Epilogue! - [Endgame]

shellyc · Post Post #2575 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:33 am

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shellyc · Post Post #2576 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:35 am

In post 2563, Tayl0r Swift wrote:UNVOTE:

nice to see you sheep me but i'd like to hear the why

dunn can you talk to me more about town!maria, i don't think creating a division between you/DGB-DD is very AI?

Dunnstral · Post Post #2577 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:41 am

In post 2576, shellyc wrote:dunn can you talk to me more about town!maria, i don't think creating a division between you/DGB-DD is very AI?

Well that's what I originally had a problem with her for; after thinking about it some more, I do think it's less ai, or at least doesn't make her scum. Having reconsidered that, this feels a bit more like town Maria to me, looking at the rest of what they've done (when they're not being combative with the town).

I'm more comfortable to let her read The Bulge with that in mind, but that's because I think she's probably going to leave or have her partner forcibly removed before the final few pairings

Dunnstral · Post Post #2578 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:42 am

In post 2524, MariaR wrote:
In post 2522, deleuzional wrote:
In post 2486, MariaR wrote:If Oka is town I'm sending that pair to end game and probably leaving so Oka loses all cred and isn't allowed to make any more anti town awful reads this game tbh.
do you think fire is town then?
Fires reaction to Oka seems pretty townie to me

OK, I see this. This isn't convincing to me.

Isis · Post Post #2579 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:44 am

I'm not happy with my vote

Dunnstral · Post Post #2580 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:45 am

MariaR can you focus on getting a more thorough read on Firebringer, and that's your half, and my half of that pair to explain is OkaPoka, who I am seeing as town

Isis · Post Post #2581 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:45 am

I just remembered I'm an idiot

this setup punishes scum instead of town when you fail to meet deadline, I worked that out last dance game and forgot about it

That makes DDDGB elimination dumb

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Isis · Post Post #2582 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:47 am

that feeling when you roll IC but you are bad at town

Dunnstral · Post Post #2583 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:48 am

In post 2579, Isis wrote:I'm not happy with my vote

The problem is we're going for a level of confidence that isn't feasible

I think a better way for looking at this game is to force more people into consideration, so if you were to make a reads list, who would the bottom 3 be? And then cross out anybody who is low activity, and who are you left with

Dunnstral · Post Post #2584 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:49 am

And also don't consider Beeboy.

My BOTTOM 3 where I have to commit to something but I'm not certain:

Hectic
Firebringer
The Bulge

Dunnstral · Post Post #2585 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:50 am

There are people who think Hectic is town, and a few people who think Firebringer is town (which I want to talk more about), but nobody who thinks The Bulge is town

Isis · Post Post #2586 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:54 am

I'm confused how it works, the Bulge is low activity, so shouldn't she be crossed out?

I think I townread Bulge, Shelly, and MariaR the least (but I'm like, proxy townreading MariaR)

Dunnstral · Post Post #2587 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:56 am

In post 2586, Isis wrote:I'm confused how it works, the Bulge is low activity, so shouldn't she be crossed out?

Yeah, but I didn't follow what I just said, but I've kind of been saying to not eliminate them

Isis · Post Post #2588 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:58 am

VOTE: Ydrasse

Dunnstral · Post Post #2589 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:59 am

In post 2588, Isis wrote:VOTE: Ydrasse

Now, see, that doesn't appear to be a part of your bottom 3 reads

deleuzional · Post Post #2590 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:00 am

VOTE: beeboy

Isis · Post Post #2591 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:03 am

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deleuzional · Post Post #2592 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:04 am

Oh I’m sorry, I just assumed from your last vote that we were doing trollvotes instead of actually playing seriously

Isis · Post Post #2593 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:06 am

2196 and 2188 are scumposts and leuz is probably misreading his partner

Dunnstral · Post Post #2594 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:08 am

In post 2591, Isis wrote:aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Let's narrow it down some more then, let's put the AtE aside for a moment: The only information we have is that Pooky flipped scum, and DGB/DD flipped town. All the rest is interactions, which while great, I'm hesitant to fully trust some pairs who only seem to be town for their reactions to flips rather than their participation to flips - we've done very little so far, despite the game length.

From a neutral perspective, if such a thing exists, I think the town should decide to eliminate one of the following pairs today:

deleuzional-Ydrasse
hectic-ShellyC

deleuzional · Post Post #2595 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:14 am

Sure, it should be shelly-hectic bc ydrasse and I should endgame

deleuzional · Post Post #2596 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:15 am

In post 2593, Isis wrote:2196 and 2188 are scumposts and leuz is probably misreading his partner

Why are they scumposts bc I’m p sure I’m not misreading her

Dunnstral · Post Post #2597 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:17 am

Here, I'll cast my lot:

VOTE: deleuzional-Ydrasse

I'm being more open to the idea of Ydrasse being scum, I'm considering Maria/Bulge being both town and mafia when looking at her posts, I think she looks pretty bad if they are both town, but passable as a partner if they have scum in them (expecially if it's The Bulge and she doesn't expect him to live long)

You guys remember 2282? The mafia energy thing. yeah that was a joke, but it shows Ydrasse was reading the thread but not talking at the time. She hopped into the thread to correct me for something that actually wasn't a slip on her part, but I'm scumreading that because it seems like a caught for wrong reasons sort of vibe, where she was confident she could get out of it, but really her sitting on the sidelines itself was pretty questionable.

Townreading her because of her reaction to Pooky being scum

after

Pooky had already flipped, which she had no stake in at all, is giving her way too little credit, I feel.

Dunnstral · Post Post #2598 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:22 am

In post 2596, deleuzional wrote:
In post 2593, Isis wrote:2196 and 2188 are scumposts and leuz is probably misreading his partner
Why are they scumposts bc I’m p sure I’m not misreading her

I don't think you can realistically be confident to the extent you are projecting in your read on Ydrasse when she:
-Wasn't involved with Pooky flip
-Wasn't really involved with DGB/DD to a large degree

So what you're reading her off of is her reacting to Pooky after he had died, I don't put any weight in that part at all, that doesn't even look town to me for one. And what, is she whispering in your ear in the pt about how Hectic, the guy arguing against you in the thread, she doesn't like that guy, but she won't voice this in the thread. Or what? What's going on in there?

Isis · Post Post #2599 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:23 am

2196 has this tone that sounds more like it's commiserating that a fun to hang out with slot is an optimal mislim rather than commiserating that maybe someone she likes rolls scum. There's a scummy inconsistency in the post, where she indicated she doesn't expect she can allow the pairing to last pair, but then later she says she hopes the slot starts townspewing. From a scum perspective it would mean she has an excuse to play more with a pairing she enjoys, but from a town perspective it would mean the pairing moves into the grey area where it doesn't feel right to kill it but also maybe you lose the game if you don't kill it which emotionallly ydrasse shouldn't be craving