976: mystyry box of sylvyr I: isis game. day 3

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Post Post #875 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:51 pm

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In post 872, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 870, MathBlade wrote:
In post 868, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 858, SKYEscrapers wrote:Townlean: Mathblade, Dunn, Akarin
Null: TGP
Scumlean: Gypyx, mastina, DT, Nic
This is my list, except I have Nic as town and DT as Null, and swap you with me
Why do you have Nic as town?
The play is too dumb to be scum
In post 871, SKYEscrapers wrote:
In post 868, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 858, SKYEscrapers wrote:Townlean: Mathblade, Dunn, Akarin
Null: TGP
Scumlean: Gypyx, mastina, DT, Nic
This is my list, except I have Nic as town and DT as Null, and swap you with me
I'm glad to hear that. Looks like no wagon switch is possible so we'll have to see how this goes!

I'm ready anytime for the hammer but can def wait until just before deadline hits.

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Post Post #876 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:28 pm

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In post 874, Akarin wrote:Ari, has either of your partners been active in the hydra PT these past 2 days?

Also, for the record, the section of game you're talking about is the reason Gypyx isn't totally lock town for me, but the earlier section that I linked to Math at some point, back when Gypyx was making the scumslip argument against me, felt very Town to me. That's the source of my (and Math's I think?) town on Gypyx. When you get a chance, would you look at that section of game again?

But that's way less important than catching up of course.
No, Summer is busy with school and Tris has had irl in the say. They've been around but not active at all. Mostly me talking to myself :P

And yeah, I'll reread it and catch up over the night phase. Won't change anything today lol
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Post Post #877 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:55 pm

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VOTE: NicCage
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Post Post #878 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:56 pm

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I still had 4 minutes!

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Post Post #879 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:00 pm

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Hey it works. Hammer was done. Better safe than no elim.
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Post Post #880 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:49 pm

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d1 final vote count


NicCage (5):
MathBlade, TheGoldenParadox, Gypyx, DoubtingThomas, Dunnstral

Dunnstral (2):
mastina, NicCage
TheGoldenParadox (1):
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not voting (1):
SKYEscrapers

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Post Post #881 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:53 pm

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NicCage has been Evilly Evicted! he was a
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night 1 starts now and ends in (expired on 2020-11-13 21:00:00)
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Post Post #882 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:09 am

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MathBlade has been killed in the night! he was a
vanilla townie!
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Post Post #883 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:14 am

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Day 2 Starts!


vote count 2.0


not voting (7):
SKYEscrapers, TheGoldenParadox, Dunnstral, mastina, Gypyx, Akarin, DoubtingThomas

with 7 alive, it takes 4 to Finally Forbid someone. day 2 starts now and ends november 26th at 11:15 central US time; in (expired on 2020-11-26 11:15:00)


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Post Post #884 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:28 am

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I will be here actually. Just catching up with the thread.

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Post Post #885 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:28 pm

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So with Mathblade being town.
Nic being town.
Dunnstral being impossible to be 3p as per Nic's information (thus, either town or scum, per Nic 90-10 on that).
And me being town.

I think we can safely rule out the game being four town only. :P
In post 861, MathBlade wrote:Not all mods obey the have you extend deadline rules. Especially on other sites. Are you sure you’re not forcing MS meta onto G?
Also, would like to add to this that schadd_'s wording was ambiguous on the matter--I, personally, interpreted schadd_'s wording as, "deadline is frozen until a replacement comes in and will be extended once one comes in", but the wording was ambiguous enough that a valid interpretation of it was, "deadline is still what it is, but will be extended when the slot is filled", meaning that if the slot wasn't filled by deadline, by that interpretation, the deadline would still go through.
In post 863, SKYEscrapers wrote:They were told at least twice and Iirc twice during the kerfuffle as well and they still refused to listen.
Were they? You empty-quoted schadd_, but that doesn't count as being told, because schadd_'s wording there is ambiguous. I personally interpreted it the correct way, but the wording there is not cut-and-dry 100% unambiguous as you're painting it as clearly being definitely "deadline is on hold right now and will be extended upon the replacement".
Because seeking a replacement for a slot incurring a deadline extension could also mean that whatever game phase the game is in, beit day or night, it will be extended to accommodate for the replacement.

TGP asked if we were getting an extension, but he was questioning it, not stating it as a fact.

Also, tellingly, Akarin also had that deadline rush, yet you focus on Gypyx alone for it.

Gypyx made it clear how he was interpreting schadd_'s post. He thought a deadline extension would only happen with a replacement coming in, and lacking a replacement coming in, that deadline would pass and we'd have a no-elimination D1 as a consequence.

TGP also pushed for the deadline hammer, too.

Suffice to say: pushing the idea that Gypyx was paranoia-pushing for a mislynch off of an 'obviously' wrong interpretation of schadd_'s post is...not an accurate reflection of that point in the game at all.
Akarin wasn't sure an extension was a thing; TGP pushed for a deadline elimination; it only became clear and unambiguous that there would be a deadline extension after the original time for deadline passed without the thread locking in a no-elimination.

VOTE: SKYEscrapers
I actually think this is the best vote here right now.
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Post Post #886 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:31 pm

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In post 879, MathBlade wrote:Hey it works. Hammer was done. Better safe than no elim.
(There's also the cognitive dissonance between people displaying this attitude now towards the extended deadline, but not recognizing this very same attitude being displayed for the original deadline when the circumstances behind a replacement-extension were not as clear-cut as they present.)
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Post Post #887 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:06 pm

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I'm not voting skye, I'm voting mastina or gypyx

VOTE: mastina
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Post Post #888 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:32 pm

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fuck man. math is a great kill lol math GOAT for being nk n1'ed after subbing in
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Post Post #889 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:37 am

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@Mastina

Who do you think are likely partners for SKYE? Who do you think is really unlikely?
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Post Post #890 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:57 am

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@Dunn
What changed with TGP for you between
In post 310, Dunnstral wrote:I don't actually think nic is scum

I'd like to get TGP or mastina
and
In post 868, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 858, SKYEscrapers wrote:Townlean: Mathblade, Dunn, Akarin
Null: TGP
Scumlean: Gypyx, mastina, DT, Nic
This is my list, except I have Nic as town and DT as Null, and swap you with me
?
And is there anything about Gypyx other than his behavior around the fake deadline that pings you?
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Post Post #891 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:26 am

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i will go back and read what math's reads were. probably a scum or two in there
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Post Post #892 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:13 pm

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In post 889, Akarin wrote:@Mastina
Who do you think are likely partners for SKYE? Who do you think is really unlikely?
In terms of unlikely, the only people who I think are incredibly unlikely to be SKYE partners are players I'm already townreading--Gypyx and TheGoldenParadox. (I could maybe go through the entire thread to go into more depth about interactions, but these two stand out as the obvious not-SKYE-scumbuddy slots.)

In terms of people who're likely partners for SKYEscrapers, Dunnstral fits (aside from the 90%-mechanical-town he fits as looking like scum in every way shape and form and his interactions with SKYEscrapers do seem scum-scum) and so does DoubtingThomas.

When it comes to this game, I legit think that it's a poe win--you're town; I'm town; Gypyx is town; TheGoldenParadox is town. That's 4/7 of the living players, which means that there's two scum in three names--SKYEscrapers, DoubtingThomas, and Dunnstral.

Even if we misfire today on one of the three, we got an autowin if we just eliminate the other two on D3 and D4.

I think Dunnstral is scummy as fuck, but because of the mechanically-90%-to-be-town I don't think he's the best elimination today.
So my preference would be SKYEscrapers or DoubtingThomas today.
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Post Post #893 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:45 pm

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In post 890, Akarin wrote:@Dunn
What changed with TGP for you between
In post 310, Dunnstral wrote:I don't actually think nic is scum

I'd like to get TGP or mastina
and
In post 868, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 858, SKYEscrapers wrote:Townlean: Mathblade, Dunn, Akarin
Null: TGP
Scumlean: Gypyx, mastina, DT, Nic
This is my list, except I have Nic as town and DT as Null, and swap you with me
?
And is there anything about Gypyx other than his behavior around the fake deadline that pings you?
Somewhere between there I went from thinking scum to playing anti-town, and Gypyx entered my radar I still think 3rd or 4th most scummiest.

Gypyx is scummy because he's been sitting back all game long and then tried to elim me when it doesn't make sense while trying to act neutral about it
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Post Post #894 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:30 pm

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In post 841, NicCage wrote:And yet here I am. Still trying to play while most of the town puts in zero effort.
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Post Post #895 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:00 pm

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So, Akarin, and Dunn are off the table for me.

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Post Post #896 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:01 pm

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In post 891, DoubtingThomas wrote:i will go back and read what math's reads were. probably a scum or two in there
anything you'd like to report?

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Post Post #897 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:03 pm

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hey, mastina. why was nic's claim suspect?

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Post Post #898 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:05 pm

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oh my god you suck btw

VOTE: mastina

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Post Post #899 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:29 am

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Ok so hmmmm, Akarin is pretty likely to be scum based on math being the nightkill imo, and i still haven't given up my scumread on her

VOTE: Akarin
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