Epilogue! - [Endgame]

[deleuzional]

I think I should be but whatever

Can we not just flip the deeply underwhelming hectic-shelly couplet instead? (And you yourself have said this is the better way to play this setup!)

Or alternatively, if you wanna flip a slot where you think one is scum despite the other being town, why not fire-oka?

[deleuzional]

Can you not maybe just trust me on my partner read? Given that you think I’m town and I’m telling you VERY loudly that I think she’s town

[Isis]

aaaaaaaaaaaa

[deleuzional]

It’s probably good you rolled IC and not me actually bc I think I would have insisted you die and I appreciate that you are at least talking to me

However, just screaming isn’t good enough, can u actually change your vote and start telling other people (such as your PT lapdog) to vote hectic-shelly

Also, you never said if I answered correctly on the coffee question

[deleuzional]

I’m standing by hectic-shelly is the best flip if you want a pair where either/both could be scum

Fire-oka is best if you want the most likely pair to contain /a/ scum

[deleuzional]

@maria when you get here next can you please tell isis how much fire looks like scum!fire from JK9++ on a scale of 1-10 where 1 is not at all and 10 is literally their ISOs are identical

[Isis]

VOTE: shelly because the coffee question was right

[Isis]

mena would be wolfreading me so hard if I wasn't confirmed

it's so funny

[deleuzional]

Tbf ive literally wolfread you when you were playing in the same slot as me and i knew it was town

[Isis]

i laughed aloud

[deleuzional]

Have I ever not wolfread you isis? I’m thinking back and I genuinely think it might be every game we’ve ever played together

AvP, Plum’s micro, I want to say I thought you were scummy but just not as bad as skitt in that newbie... and actually now I’m not sure that we’ve played *together* that often

Pedit: good, encouraging

I think I’m gonna go now bc I feel like I’ve talked a lot this game and continue to do so and probably allowing others to speak more is healthy *nods*

[Hectic]

Neither of them is going to obvtown this game

Neither of them is ever going to get to a position where they’re a good endgame pair

We should eliminate them now

Why do you keep arguing these things. I'm still really unsatisfied with the reasons you've been giving, it's really, really tempting to OMGUS you

doesn't shelly prefer scum though

yeah, shelly would probably be efforting more as scum

Oh, this is not the most recent post

[Hectic]

I still think shelly is playing to her townmeta. I've yet to see a scum!shelly game like this one; one where she's not aggressively pushing her scumreads are arguing with people. Her tone is also more relaxed and casual than her scumgame, where she's very blunt and antagonising. This

could

be the game where she turns that meta all around, but I'm not betting money on it.

VOTE: maria-bulge

Neither has given me reason to think they're town.

I still think Fire is sus and his reaction to Oka didn't convince me.

uh, question: shelly said in 2431 that she was playing different to her meta intentionally. does that have an impact on you reading her? it feels like her outright stating that would like, nullify something like this a bit. granted she can't change it all in a single game (if she can okay then damn go off) but, yeah.

Yeah, she can say she's changing it, and do think she's making an effort to, but I'd be impressed if she were scum here and has changed as many aspects of it as she would've here.

I've seen shelly play a lot of scumgames; Death Curse, Morning Tweet's Normal, Manatee's Large, her newbie game with Noraa, and comparing any of those games with her play here is light and day. She would've had to changed a lot, that's what I mean. I've gone over the differences a few times now.

[Isis]

Hectic you play too much mafia stahp

[Hectic]

she just rolls scum a lot... it's not my fault

[Isis]

Death Curse

she just rolls scum a lot... it's not my fault

GOTTEM
VOTE: Hectic

[Hectic]

I don't get it

[Isis]

cause you rolled the dice for the alignment rand for Death Curse.. which makes it your fault shelly was scum.. it's funny... don't make me feel lousy Hectic..

[Isis]

VOTE: Fire

[Hectic]

lol I see

[Hectic]

Isis, what's your read on leuz? As far as I can tell, he's trying to push this through with pure WIM/determination, it's really weird how he's arguing for this so much when he doesn't actually, or at least hasn't made a case for shelly/I being scum.

He thought shelly scummy because nothing out of scumrange.
He though I was scummy because of the alt outing to Pooky theory, and that you scumread me.

You then thought I townslipped for that same alt outing theory, which should impact both reasons leuz had for reading me, but he has not updated or let that impact his read whatsoever

[Hectic]

I still have zero read on either of Maria or Bulge, probably should ISO them

leuz, is the "secret" that it's a policy thing because you feel you can't work with me when we're both town?

@leuz

@@leuz

[Hectic]

Isis, you’re familiar with hectic and Shelly— do either of them actually seem very interested in playing this game?

Why is this argument being used for Hectic-shelly, when MariaR-Bulge both have far fewer posts and interest in playing?

hectic-shelly (who are both null-to-scum, neither one has towntold)

If your argument is both of us haven't towntold and have little less than average motivation to play, then why is this not being applied to the other two?

It would make my top hat wither if this is scum!leuz who manages to push a miselim through with the reasons he's been giving

[deleuzional]

I still have zero read on either of Maria or Bulge, probably should ISO them

leuz, is the "secret" that it's a policy thing because you feel you can't work with me when we're both town?

@leuz

@@leuz

Bruh, I think I already answered this to the extent that I’m willing to, and I already told you I’m not fully expanding on the things behind my read on you whether you like it or not

[deleuzional]

Why is this argument being used for Hectic-shelly, when MariaR-Bulge both have far fewer posts and interest in playing?

Different baseline expectations