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[Albert B. Rampage]

So he's a claimed VT and the loss would be small but the reward of lynching him is great. With a big reward and a small possible loss he sounds like a perfect flip candidate, no?

like I just feel like his whole vt claim is so he can argue that he wouldn't claim VT as scum.

In theory yes but I play on intuition.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@ABR
You claim to have townread Nero this entire time, Nero doesn't scumread me and i do believe he's way better at reading me than you are.
I'm not seeing where your confidence at me being scum comes from.

[innocentvillager]

like I just feel like his whole vt claim is so he can argue that he wouldn't claim VT as scum.

i mean, that is essentially the only reason why scum would ever claim VT on d1

and of course, if he is VT he just claims VT so

the risk/reward thing is just appealing to you because you think the reward is so high, specifically you think P(prententious scum) is significantly higher than 25%

that is the assumption that i disagree with, and most people off the wagon would as well

[Nero Cain]

im aware and i don't love that this is mostly just the people who haven't been posting much, but uh,

it's good enough for D1

but is it really?

I know its d1 and there's no flips and no info but the whole scum reading all the lurkers and town reading all the actives seems pretty bonkers to me.

I mean I know you said that you aren't in love with it but you HAVE to think you are wrong somewhere right?

[innocentvillager]

I mean I know you said that you aren't in love with it but you HAVE to think you are wrong somewhere right?

of course i'm wrong! what's the chance that i got all 4 scum in this lurker pool on d1? like, very very small

[innocentvillager]

but is it really?

I know its d1 and there's no flips and no info but the whole scum reading all the lurkers and town reading all the actives seems pretty bonkers to me.

fine, it's not good enough for d1, im just being lazy

im not arguing my reads are like great

im simply stating my points of view, how i feel about them, and any supporting reasoning i can think of

you can evaluate as you like

[NorwegianboyEE]

@IV
I agree with Nero's point, i believe you're making a mistake with this "let Flavour live until D3 and eliminate lurkers" stance.
I don't think you're necessarily scum for it, just wrong.

[Nero Cain]

{TheDuke, DGB, muh, may, non, Umlaut, Glitch}

I mean technically it's possible that all 4 scum could be here but ummmm I just kinda think that's silly.

Also if muh was in your POE why did you never join there?

[Albert B. Rampage]

my WAY TOO EARY solve is that all 4 scum is in

JacksonVirgo

Pretentious

muh316
Tayl0r Swift
Albert B. Rampage
innocentvillager

Look at this post ^

What Nero has done is harden his "way too early" solve on pg16 with no margin of error or slight deviation to the point where he's supremely confident he's right despite all evidence to the contrary.

The more the game progresses, the more certain he is of whatever his arbitrary hunch was when he started. Nobody finds scum on page 16 so I understand what's happening with him and it isn't special or worth placing any weight on.

He's not an imaginative player.

Norwee, sounds like you're playing to his meta knowledge of you to pocket him.

The reason why I win so often is because I can overcome my bias, see through illusion and form contrarian opinions that I can rally other players around eventually.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It's way more important to get rid of active scum than flaking/non-active players that can be scum. As they have very little influence and will likely be the elimination at some point anyway if we don't hit scum until then.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee, sounds like you're playing to his meta knowledge of you to pocket him.

Yeah i've seen this a thousand times. "Omg, Nero and Norwee townread each other, woe be me. One is pocketing the other"

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's way more important to get rid of active scum than flaking/non-active players that can be scum. As they have very little influence and will likely be the elimination at some point anyway if we don't hit scum until then.

I agree completely. Let's start with you.

[innocentvillager]

@IV
I agree with Nero's point, i believe you're making a mistake with this "let Flavour live until D3 and eliminate lurkers" stance.
I don't think you're necessarily scum for it, just wrong.

well, if i completely nullread him I wouldn't be saying that

he is one of my higher tier TRs at the moment, so that's why im saying that

you scumread him, so that's where we disagree

{TheDuke, DGB, muh, may, non, Umlaut, Glitch}

I mean technically it's possible that all 4 scum could be here but ummmm I just kinda think that's silly.

Also if muh was in your POE why did you never join there?

i totally agree

i was meh on muh, if a wagon formed there again i wouldn't mind joining it at all

think i thought umlaut was worth somewhat more pursuing at the time, but that wagon died down like super quickly which still makes me go ehhhhh

[Nero Cain]

Who is scum, ABR?

[NorwegianboyEE]

It's way more important to get rid of active scum than flaking/non-active players that can be scum. As they have very little influence and will likely be the elimination at some point anyway if we don't hit scum until then.

I agree completely. Let's start with you.

Dude, just stop.
You sound so childish.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Who is scum, ABR?

Norwee and IV's POE.

[innocentvillager]

It's way more important to get rid of active scum than flaking/non-active players that can be scum. As they have very little influence and will likely be the elimination at some point anyway if we don't hit scum until then.

I agree completely. Let's start with you.

Dude, just stop.
You sound so childish.

lol i thought it was pretty funny Norway

[innocentvillager]

Who is scum, ABR?

Norwee and IV's POE.

uh, except for muh right, he's in my PoE too

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's way more important to get rid of active scum than flaking/non-active players that can be scum. As they have very little influence and will likely be the elimination at some point anyway if we don't hit scum until then.

I agree completely. Let's start with you.

Dude, just stop.
You sound so childish.

Nah scum tend to narrate exactly what they are doing in the third person on a theoretical level. It's called putting a grain of truth in your lies.

[innocentvillager]

if i had to pick one active player i think im most likely to be wrong on, it would be like GE

i read through my notes again and uh, it just looks like he's solving a lot and reevaluating that's really the only thing I had, which is fakeable by good scum. idk how good he is at scum

[Tayl0r Swift]

VOTE: pretentious

[NorwegianboyEE]

It's way more important to get rid of active scum than flaking/non-active players that can be scum. As they have very little influence and will likely be the elimination at some point anyway if we don't hit scum until then.

I agree completely. Let's start with you.

Dude, just stop.
You sound so childish.

Nah scum tend to narrate exactly what they are doing in the third person on a theoretical level. It's called putting a grain of truth in your lies.

You just have to seep your poison into every single post i make from now on don't you.
You're actively being anti-town with your method of argument.
If you know i'm so obviously scum why don't you make an proper case and see how many bite? What you're doing right now is fucking garbage and making me want to replace out of the game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like i don't even care what your allignment is, i'm just so done with your shitpush.

[Tayl0r Swift]

can everyone just calm down a bit? this is getting toxic and its certainly counterproductive

[innocentvillager]

is it getting toxic? i didn't get that vibe, even ABR's push on Norway just seems aggressive, nothing else