Epilogue! - [Endgame]

[OkaPoka]

- I have experience with Ydrasse
- in the past I have a (3/3 pretty sure) accuracy of reading Ydrasse
- I believe ydrasse is easy to read off tone and will obvtown when town

"i just think voting your pair is something productive "

i dont know how to put this without sounding rude but have you ever heard of pressure votes and info lynches?

[shellyc]

i dont know how to put this without sounding rude but have you ever heard of pressure votes and info lynches?

I'm not offended

Why would I, having an understanding of hectic's alignment with his posting and my pressuring in the PT, and having come to a conclusion of probtown!hectic, vote my lover?

unless you're referring to something else in which case tell me

[OkaPoka]

i dont know how to put this without sounding rude but have you ever heard of pressure votes and info lynches?

I'm not offended

Why would I, having an understanding of hectic's alignment with his posting and my pressuring in the PT, and having come to a conclusion of probtown!hectic, vote my lover?

unless you're referring to something else in which case tell me

ok whats going on you asked me if im judging you for not voting yourself but you clearly understand why i wouldn't judge you for not voting yourself what is happening

[shellyc]

i just think voting your pair is something productive

answering my first line: why are you scumreading me

[shellyc]

me: oka why are you scumreading me
oka: voting your pair is something productive
me: ok but why are you judging me through voting my pair
oka: Why would I judge you that way

...
(At least how I interpreted this convo)

[OkaPoka]

i dont really have much of an opinion on ydrasse atm

Why are you evaluating/scumreading someone (me) through your null read?

Do you buy the rest of my case having looked at it?

i just think voting your pair is something productive and i do agree with isis to an extent that you could be tmi'ing ydrasse - but its more that i find it strange you keep mentioning ydrasse instead of leuz

i really have no opinion about the content on your towncase of ydrasse

little known fact that I dislike alts

are you judging me off the fact that I'm not voting my pair

are you judging me off the fact that I'm not voting my pair

does this not mean: yo okapoka, you think im doing something wrong because i, shellyc, am currently not voting my pair?

that is how i interpreted it

[Isis]

Shellyc who is Last Pair

according to fakegod's OP the last pair formed in predance is {Bell/Tayl0r Swift}
let me know if you want me to give a different interpretation

Last Pair is the T-T pair you pick out to win the game.

If you pick a T-T pair correctly and spill wine on everyone else you win 100% of the games with no S-S pair and randomly win like most of the games that do have an S-S pair

Last Pair is as fetch as "wolf dance" because it came from wolf dance, it is in like eyepatches

[shellyc]

i just think voting your pair is something productive

are you judging me off the fact that I'm not voting my pair

p-edit: hm.

[Isis]

btw don't call my pair Last Pair don't talk about fight club

[shellyc]

GTH - tayl0r swift-bell? I have doubts about bell but I think the "I actively chose to post less and not be active here" might be too scummy to be scum, taylor-pooky being s/s is really far-fetched

[Tayl0r Swift]

i have this tinfoilhat theory that leuz is scum and picked me to be a universal townread and pushed that really hard so that scum could partner scum with isis and then explain why the IC pair survived when they killed my pair instead. thats why leuz wanted me paired with obvtown. dunno how well the plan worked out given pooky.

[OkaPoka]

okay since this conversation is going to get bloated since there appears to be a some difficulty in communication here: im trying to dodge the premise that i might or might not scumread you, and explain that im voting you because i feel like it could achieve some ulterior motive whether that is getting you killed or evaluating you or maybe just helping isis out. who knows, im dodging it

[Bell]

GTH - tayl0r swift-bell? I have doubts about bell but I think the "I actively chose to post less and not be active here" might be too scummy to be scum, taylor-pooky being s/s is really far-fetched

Too scummy to be scum isn't a thing.

[OkaPoka]

bell where is your vote going

[Hectic]

I read back on the EoD final 3 of Pooky/Bell/Hectic stuff, and how Pooky was acting, and it's really hard to read it, and what it means for Bell's alignment, because he's not gunning to have Bell or I left behind, he's just acting defeatist and nonchalant as a tactic.

Bell wasn't particularly desperate to pair off this game though.
He proposed twice:

Firebringer.

Would, would you dance with me?

taylorswift, will you dance with me?

He didn't bother to correct the bold on the first, and the second is to Tayl0r, who had expressed interest to dance with me before this point, so Bell isn't exactly doing his best to pair with someone who's more likely to accept, makes me feel better about him.

POOKY????????

HELLO???????

WHAT IS HAPPENING

i haven’t read this game at all im so upset

I thought this reaction was very towny. It's pretty bold to "AtE" like this as scum after a partner flip, and I haven't really seen this in scum!Ydrasse's range elsewhere.

Oh, and Tayl0r is obviously probably town for slaying Pooky and picking Bell. A S-S pairing really isn't the end of the world there, especially since they were both generally being read decently.

sorry i’m just so upset pooky please can we be town together why why why

more townyspew

way pooky and hectic acted pregame makes me think they aren't a team

here is a general reads list with no notes or comments:

DrippingGoofball-Town
deleuzional-Town
Hectic-Scum
MariaR -Scum
Dunnstral- Town
Bell-NullTown
beeboy-NullScum
OkaPoka-First Mate
PookyTheMagicalBear- Scum
Isis-Queen Scum
Tayl0r Swift-LeanScum
Akarin-True Null
The Bulge-NullTown
Ydrasse-NullTown
shellyc-NullTown
Firebringer- King of the Pirates
Doctor Drew-NullScum

uh huh, what happened to that Hectic/Pooky read, Forebronger?

ALSO, I should talk about that actually. There's just no way Pooky/I both enter this game with the tactic of "let's try and partner with the IC and not propose to anyone else until we're in the final 3". For one, despite Isis being an incredibly fun person to talk to, it's very suboptimal for scum to partner with the IC. and it's especially suboptimal for both of us to run that tactic down to the ground until we're in a 3 person PoE. I also got pocketed by Pooky so it should be telling we're not SvS from our interactions...

Around about on page 58, shelly asked me about the context about my post 1430. I thought that was towny because I could see that post implying history of me using PTs to pocket, it's good paranoia.

Speaking of shelly, let's see how she talked about Pooky pre-death:

i want pooky > hectic/bell. pooky feels very unconcerned overall about everything which is scum!AI, also the tone feels really pockety like scum!him is

Accept hectic

sorry swizzy. this is MINE.

i'd highly recommend doing bell

lmao shelly really just stole taylor's man

also you guys were supposed to collaborate or something idek why im complaining i love the drama

taylor can pick bell and kill scum!pooks.

im heavily leaning towards pooky through further reads of the iso

pooky is just super pocket-y regarding hectic yet showing almost no concern towards the dance, the kick

i am regretting my impulsiveness alreadyyyyyyyy

yeah, really good reason to think shelly is town from this. Also, I just feel really good about shelly in general from what we've talked about in the PT, but I admit I have bias for her choosing to dance with me when a couple of people *cough luez and Dunny* were gunning for my death. I am charmed.

This will continue later.

[Hectic]

Isis's new avatar is very strong material. If I were FakeGod, I'd be giving that a bulletproof vest

[Tayl0r Swift]

im not as confident in the shelly read there.

[Hectic]

What are your qualms?

[OkaPoka]

how much of this is new and how much of this is stuff you already had in pt? @hectic

[Hectic]

maybe like half of it has been discussed in PT

[Tayl0r Swift]

well for one thing its shelly. for another she jumped to pair with you and leave me with the choice, suggesting that maybe she didnt want to be in the S-S pairing of her and pooky. it seemed pretty clear that pooky thought he could make me pick him. she also was very confident in pooky being scum.

[Hectic]

implying it's shelly and she loves to bus? She seemed to be actually trying to convince you to leave Pooky behind

[OkaPoka]

hecboi have you discussed who you think is scum?

[Hectic]

yeah, sorry am compromised again so gotta leave thread.will make this brief

I dislike DGB/Drew last I checked

also have qualms about luez/Firebringer

[shellyc]

well for one thing its shelly.

hi taylor

I'm pretty sure there's a site clause making me roll town every game ever since mafiascum thought the RNG gods were unfair during my early days