BooneyToonz XIV: A Little Boonie Told Me [END]

[Endless Terror]

Why's your vote on vaxkiller if you find BEF actively scummy?

because noraa/72 were even more active scummy and is our biggest SR, y'know
-S

[Happy Birthday Boonskiies]

Lime

[Happy Birthday Boonskiies]

LIME

[Ydrasse]

getting sick of this limeposting

[Endless Terror]

trying to foster goodwill i guess? it goes both ways but for me it feels like something that is so obvious in how it's played out. that's bold as hell if it is scum and i don't know if bef would do something like that

*deep breath*

this is the progression
BEF a day ago: ET IS SCUM (we already claimed ascetic [REDACTED] at that point)
BEF a day later: eh ok ET we are working with you we will untunnel you
us: whys that
BEF: "Well assuming you are town, I would not want you to tunnel another town.
If you are scum then this is all for naught anyways."
us: do you scumread us then?
BEF: No, but I'm not locktowning you either.

this is such a dodgy and fencesitting response to all our questions and finally saying "GTH town" in the end. while not really fleshing it out either.

-shelly

[Endless Terror]

HBB, what are your thoughts on BEF.

-shelly

[Gypyx]

like, earlier my solve was like ircher/samantha are never scum together

Where does this come from?

ircher's defense of samantha in 335 and 340, especially given that ircher called samantha null in 159; there's no progression there.

Well, i'd even say that's likely to be scum together right? Like imo, buddies are very capable of quietly townleaning each other by default and also defending each other

[Endless Terror]

Well, i'd even say that's likely to be scum together right? Like imo, buddies are very capable of quietly townleaning each other by default and also defending each other

i think what ydrasse is trying to say is that the heavy/eager defense of Samantha seems a non-s/s thing
-shelly

[Gypyx]

Why's your vote on vaxkiller if you find BEF actively scummy?

because noraa/72 were even more active scummy and is our biggest SR, y'know
-S

That's fair okay, you'd consider going back to BEF in order to give the replacement some breathing room?

Pedit : yeah i get it, but i'm saying i have the opposite opinion

[Endless Terror]

VOTE: BEF

enjoy the fresh air vax, taylor will probably torment you though
-shelly

[BrightEyedFish]

VOTE: BEF

enjoy the fresh air vax, taylor will probably torment you though
-shelly

I thought we had made progress with working together?

[Happy Birthday Boonskiies]

Ooooooooooooooooo

[Happy Birthday Boonskiies]

(I'll get to you when I play later, shelly)

[Bell]

Why are you guys posting at 1:52 am.
Why am I posting at 1:52 am.

[shellyc]

Why are you guys posting at 1:52 am.
Why am I posting at 1:52 am.

over in elsewhere its evening...

Bell, thoughts on HUB slot?

[Endless Terror]

Why are you guys posting at 1:52 am.
Why am I posting at 1:52 am.

over in elsewhere its evening...

Bell, thoughts on HUB slot?

quote for iso
-s

[BrightEyedFish]

Why are you guys posting at 1:52 am.
Why am I posting at 1:52 am.

It's 11:17am here!

[Happy Birthday Boonskiies]

Time is a concept

[BrightEyedFish]

Time is a concept

You wouldn't vote me, would you?

[Gypyx]

Time is a concept

Is time an instrument?

[Happy Birthday Boonskiies]

An instrument that only brings pain and destruction. I am a pacifist, or timafist, if you will.

[samantha97]

my samantha vote is doing fuck all right now but it's definitely my strongest read like. what is the point of shading pelican and saying that voting them doesn't make sense and going onto a wagon that is objectively worse (pelican had votes, nico had none and nico's presence is negative) for like... what? what is the goal here?

uh the goal was to encourage the people voting for pelican to not vote for them; you answered your own question there

and the only player we literally can't read at all is nico, because they've said effectively nothing and posted only twice

even if you don't want to lynch nico, it's concerning that you are against pressuring a player that is deliberately not participating

[Bell]

V/LA till Wednesday @Boon

[The Pelican Brief]

also i think that tsunami/vax + samantha are viable together due to samantha's lukewarm reaction to the wagon on tsunami

The thought crossed my mind.

ALSO, also, whoever was asking about my townreads earlier (gamma im p sure): a lot of it was just due to impressions that i got of like, ~sincerity~ i guess of how they were approaching the game thus far, which might seem a bit counter-intuitive because of pelican's early game approach but i don't think that that's diminished the rest of their responses of the game thus far.

i read the hub case against pelican and like... they just don't seem scummy to me? like, i can't tell if it's bad faith or not for hub to post that case against them but regardless i just think that it's wrong unless there's something i'm really not seeing.

I had something typed up but

HUB

is becoming a slot that both heads of this hydra are co-solving, so I'm going to coordinate with

Titus

before I articulate my thought process.

But I don't see

HUB's

read progression that often in games, and so I'm wondering what he does with people's opinions on our slots.

Anyone got any read on Ircher? I find his iso lengthy but not really readable, which isn't really great tbh

I think he pushes in the direction where he doesn't like wind blowing. I'm still waiting to see a follow-up of his posts from the other day.

i was just reading it, and i'm more unsure now about him than i was

like, earlier my solve was like ircher/samantha are never scum together but individually i'm finding samantha very scummy and ircher's last two posts (the flippant post about wanting to vote pelican and then going through with it) pinging me. it's ~weird~

Mmmmmm.... This implies you see T/S in their interaction. If you had to go off this basis to solve both slots now, which alignments would you say they are?

my samantha vote is doing fuck all right now but it's definitely my strongest read like. what is the point of shading pelican and saying that voting them doesn't make sense and going onto a wagon that is objectively worse (pelican had votes, nico had none and nico's presence is negative) for like... what? what is the goal here?

1)

uh the goal was to encourage the people voting for pelican to not vote for them; you answered your own question there

2)

and the only player we literally can't read at all is nico, because they've said effectively nothing and posted only twice

3)

even if you don't want to lynch nico, it's concerning that you are against pressuring a player that is deliberately not participating

1)

Huh? You say both heads of this hydra are illogical and say that you're being charitable in your perception of this slot.

I have no scumreads or townreads right now.

"I didn't read the thread"

I think pelican's posts have been consistently illogical, regardless of which head is doing the posting. I was being really charitable before because of their role claim (like thinking taly really didn't understand a joke), but there's a tipping point. That said, it still doesn't make sense for us to vote for them today.

VOTE: NicoRobin

Even if you say

"let's not vote them D1"

- that doesn't change your issues.

It feels like you're pivoting on this slot because you think (or want us to believe) that this slot holds opinions that aren't correct.

So you framing this as putting our wagon off reads as deflective.

And makes me wonder what about our hydra threatens or confuses you. Why do you see us as a slot to shelve?

2)

I'm at the point of thinking

Nico

just replaces out...

3)

I'm seeing a trend into your posts about voting and going after players that aren't contributing much. Why not have input or pressure players that are far more readable?

~Taly

[The Pelican Brief]

trying to foster goodwill i guess? it goes both ways but for me it feels like something that is so obvious in how it's played out. that's bold as hell if it is scum and i don't know if bef would do something like that

*deep breath*

this is the progression
BEF a day ago: ET IS SCUM (we already claimed ascetic [REDACTED] at that point)
BEF a day later: eh ok ET we are working with you we will untunnel you
us: whys that
BEF: "Well assuming you are town, I would not want you to tunnel another town.
If you are scum then this is all for naught anyways."
us: do you scumread us then?
BEF: No, but I'm not locktowning you either.

this is such a dodgy and fencesitting response to all our questions and finally saying "GTH town" in the end. while not really fleshing it out either.

-shelly

Shoutout, I feel this post, I'm going to reread

BEF

again, I keep gut townleaning due to tone and stances that I don't benefit scum here? But I do want to reread.

I encourage

Gypyx

to talk to me about his reread of the slot.

~Taly