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Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:48 am

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Why :igmeou:
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Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:54 am

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Because the interactions between DT and you still make me uneasy. Im not ok with voting with people i suspect.
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Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:57 am

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What happened to your superb suspicion, then?
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Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 3:16 am

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In post 1152, Gamma Emerald wrote:What happened to your superb suspicion, then?
It's still there for his willingness to accept any death.

But here is the thing. No wolf is gonna openly talk about policy eliminations. I hate it because i am one of his suggestions but a wolf would be very careful about how he suggests deaths. Superb did it so carefree that it it cant come from a wolf.

I also convinced myself that his policy elimination can't be real because i was his target, i hated it that he was willing to yeet me for the reasons he wanted to, still do. But i policy townread Battle Mage and it would be hypocritical that my policy action is real while hos is fake.
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Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 3:17 am

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Correction: while his is fake
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Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 3:44 am

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There are a few things about DT that i don't like.

1) It reminds me of his wolf game too much, he wolfs when he is town too but he is rational. Here he has been very irrational.
2) When I posted the big spoiler wall about how i pocketed Gamma and mentioned a possible DT-Gamma relation, he ignored it and pushed me bote with him against superb because he wanted to policy lim us. DT is not a newbie, he should know that policy lim suggested so openly cant come from wolf, but I am the noob and i fell for it and that was enough to make ignore my suspicion on DT-Gamma.
3) He pocketed me hard when he said he townread me, being town read when everyone else suspects you feels really validating, and ever since then i've been leaving him alone until i noticed his DT-Gamma relations.

4) Scum reading the entire mafia team on D1 is the equivalent of hitting the lottery and I know im not that lucky. So Superbowl, Gamma, DT can't be the team by that logic and insisting that i must be right is really arrogant, i got a big ass ego but i can keep it in check.
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Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:05 am

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VOTE: DoubtingThomas
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Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:27 am

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bad boy guillo. bad boy
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Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:28 am

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i will say guillo tinfoiling on me is a good sign
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Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:29 am

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and superb hopping on for an opportunistic wagon :tsk tsk:
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Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:31 am

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In post 1155, Guillotina wrote:2) When I posted the big spoiler wall about how i pocketed Gamma and mentioned a possible DT-Gamma relation, he ignored it and pushed me bote with him against superb because he wanted to policy lim us. DT is not a newbie, he should know that policy lim suggested so openly cant come from wolf, but I am the noob and i fell for it and that was enough to make ignore my suspicion on DT-Gamma.
i am not reading every single words of every single posts you write. especially if i don't scum read you and have greater focuses elsewhere
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Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:33 am

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VOTE: Aristophanes
I don't like how much of a gnarl the situation is with the more active players, but it seems like no good agreement is probably gonna be reached there, so I think it's best we defer that issue.
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Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:37 am

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In post 1161, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Aristophanes
I don't like how much of a gnarl the situation is with the more active players, but it seems like no good agreement is probably gonna be reached there, so I think it's best we defer that issue.
why are they scum?
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Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:41 am

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He has a different vibe than the last time I played with him where he was town. It's a tone read essentially. But I've seen decent sentiment towards pushing an inactive so I figured I'd work with those people who'd suggested that, and out of the two prime choices there Ari is my preferred wagon
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Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:52 am

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In post 1153, Guillotina wrote:But here is the thing. No wolf is gonna openly talk about policy eliminations.
also not true proven by experience both personal and witnessing someone else
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Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:53 am

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asking for policy lim while saying 'i didn't actually town read them' is a weak stance, a very anti-town stance. killing people you are annoyed at = when they flip town you just say, 'haha but i never actually scum read them' hot garbage move regardless of alignment
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Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:54 am

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In post 1165, DoubtingThomas wrote:asking for policy lim while saying 'i didn't actually
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read them' is a weak stance, a very anti-town stance. killing people you are annoyed at = when they flip town you just say, 'haha but i never actually scum read them' hot garbage move regardless of alignment
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Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:55 am

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that is why I had such a great distaste for superb's push for a policy lim on DT/guillo btw :up:
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Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:00 am

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Spoiler:
In post 375, superbowl9 wrote:Down to elim guillotine just to raise the level of play, you’re posting way too much for someone doing pretty much nothing VOTE: Guillotina
In post 483, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 481, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 479, DoubtingThomas wrote:it's noted that tayl0r swift is too good for me and won't even read my posts.
im not singling you out. i skimmed the thread but ughhh it was such a slog
Wanna elim in DT/Guillotine with me so we dont have to read this anymore
In post 543, superbowl9 wrote:Only reason im trying to policy lim is because if I had to call a scum right now it would be you
In post 638, superbowl9 wrote:Also you down to hop on guillotina chaos? I think it's as good a D1 elim as we're gonna get
In post 663, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 659, Gamma Emerald wrote:And I feel like their posting isn’t as bad as you try to put it. Sure guillo’s 651 looks like a bunch of confbiased overeager theorycrafting garbage, but it also seems like a real take at least.
This is EXACTLY what I’m talking about. It’s an overton window shift, we’re now having a discsussion about whether or not what Guillo said is really THAT bad or not. I’m saying can we ditch this and have more productive conversations?
In post 705, superbowl9 wrote:PLEASE because right now the townblock is weird gamma and 2 newbies
In post 757, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 731, Gamma Emerald wrote:@superb I still townread DT but I am willing to lim guillo now
Great let’s get wagoning!
In post 778, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 769, catboi wrote:I don't really support a guillotina vote today.
Why not?
In post 796, superbowl9 wrote:See what im talking about in BM
In post 835, superbowl9 wrote:I would compromise on pob BM idk if that has support though. Also remember the vig can take care of one slot we dont elim
In post 933, superbowl9 wrote:BM I would hop on DT with you but it seems like they are widely townread there so I think wagoning is somewhat futile. Guillo is more likely to pick up steam from my perspective
In post 942, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 939, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 933, superbowl9 wrote:BM I would hop on DT with you but it seems like they are widely townread there so I think wagoning is somewhat futile. Guillo is more likely to pick up steam from my perspective
you dont think it would be valuable nonetheless? he seems to be crumbling under the pressure of 1 vote already.
I already did this right after we got out of RVS, I thought it made DT look like an obviously good elim target but this town does not agree so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
In post 947, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 946, Battle Mage wrote:there's literally no consensus on anybody though...
I mean we only have about 7 active players anyways, Nora and johnny both TR DT so i don't think we're getting them, I think it's just me and you willing to hop on atp
In post 949, superbowl9 wrote:I thought your pob idea was a good one, but apparently we were vetoed by the big 3 on that too -.-
In post 969, superbowl9 wrote:Who are you willing to elim today taylor
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In post 990, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 933, superbowl9 wrote:BM I would hop on DT with you but it seems like they are widely townread there so I think wagoning is somewhat futile. Guillo is more likely to pick up steam from my perspective
My BRUH from before was to this
I literally combed Guillo mentions and found outside 3 people Guillo was not in anyone’s lim pool. This feels pretty silly, maybe superb’s scum PT turned into a bit of an echo chamber? :giggle:
Exactly vs. the 2 who are willing to go DT....
In post 1148, superbowl9 wrote:All aboard!

VOTE: Doubting Thomas


these are all posts where he's more concerned about 'compromising' on who to eliminate rather than like actual scum hunting.

what are his scum reads so deep into day 1? can someone please answer me? yikes
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Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:17 am

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yeah i could still go for a sup wagon here.
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Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:18 am

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Gamma Ari is still vla yeah? What's the point here?
Phone posting. Low effort, big fun.
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Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:28 am

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the fact he's VLA doesn't mitigate the vibes I've already gotten from him.
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Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:50 am

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mod note
Aristophanes has been nudged.
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Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:53 am

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The vibe being "different from this one game"
Phone posting. Low effort, big fun.
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Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:39 am

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In post 1164, DoubtingThomas wrote:
In post 1153, Guillotina wrote:But here is the thing. No wolf is gonna openly talk about policy eliminations.
also not true proven by experience both personal and witnessing someone else
Can that experience be corroborated?

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