Epilogue! - [Endgame]

[OkaPoka]

ok ill just vote maria and be quiet bout anything else

[Ydrasse]

don’t let the haters get you down oka

[OkaPoka]

i do think hectic/shellyc (but especially hectic) is something that needs to be looked at

i really dislike that i have to hear hectic through shelly and shelly is saying things that to me, feel very out of character for hectic and feels like a scum optimization of pts - and i can't really trust shelly's word on hectic being so townie since its not that hard to optimize your messaging to one person

[OkaPoka]

additionally i think dgb's reentrance into the game is not the greatest and it is odd to me that a lot of people are leaning town on her now. if anything she is still a big fat NULL and entering the game with dunn scum lmao is i think +scum %

[Ydrasse]

do you think that dbg’s frustration in posts like 1633 could be something like, caught for the wrong reasons/early on sort of thing? and then also frustration that people aren’t really like, being swayed too much away from that

[OkaPoka]

do you think that dbg’s frustration in posts like 1633 could be something like, caught for the wrong reasons/early on sort of thing? and then also frustration that people aren’t really like, being swayed too much away from that

i was thinking that dgb being scum would be more of a narrative of just throwing the kitchen sink at the wall and see if their pair can survive for a bit longer

i guess caught for the wrong answers could be an explanation idk, i need to think who else makes sense in a dgb/dd having scum world

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.2

deleuzional - Ydrasse [4] - Isis, DrippingGoofball, Tayl0r Swift, beeboy
DrippingGoofball - Doctor Drew [5] - Dunnstral, shellyc, MariaR, Hectic, Akarin
MariaR - The Bulge [2] - OkaPoka, Firebringer
OkaPoka - Firebringer [0] -
beeboy - Isis [0] -
Dunnstral - Akarin [0] -
Hectic - shellyc [0] -
Bell - Tayl0r Swift [0] -

Not Voting [5]

- deleuzional, Bell, The Bulge, Ydrasse, Doctor Drew

With 16 alive it takes 9 votes to execute

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Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2020-11-26 02:40:05)

[OkaPoka]

lets get all votes casted so we can see where we are are standing before we start coalitioning etc.

[DrippingGoofball]

do you think that dbg’s frustration in posts like 1633 could be something like, caught for the wrong reasons/early on sort of thing? and then also frustration that people aren’t really like, being swayed too much away from that

I reiterate, all I want is a chance to read DD. Give me 48 hours.

I despair of DD's continued silence, though.

[DrippingGoofball]

If we decide to yeet my slot I would appreciate an opportunity to leave you with final reads.

[MariaR]

oka I'm interested in your back pocket solve, particularly why you dropped leuz from it after pooky flipped over anyone else?

its a hilarious solve that involves firebringer being an utter meme and mariaR looking at this setup and thinking the best way to win is to make a S-S pair and send herself to endgame

This is a pretty baseless theory that I don't think you really believe in. Why do you think I try to send myself to end game?

[Ydrasse]

i’m not rushing you dgb

[OkaPoka]

ive expressed what i need to express, if isis doesn't want me to make push my wild solves im not going to, but i do believe what ive posted

[MariaR]

Hrm

I do think MariaR tries to insist she's townreadable but I guess maybe she doesn't usually frame it as "scumrange"
I don't have a scumrange btw, and getting confirming my mafia goon role PM so enthusiastically that FakeGod confirms me town is definitely within my scumrange

There are games where I feel like I can be townread as town. My scumrange is insane and yes I probably can make X post as scum but that never really is the point. There's a lot of times where if you look at things from a logical standpoint scum me never does certain things. Although not many people seem to care to read me and only are calling me a wolf for the sake of it (Hi Oka, Fire, Dunn) but that's mostly expected.

Still think we flip DD/DGB here first unless you disagree with my statement that a wolf in that pair means T Dunn and vice versa.

[MariaR]

i think its kinda of a meta read on maria?

You should've stopped here because anything else would be wrong. But if you think I'm the type of player that goes 'wow I need to carry this scum team' and tries to make a SvS pairing than you really have no idea how I think things through. The only player in this entire playerlist I would make a SvS pairing with is Dunnstral no one else and that reason was because a lot of people in the playerlist knew I could meta Dunnstral so I tried to use that to my advantage. Considering neither of those things can happen this game I would've never made a SvS pairing nor would I ever make a plan with scum me being the end game goal.

[MariaR]

I don't think Oka is a stupid player and this theory is on the edge of being either Scum or stupid. *Shrug*

[OkaPoka]

im in the view that anyone who has played a dance setup realizes that its optimal to run a s/s pair

[MariaR]

That strongly depends on A) The playerlist and B) Who can dance with who. I had a whole 3 pages of notes ready for the scum team on how to take dancing to the best of our advantage. Sadly it went to waste considering I didn't flip wolf.
I do think SvS pairings should be more common especially with 4 wolves but it isn't correct to just pair 2 scum off and run.

[MariaR]

Anyway, none of that really matters can we go back to DD/DGB thanks.

[OkaPoka]

That strongly depends on A) The playerlist and B) Who can dance with who. I had a whole 3 pages of notes ready for the scum team on how to take dancing to the best of our advantage. Sadly it went to waste considering I didn't flip wolf.
I do think SvS pairings should be more common especially with 4 wolves but it isn't correct to just pair 2 scum off and run.

yeah so i think it makes a whole lot of sense that if you are scum you are probably in a s/s pair because bulge is not a deadweight player that will prevent you from reaching endgame

im scumreading you and then applyng the logic that you would prefer an s/s pair over two s/t pairs

[OkaPoka]

and i mean of course its always possible that scum just rolled 4 gents or you don't want to pair with your lady scum but your pairing with both bulge and firebringer attempts just really pinged me

[MariaR]

There's no way I would ever make a SvS pairing in a playerlist like this but ok.

[OkaPoka]

cool maybe im wrong but its not like im going to take your word for it lol

[MariaR]

The fact you're taking my biggest towntell in the game into a scumread means your meta card should be taken away. Also if you're looking at me in such a confident light as a scum player don't you think I would've you know, planned out this SvS pairing better? I don't know, it just feels like you're sticking your feet in the ground and trying to just throw a wolfread at the wall instead of this being something you really thought out and feel the need to push.

[OkaPoka]

im not applying a direct meta to you? im applying a generalization where people who have run dance are going to want to S/S im not saying as an expert on mariaR's meta ... like where am i using meta as my case against you? my read on you is based on your posts all pinging me, but whenever i have a top scumread i like to flesh out a narrative that might make sense of who the rest of their teammates are. i could just delete all my ideas about you and id still want to eliminate you, all it would change is i would no longer care about bulge or firebringer.