Epilogue! - [Endgame]

[shellyc]

regardless i think ydrasse just did her town thing

p-edit: yes

[Akarin]

maybe it's the nature of the setup that like, you vote for pairs sometimes and it's not going to feel the best but it's still the optimal move but it doesn't feel good to me and i don't know how to play this setup, lord help me

I mean, I think that's definitely true, but that wagon has felt weird to me for a while.

I think with DGB-DD that was totally true though. We just weren't really moving past them until we flipped 'em.

What do you think of my argument about going for not!Last Pairs instead of both non-towny?

[Ydrasse]

maybe it's the nature of the setup that like, you vote for pairs sometimes and it's not going to feel the best but it's still the optimal move but it doesn't feel good to me and i don't know how to play this setup, lord help me

I mean, I think that's definitely true, but that wagon has felt weird to me for a while.

I think with DGB-DD that was totally true though. We just weren't really moving past them until we flipped 'em.

What do you think of my argument about going for not!Last Pairs instead of both non-towny?

i honestly don't know, like, i'd rather just flip scum obviously. i guess it makes sense but right now i'm kinda frustrated with just. the game and not being able to find scum >_>

[shellyc]

3302 is a townpost

i have stopped doubting ydrasse

[shellyc]

not!lastpair probably is mariabulge, okaFB

not sure about others

[Bell]

i'm obviously town

bell is overly obtuse in a way that i sorta dislike?

Sorta?

a lack of strong towntelling that i can see from you two

have i actually towntold as town before

I'm not sure. You really are playing totally different to the point it's disconcerting in its own way.

[shellyc]

bell i used to TR you for reasons i have forgot

[Bell]

Something something curiosity something.
It wasn't a good reason.

[shellyc]

hectic repeated his "shelly is metatown" 100 times and you poke him about it which seems busywork-ish and your point is "be more paranoid/less sure" when hectic isn't portraying *that much confidence* on me? hectic HAS doubted me in pt/thread?

[Bell]

Why wouldn't I poke him about it?
I can't read your PT.

[Akarin]

not!lastpair probably is mariabulge, okaFB

Like you can't imagine ever trusting Maria-Bulge or Oka-FB to that level no matter what they did in Dance 2?

On FB is that just meta stuff or something else?

[Bell]

maybe it's the nature of the setup that like, you vote for pairs sometimes and it's not going to feel the best but it's still the optimal move but it doesn't feel good to me and i don't know how to play this setup, lord help me

I mean, I think that's definitely true, but that wagon has felt weird to me for a while.

I think with DGB-DD that was totally true though. We just weren't really moving past them until we flipped 'em.

What do you think of my argument about going for not!Last Pairs instead of both non-towny?

i honestly don't know, like, i'd rather just flip scum obviously. i guess it makes sense but right now i'm kinda frustrated with just. the game and not being able to find scum >_>

Have you tried looking under the coach.

[shellyc]

Why wouldn't I poke him about it?
I can't read your PT.

because its been made clear

i gave the tl;dr of my pt in many different places

[shellyc]

not!lastpair probably is mariabulge, okaFB

Like you can't imagine ever trusting Maria-Bulge or Oka-FB to that level no matter what they did in Dance 2?

On FB is that just meta stuff or something else?

i don't really think so, maybe if all 4 were declared ICs

fire also has that lack of exciting/different takes to the thread and lack of pushing the takes

[Gamma Emerald]

No matter how I look at it, I can't imagine a world where both Gamma and Bell town it up enough that I'm free enough of paranoia about both of them as far as the end of pre-dance stuff with Pooky goes. As much as my actual scumread is more on TaylorEmerald, it's actually Bell that makes me more paranoid, with Pooky's seeming to just give up at the end there.

I did replace in so I have minimal attachment to this game p much, so if you wanna lim me for paranoia or whatever, fine, but I also don’t want it to feel cheap? Like you need to define whether you actually think there’s a chance me or Bell is scum, or what you’re paranoid about

[Gamma Emerald]

objectively i don't think it's gamma. like, giving up your scum partner (who is like, quite good at being charming/good at pocketing, and probably moreso than bell?) for a town person, and then having to rely on said townperson to towntell enough that people can accept you moving onward? that's a big fucking gamble to make, you know? and if you're picking your scum partner out of two, i... personally, i think it makes more sense to pick the person who might be able to get townread more, yeah? (not to disparage you bell!!)

This is a good thought process imo

[Bell]

What does making it already clear have to do with poking him about it?
The point of poking is to poke and see what happens.
Nothing really fell out though except he's aggro.

[shellyc]

What does making it already clear have to do with poking him about it?
The point of poking is to poke and see what happens.
Nothing really fell out though except he's aggro.

which is the point

you're doing things that have not much risk and not much town!reward

[Akarin]

if you wanna lim me for paranoia or whatever, fine, but I also don’t want it to feel cheap? Like you need to define whether you actually think there’s a chance me or Bell is scum, or what you’re paranoid about

Um, I did.

And the logic of all of this is about the way the setup plays out anyway. I'm arguing we should be eliminating the pair that we can't imagine being un-paranoid about enough to ever make Last Pair no matter what, rather than "most scummy."

So that's like inherently different than your categorizing this as "limming you for paranoia"

[Gamma Emerald]

Ydrasse is town
Akarin probably is too

[Gamma Emerald]

not!lastpair probably is mariabulge, okaFB

not sure about others

Why Claire + bulge

[Bell]

if you wanna lim me for paranoia or whatever, fine, but I also don’t want it to feel cheap? Like you need to define whether you actually think there’s a chance me or Bell is scum, or what you’re paranoid about

Um, I did.

And the logic of all of this is about the way the setup plays out anyway. I'm arguing we should be eliminating the pair that we can't imagine being un-paranoid about enough to ever make Last Pair no matter what, rather than "most scummy."

So that's like inherently different than your categorizing this as "limming you for paranoia"

Isn't this just another way of saying you want whoever's the towniest dance pair to make it to the end.

[Akarin]

btw, Gamma, can you please be sure to

never

give your top-non-Isis town read pair until after the Intermission?

[Akarin]

Isn't this just another way of saying you want whoever's the towniest dance pair to make it to the end.

I mean that's literally the game isn't it?

But I'm saying that's a different thing than voting for who is least-town/most-scum right now.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah Bell has a point
That’s a rather circuitous way of expressing that idea