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Post Post #3100 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:41 pm

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Read up to this page. Bookmark.
I'm signing off this game for the night. Have other things to do. See everyone on the other side in a world called tomorrow :D
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Post Post #3101 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:41 pm

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In post 3097, Cobra Kai wrote:Why do we need a different Guillotina case?
Not making one, but reading through yours/Cabds and actually being able to engage with it instead of being a worthless real-time spitballer

I'm down to flip Noraa basically anytime though
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Post Post #3102 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:41 pm

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In post 2860, Cobra Kai wrote:Compromising on a wagon in 48 hours that you spend most of your iso arguing against?

Okay bear.
this is a pretty decent call out
tbh thinking about it my idea about conftown Guillo isn't great, as it could have just been setting up a fakeclaim, but that seems a bit advanced? Not saying Guillo is too noobish to do it, but it feels a bit ehhhh if that's the case.
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Post Post #3103 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:46 pm

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In post 3102, Gamma Emerald wrote:Not saying Guillo is too noobish to do it, but it feels a bit ehhhh if that's the case.
We've established that slot is not a newbie.

Remember?
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Post Post #3104 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:46 pm

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In post 3100, Noraa wrote:Read up to this page. Bookmark.
I'm signing off this game for the night. Have other things to do. See everyone on the other side in a world called tomorrow :D
i understand this looks horrendous but this literally confirms noraa as scum for me
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Post Post #3105 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:46 pm

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Gamma isn’t reading recent he’s still some pages back.
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Post Post #3106 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:46 pm

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In post 3101, REAGAN BUSH 84 wrote:
In post 3097, Cobra Kai wrote:Why do we need a different Guillotina case?
Not making one, but reading through yours/Cabds and actually being able to engage with it instead of being a worthless real-time spitballer

I'm down to flip Noraa basically anytime though
You staying up for this? because painkillers and pain say I'll be awake.
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Post Post #3107 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:48 pm

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In post 2884, Cobra Kai wrote:A wagon rolecop sounds like a scum ability.
strong maybe but scum? Especially as described?
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Post Post #3108 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:49 pm

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In post 3103, Cabd wrote:
In post 3102, Gamma Emerald wrote:Not saying Guillo is too noobish to do it, but it feels a bit ehhhh if that's the case.
We've established that slot is not a newbie.

Remember?
Yeah I know Guillo ain't a noob, in fact didn't he say he wasn't a stranger to this site? In fact if I'm right about that I'd REALLY like someone to refer me to that post because I see a SERIOUS issue with it.
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Post Post #3109 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:50 pm

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In post 3106, Cabd wrote:
In post 3101, REAGAN BUSH 84 wrote:
In post 3097, Cobra Kai wrote:Why do we need a different Guillotina case?
Not making one, but reading through yours/Cabds and actually being able to engage with it instead of being a worthless real-time spitballer

I'm down to flip Noraa basically anytime though
You staying up for this? because painkillers and pain say I'll be awake.
Yeah, grabbing a soda and pulling it up now, shouldn't even be a big deal it's literally 17 posts but I'm slow as fuck and my brain definitely doesn't wanna work in dialed-in focus mode rn

after that TBD but let me know if you want to talk about any other slots with me, i'm also not that big of a priority atm though
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Post Post #3110 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:52 pm

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I literally don't mind which we eliminate at this point btw.

I'm just burnt out from Mafia for a few days I think. :(
Never had to deal with this feeling before. I usually pace myself better.
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Post Post #3111 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:56 pm

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In post 2908, midwaybear wrote:Not sure what you were expecting there Dunnstral
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Post Post #3112 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:56 pm

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In post 3110, Bell wrote:I literally don't mind which we eliminate at this point btw.

I'm just burnt out from Mafia for a few days I think. :(
Never had to deal with this feeling before. I usually pace myself better.
mood

i have a headache

im going to watch some anime be back later
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Post Post #3113 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:58 pm

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In post 3109, REAGAN BUSH 84 wrote:
In post 3106, Cabd wrote:
In post 3101, REAGAN BUSH 84 wrote:
In post 3097, Cobra Kai wrote:Why do we need a different Guillotina case?
Not making one, but reading through yours/Cabds and actually being able to engage with it instead of being a worthless real-time spitballer

I'm down to flip Noraa basically anytime though
You staying up for this? because painkillers and pain say I'll be awake.
Yeah, grabbing a soda and pulling it up now, shouldn't even be a big deal it's literally 17 posts but I'm slow as fuck and my brain definitely doesn't wanna work in dialed-in focus mode rn

after that TBD but let me know if you want to talk about any other slots with me, i'm also not that big of a priority atm though
Yeah mmkay I'll be up for a while.
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Post Post #3114 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:58 pm

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In post 2914, Noraa wrote:My characters name is like Poopie something or another. I forgot. One sec. Lemme go find the pm.
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Do you have a decent knowledge of the main characters of the game the flavor is based on, yes or no? This is a question to EVERYONE currently pushing Noraa.
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Post Post #3115 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:58 pm

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In post 3108, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3103, Cabd wrote:
In post 3102, Gamma Emerald wrote:Not saying Guillo is too noobish to do it, but it feels a bit ehhhh if that's the case.
We've established that slot is not a newbie.

Remember?
Yeah I know Guillo ain't a noob, in fact didn't he say he wasn't a stranger to this site? In fact if I'm right about that I'd REALLY like someone to refer me to that post because I see a SERIOUS issue with it.
He explicitly stated he was not a stranger to the three headed hydra.
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Post Post #3116 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:59 pm

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I think I'm at least semi-obligated to explain my read on Guillotina since they replaced out and there's a wagon on them or something.

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In post 1398, Guillotina wrote:I'm definitely not voting Cakez today. The guy is getting pushed based on an evidence claim that Cabd cannot present due to site's rules.
In other words, if they cannot be presented they don't exist! Imagine if we could convict people based on non corroborated proof in real life! A lot more people would be in jail!

We gotta take his word for it? Like hell I will, I don't know this guy!

We either find real evidence to yeet Cakez or vote someone else.

Good night!
I think this only looks bad in hindsight because Cakez was scum.
In post 1685, Guillotina wrote:
In post 1639, Noraa wrote:
In post 1394, Bell wrote:@cabd we could all easily be wrong. :P
This post pings scum.
Your post pings scum.

Not only because you didn't elaborate why in the same post, so the intention was not bring awareness but to shade, but it also raises some questions.

Do you think we could all not be easily wrong? If so, why?

What information do you have to assume all people could be right? And if you think everyone could be right why did you vetoed Sircakez yeet?

For the record: im not saying everyone could be right or wrong, im saying that Bell got a point and throwing shade at Bell for it is scummy.

VOTE: Noraa
This post pinged me a little, but I like how he defended Bell from Noraa. This wasn't a good push from Noraa, and Noraa's explanation regarding the semantics is something I'd expect more from scum than town.

There is also a direct and incisive tone that reads town to me, which is why I said it generally reads town to me when I actually read the words.
In post 1885, Guillotina wrote:
In post 1751, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Cabd if Cakes flips town you die tomorrow okay?
In post 1752, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:That isn't a deal, it's just a promise.
That hell is this? A death sentence? If cakes flips green it does not mean Cabd is immediately scum. Town can be wrong. We put him under scrutiny and if he does not measure up we yeet him.

VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta
In post 1896, Guillotina wrote:
In post 1765, Cabd wrote:I will self-vote tomorrow if I'm wrong, which will reveal my info in a mod-confirmed way and put us down two town plus whoever dies to night kill but whatever. At least you'll have all the info. And see exactly why I am doing what I am doing.


Cakez man I am sorry RNG fucked you over bud but like, we can hug after your team shoots me night one in the dead thread and make up and play footsies.
If you are this sure to bet your own life on it by compromising to self-vote. I'll bite.
If he flips green with an important ability, i'll be mad. Crown Prince level mad.

VOTE: SirCakez
These posts look weird when juxtaposed because he pretty much did exactly what he accused LLD of doing, but I don't really see hypocrisy as a scumtell since I see townies guilty of it all the time.

I do think at last one of LLD are scum here, but I'm leaning slightly less on Guillotina.

Now, the one problem that had me suspicious is the fact all of his votes are against Cakez, Nora, and LLD. And they are very committed and incisive, and for things I myself wouldn't think would warrant a fade on their own. So if there is a Cakez/Nora/LLD team, I'd be a little bit more wary of this slot.
In post 2923, Guillotina wrote:WTF! If you guys think that i am scum because i made the mistake of defending what seemed like an LHF being bullied by a power player then you got it all wrong!!! Im town. I was not a lurker on Day 1, it implies i've been in the game but not engaging which is not true. I signed up to a game that is supposed to last 10 days per day phase which adjusted to my work schedule and free time but it ended in a day!! If i knew i was signing up for a blitz game i wouldn't have sign up at all.

Now it's Saturday night and I already got plans, so if this game does not end in 12 hours, we can talk, but I'm town!! My only sin was feeling empathy for someone I thought was being bullied!!
I don't consider this guy to be a lurker by any means. His activity is healthy when you realize the posting habits of the players in this game aren't (120 pages generated in two days or so of play).

Now, my scumread is partially dependant on a Newbie tell, but it's been established they aren't one. So I don't put much stock in it. I have enough qualms with this slot that I wouldn't stop his lynch, but I don't really feel like voting him.
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Post Post #3117 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:00 pm

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In post 3114, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2914, Noraa wrote:My characters name is like Poopie something or another. I forgot. One sec. Lemme go find the pm.
Survey time.
Do you have a decent knowledge of the main characters of the game the flavor is based on, yes or no? This is a question to EVERYONE currently pushing Noraa.
im not going to repost cabds post

ill let him do it himself
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Post Post #3118 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:00 pm

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In post 3114, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2914, Noraa wrote:My characters name is like Poopie something or another. I forgot. One sec. Lemme go find the pm.
Survey time.
Do you have a decent knowledge of the main characters of the game the flavor is based on, yes or no? This is a question to EVERYONE currently pushing Noraa.
Vaguely wasn't he like a bad guy traitor merchant silly fellow.
I barely remember the plot.
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Post Post #3119 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:01 pm

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In post 2923, Guillotina wrote:WTF! If you guys think that i am scum because i made the mistake of defending what seemed like an LHF being bullied by a power player then you got it all wrong!!! Im town. I was not a lurker on Day 1, it implies i've been in the game but not engaging which is not true. I signed up to a game that is supposed to last 10 days per day phase which adjusted to my work schedule and free time but it ended in a day!! If i knew i was signing up for a blitz game i wouldn't have sign up at all.

Now it's Saturday night and I already got plans, so if this game does not end in 12 hours, we can talk, but I'm town!! My only sin was feeling empathy for someone I thought was being bullied!!
okay nah I'm fine killing this
the AtE is too damn STRONG
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Post Post #3120 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:02 pm

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Nope, was wrong. That was somebody else.

Those triple exclamation points were a scum claim imo.
Regardless of role pm.
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Post Post #3121 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:04 pm

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In post 3118, Bell wrote:
In post 3114, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2914, Noraa wrote:My characters name is like Poopie something or another. I forgot. One sec. Lemme go find the pm.
Survey time.
Do you have a decent knowledge of the main characters of the game the flavor is based on, yes or no? This is a question to EVERYONE currently pushing Noraa.
Vaguely wasn't he like a bad guy traitor merchant silly fellow.
I barely remember the plot.
Wasn't who? Cakez's flavor? Iirc Akhos is part of a group of legit bad dudes
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Post Post #3122 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:05 pm

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In post 2924, Cabd wrote:hell, Bork randomzies all flavor, the main characters could be scum for all he cares.
FOR REAL?
Dunn might need to specify how his role makes flavor relevant
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Post Post #3123 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:06 pm

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In post 3114, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2914, Noraa wrote:My characters name is like Poopie something or another. I forgot. One sec. Lemme go find the pm.
Survey time.
Do you have a decent knowledge of the main characters of the game the flavor is based on, yes or no? This is a question to EVERYONE currently pushing Noraa.
Have you shared a mod PT with bork before?

He has a VERY specific method of determining alignments and fakeclaims.


Here's how this game went down with near certainty:

Step 1: generate 22 town aligned flavor names
Step 2: Put those in alphabetical order
Step 3: Put that list into the list randomize function on random.org. The top 5 are now mafia fakeclaims.
Step 4: Design the roles and rest of the game
Step 5: Get 22 players to sign up.
Step 6: Put the player lsit in alphabetical order
Step 7: Put that list into the list randomize function on Random.org, the top five names are mafia.
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Post Post #3124 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:08 pm

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In post 3123, Cabd wrote:Step 1: generate 22 town aligned flavor names
Step 2: Put those in alphabetical order
Step 3: Put that list into the list randomize function on random.org. The top 5 are now mafia fakeclaims.
Step 4: Design the roles and rest of the game
Step 5: Get 22 players to sign up.
Step 6: Put the player lsit in alphabetical order
Step 7: Put that list into the list randomize function on Random.org, the top five names are mafia.
Solid method imo.

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