Epilogue! - [Endgame]

[FakeGod]

Hectic has asked for replacement.

[deleuzional]

Hectic has asked for replacement.

:/

[Gamma Emerald]

If there was a super obvious consensus T-T pair we could just be like "nothing we do changes the NK" and would just get to spilling wine

Ok this might be fair

[OkaPoka]

the only major downside of not executing is the time constraint where me might need to chain suicide and well that does favor scum

[Isis]

I'm really upset that Hectic has repped out

[The Bulge]

so uhh moral of the story is pt sucks

stop being wrong in the middle of making good points

ok moral of the story is PT sucks for town but is incredibly good to win if you are scum, in fact when was the last time someone used the PT to come to the conclusion that their partner was scum? I can list a few examples where town cleared scum with the pt or where town false guiltied town because of the pt

bonk

[deleuzional]

I am probably not going to do much more unless I start feeling like it again

[The Bulge]

VOTE: MariaR-The Bulge

I don't think The Bulge is towny when he comes in and posts

I actually kinda liked bulge’s catch-up

Also, uh, do you have a pronoun preference @bulge?

not really!

[The Bulge]

Okay, one more time.

I don't townread Maria right now. I'm trusting Dunn on that. I don't townread Bulge right now. Does anyone?

I

can

imagine a universe where both Maria and Bulge say and do stuff in the rest of today and in Dance 2 where I end up townreading them enough that I'd be okay with them being Last Pair. That's not where we are now, and I'm not saying it's even likely, but I can see it happening.

On the other hand, I

can't

imagine GammaBell as a pair that I could be happy with being Last Pair,

no matter how the rest of today and Dance 2 play out.

So I'm saying it makes more sense to eliminate you now, rather than Maria-Bulge (for example.)

I'm not sure how you can make this kind of stance as town? is it like, gammabell is so far gone at this point that theres no coming back? so then what makes both of our pairs null? why, specifically, are we redeemable when gammabell is not?

[The Bulge]

I feel like I'm not really in this game, and I'm not sure what I can even do to fix that for everyone.

[Isis]

make sure you're an active participant in the targeting of the factional nightkill

[The Bulge]

I don't know how easy itll be to get them off of you

[The Bulge]

but I'll put in a good word

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: mariar - bulge

[FakeGod]

Hectic has asked for replacement.

Chemist1422 replaces Hectic.

[The Bulge]

is it because I scumclaimed?

[Chemist1422]

good evening

[OkaPoka]

is it because I scumclaimed?

no

[OkaPoka]

good evening

Predance:

We've had four "lol-proposals"

deleuzional - Ydrasse
DrippingGoofball - Doctor Drew
MariaR - The Bulge
OkaPoka - Firebringer

All happened in a few hours with like no communication.

Beeboy-Isis (IC pairing), beeboy has gone afk and is just leashing vote to Isis for dance 1.

Dunn-Akarin was probably the most natural pairing.

Then we had a bit of fuckery where taylor wanted to pair with hectic, and shelly ends up quickly sniping hectic and letting taylor pick the final pair, she did suggest taylor kill pooky which ended up happening and pooky was scum.

Dance 1:

basically dgb/dd gets pushed off the start since they lolpaired and went afk. mainly pushed by dunn and mariaR.

So looking at how people who were off wagon acted around it:

Oka

is by far the

least

suspicious. He calls the wagon lame, votes Maria. Argues a bunch that we should flip other people first. He

does

call them inevitable, but also calls the wagon semi-policy and actually argues with both Shelly and FB that they should be voting Oka-FB instead of DGB-DD. He doesn't like DGB's reentrance or Dunn push and thought it was weird people were townleaning her for it. Oka scumread it. But then doesn't like the "caught for the wrong reasons" suggestion from Ydrasse and isn't sure what makes sense in DGB-scum world. He sheeps Isis onto Shelly, implies it's a pressure vote, then gives Drew a deadline but suggests hammering anyway. Firebringer beats him to it.

Deleuze

doesn’t look too bad. He fought with DGB about her scumread of him, first being unjustified and then the case itself. I thought DGB was being ridiculous here too, it doesn't feel like shading. He defended Drew about the signup thing, actually saying it made him

more

towny. For a bit he wasn't sure if DGB was scum and kind of soft defended her. Thought Drew's be back later post was scummy. He wanted to flip either DGB-DD or Oka-FB but hadn't voted yet, and at this point thought DGB and Oka were both townish, just not their partners. The DGB town read strengthens and Deleuze doesn't like the wagon or the way it seems pre-determined. But thinks Drew is scummy. His first vote of the day is to sheep Isis & Oka onto Shelly-Hectic, then he votes Drew 1 minute after Firebringer hammered.

Both

Bell

and

Bulge

did post a decent amount while the wagon was a thing, neither mentioned it at all.

Taylor

actually has the worst interactions with the DGB/DD wagon if we're looking off-wagon: She voted DGB-DD at the start of the day, right after Dunn. Shelly follows her onto the wagon, a wild FB appears and votes Maria, then Taylor moves her vote to FB. (Oka was also on Maria-Bulge.)

Taylor says this

dgb why are you so confident drew is town? because as i see it youre defending yourself/being aggressive, but most people suspect drew and youre pseudo-defending him without really mentioning him

then DGB says she isn't confident Drew is town but wants time to read him. At which point Taylor follows DGB onto Deleuze. She pushes Deleuze a bit more that afternoon, says it's not a meme and she does scumread him. Doesn't want to talk about the reasons but encourages other people to join her on Deleuze. Suggests it's a DGB,Maria,Delueze team after DGB votes Dunn.

i really like these posts as a tl;dr for the dgb/dd wagon mainly because im town

is a summary of some off wagon stuff if you want to click around.

it happened all in 36 hours fwiw, some weirdness may be fire hammering when edged on by maria (and fire SRs maria). dd never really posted. dgb basically said dunn is scum and dipped.


should take you up to here:

VoteCount 1.5

deleuzional - Ydrasse [0] -
MariaR - The Bulge [0] -
OkaPoka - Firebringer [0] -
beeboy - Isis [0] -
Dunnstral - Akarin [0] -
Hectic - shellyc [0] -
Bell - Tayl0r Swift [0] -

Not Voting [14]

- deleuzional, Hectic, MariaR, Dunnstral, Bell, beeboy, OkaPoka, Isis, Tayl0r Swift, Akarin, The Bulge, Ydrasse, shellyc, Firebringer

With 14 alive it takes 8 votes to execute

.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2020-11-26 02:40:05)

here is something for you to speed up the catchup

[Chemist1422]

okay thank you

between that and the conversations between hectic and shelly i think i have a decent grasp on gamestate already

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.12

deleuzional - Ydrasse [0] -
MariaR - The Bulge [4] - shellyc, Chemist1422, Dunnstral, OkaPoka
OkaPoka - Firebringer [0] -
beeboy - Isis [1] - Isis
Dunnstral - Akarin [0] -
Chemist1422 - shellyc [3] - MariaR, deleuzional, Ydrasse
Bell - Gamma Emerald [2] - Firebringer, Akarin

Not Voting [4]

- beeboy, The Bulge, Gamma Emerald, Bell

With 14 alive it takes 8 votes to execute

.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2020-11-26 02:40:05)

[Chemist1422]

i don't want to kill tayl0rslot yet if they pretty much doomed pooky

I think even if beeboy is scum he's pretty much locked into townsiding and that pair is worth keeping alive

and I liked shelly's PT posting enough to not want to vote myself today and also duh

UNVOTE: Maria/Bulge

[Akarin]

I'm not sure how you can make this kind of stance as town?

Do you think I'm more likely to make this kind of stance as scum?

[OkaPoka]

lots of who you don't, how about who you do

[Chemist1422]

lots of who you don't, how about who you do

im getting to that pls