuttles and I'm like. yeah no I need to do more legwork before I'm ready to end this game. cue Shea screaming that this is wishy washy.

[the worst]

pooko what are your reads collectively - who are Bulgey's buddies?

[the worst]

I think I want Kasu to give their read on Bulge
I think I want more focus on the hoodies
I don't know how to advance with Shea rn

[Umlaut]

Vote Count 5.1

The Bulge

(1): Thestatusquo

Not voting

(6): Gamma Emerald, Blitzo, the worst, Kasumeat, PookyTheMagicalBear, The Bulge

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to yeet someone.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-11-22 03:30:30)

[Thestatusquo]

Oh hey look bulge didn't get piled while I was asleep.

Coolio.

[Gamma Emerald]

This would be a game where all the PRs threw wouldn’t it
Honestly I’m still thinking Bulge is town because look at the PR play standard in this game

[Thestatusquo]

14 hours since I voted bulge and he hasn't been piled despite ample time for the scum to do it.

So the lim pool is me or bulge today.

[the worst]

This would be a game where all the PRs threw wouldn’t it
Honestly I’m still thinking Bulge is town because look at the PR play standard in this game

Gammo what is your solve like rn hit me

[Gamma Emerald]

Shea 100% scum
Pooky 100% scum
tw 80% scum
Blitzo 20% scum

I’ve been around there since the start of yesterday, nothing I’ve seen since the massclaim has really done much to rip my reads in any direction.

[the worst]

gammo if you are town you are going to lose this game by half ass tunnelling me

can you expand a bit

[Blitzo]

Well we've got one between TSQ/bulge, so that's something.
Worst I'd imagine that his reasoning is the same as everyone else's - NM has been scummy and useless all game and has had terrible reads across the board. It is the most obvious observation in the world.

[The Bulge]

Shea 100% scum
Pooky 100% scum
tw 80% scum
Blitzo 20% scum

I’ve been around there since the start of yesterday, nothing I’ve seen since the massclaim has really done much to rip my reads in any direction.

and you don't have anything to say about me vs them? like I'm pretty sure I've expressed that I feel like I'm out here drowning on my own. you don't feel like addressing any of my points at all? like part of this is a cry for assurance and some fucking sanity in the thread, but mostly I'm wondering why you're comfortable sitting on the sidelines right now if your team is on the cusp of losing.

[The Bulge]

Blitzo I feel like you checked out of this game day 3

[the worst]

Well we've got one between TSQ/bulge, so that's something.
Worst I'd imagine that his reasoning is the same as everyone else's - NM has been scummy and useless all game and has had terrible reads across the board. It is the most obvious observation in the world.

I mean following this logic you're going to elim NM in XyLo 100% of the time and he's going to be scum, what? 25% of the time?
no way I'm rolling over and letting y'all policy elim me into a loss.

[Blitzo]

Blitzo I feel like you checked out of this game day 3

Not necessarily but I'm definitely not all here right now.
I'm still kinda taking my time a bit more than I usually do but even then I'm kinda burnt out - this game has been brutal.

Well we've got one between TSQ/bulge, so that's something.
Worst I'd imagine that his reasoning is the same as everyone else's - NM has been scummy and useless all game and has had terrible reads across the board. It is the most obvious observation in the world.

I mean following this logic you're going to elim NM in XyLo 100% of the time and he's going to be scum, what? 25% of the time?
no way I'm rolling over and letting y'all policy elim me into a loss.

Then be town. The onus is on you to fix that, not everyone else.

[The Bulge]

I hadn't thought about that I guess because my ass has kinda been over a fire since then. but I can see how you would be burnt out at this stage in the game.

[the worst]

that's utterly wrong. every player in every game has a vote. fundamentally, the onus is on a player to play the game rather than just policy yeeting into oblivion - we're humans playing a game of mafia, not a mafia simulation. if you always blast lowposters or lurkers you stop playing mafia and start playing "spot the wikipedia scumtell". but like i'm obviously doing what i can to show that i'm town.

[The Bulge]

I will say I'm liking worsty for town a lot more today than when he first repped in (sorry if I was grumpy to you before<3)

[Blitzo]

@Worst - yeah well you replaced into a scummy slot that wanted to lim me for no reason so, no, I don't really care for your frustration all that much.

Back on topic, if you're trying to solve the hood, do you have any questions for either of us or about anything that has happened in it?

[the worst]

how about like.. do you have any reads other than "man i want to policy yeet tw based on his pred"?

[the worst]

I will say I'm liking worsty for town a lot more today than when he first repped in (sorry if I was grumpy to you before<3)

it's ok, i was being provocative

[Blitzo]

how about like.. do you have any reads other than "man i want to policy yeet tw based on his pred"?

See yesterday.
I suspect Shea and Gamma for reasons already discussed.

I also have yet to hear a reason for kasu being town and am still rather cross about not having that answer. It's getting to the point where people are just saying he's town and then leaving it at that and it's driving me nuts.

There are just way too many people to suspect so I'll probably end up narrowing it down between TSQ and bulge for the sake of simplicity - Gamma is obviously anti shea though which puts me in a weird position I think.