Epilogue! - [Endgame]


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Post Post #3350 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:01 pm

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mariar- i can't read i am just gonna admit that. i think one of her and dunny is scum tho. leaning dunny at the moment.
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Post Post #3351 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:05 pm

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when did u start leaning on dunny
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Post Post #3352 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:54 pm

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UNVOTE:

*sigh*
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Post Post #3353 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:54 pm

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In post 3333, Akarin wrote:
In post 3331, Bell wrote:Because you can imagine them being last pair?
Why?
At this point it feels like you're just being deliberately dense.
You’re being obtuse, unintentionally.
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Post Post #3354 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:55 pm

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FB if your read on me is based on my predecessor I won’t be mad. I promise.
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Post Post #3355 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:57 pm

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Imo solving the LAST PAIR should really start happening around second dance? That’s where I’ve always noticed that discussion picking up in last games.
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Post Post #3356 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:57 pm

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In post 3343, Bell wrote:
In post 3338, OkaPoka wrote:as fun as it is to argue about theory, i just want to jump in here and ask for a full readslist from you bell
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??? Beeboy. Bulge


#3340 he did say he enjoyed it.
Why are Akarin and hectic so low
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Post Post #3357 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:02 pm

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I declare V/LA until Thursday my time
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Post Post #3358 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:29 pm

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In post 3356, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3343, Bell wrote:
In post 3338, OkaPoka wrote:as fun as it is to argue about theory, i just want to jump in here and ask for a full readslist from you bell
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??? Beeboy. Bulge


#3340 he did say he enjoyed it.
Why are Akarin and hectic so low
where is my lovely partner @bell
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Post Post #3359 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:31 pm

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In post 3347, Bell wrote:Every list I make I'm legally required to forget one person.
Probably a little above Akarin. She mooded the game state some.
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Post Post #3360 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:31 pm

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Can we kill someone now?
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Post Post #3361 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:59 pm

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oh, it's if the game runs out of time, not if a phase runs out of time. So performing no eliminations in dance1 does still have the highest value
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #3362 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:00 pm

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i'm doing catchup but that has a funny relationship with what happened to be the last post in the thread >_<
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #3363 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:01 pm

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In post 3361, Isis wrote:oh, it's if the game runs out of time, not if a phase runs out of time. So performing no eliminations in dance1 does still have the highest value
whats the difference between game and phase
so we lose if we run out in phase two

btw I'll still be able to read some stuff
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Post Post #3364 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:06 pm

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Yeah we lose if we run out of time in dance2. I interpreted "game" to mean, the aggregate of the mechanics the game has to offer you, but it's supposed to be, the amount of time the game offers you, which is 26 days minus hammer shortenings.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #3365 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:17 pm

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In post 3318, Akarin wrote:
In post 3314, Gamma Emerald wrote:if you wanna lim me for paranoia or whatever, fine, but I also don’t want it to feel cheap? Like you need to define whether you actually think there’s a chance me or Bell is scum, or what you’re paranoid about
Um, I did.

And the logic of all of this is about the way the setup plays out anyway. I'm arguing we should be eliminating the pair that we can't imagine being un-paranoid about enough to ever make Last Pair no matter what, rather than "most scummy."

So that's like inherently different than your categorizing this as "limming you for paranoia"
technically though we should not be limming at all lol
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Post Post #3366 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:17 pm

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VOTE: Isis
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #3367 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:06 am

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:/
Why shouldn’t we lim
We’ve already done so once so this seems like a bridge too short.
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Post Post #3368 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:09 am

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it was a mistake the first time I just frogot
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #3369 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:10 am

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But like, the idea is tainted now >:/
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Post Post #3370 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:18 am

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I get what you're saying but that's purely psychological

also why don't you have a dragalia avatar
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #3371 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:18 am

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the new one is fine tho
dunno what it's from
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Post Post #3372 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:20 am

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No Dragalia avi because it doesn’t exactly feel right rn. But Sunny D Pipple is saved to my phone for future use if I want to use it again.
Current one is from Homestuck.

And like, could you walk me through the optimal part of no limming that isn’t ruined atp?
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Post Post #3373 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:25 am

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The point of no-limming is that the mafia can never accidentally kill the person who actually would have been the second pair-lim of the game
If we hadn't limmed at all, that statement would be able to say "first".

The second one is more meaningful though, I think the gamestate is flat enough that there's some value to no-limming.
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Post Post #3374 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:26 am

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If there was a super obvious consensus T-T pair we could just be like "nothing we do changes the NK" and would just get to spilling wine
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"

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