Epilogue! - [Endgame]

OkaPoka · Post Post #3600 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:09 pm

like most of my questions were followups because i was puzzled by the answer... i wanted to chain questions, but like lol idek dude, maybe it would be a lot of work if gamma was going to read the entire thread but i mean he's doing it pine style so he should want these interactions to get an understanding of the game? i don't understand...

OkaPoka · Post Post #3601 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:12 pm

In post 3599, Bell wrote:Like, I got super duper annoyed with you ten times.
I just know not to get mad at people who I think are prolly town.

Gamma asked me to push you both so I just did.
My heart isn't really in it tho. I still think you're town.
Or at least, pretty good scum.

Pedit: Are you Noraa, that's about as damning as a marshmellow.

this is my main

OkaPoka · Post Post #3602 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:12 pm

i have one alt and its not noraa

Bell · Post Post #3603 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:13 pm

In post 3600, OkaPoka wrote:like most of my questions were followups because i was puzzled by the answer... i wanted to chain questions, but like lol idek dude, maybe it would be a lot of work if gamma was going to read the entire thread but i mean he's doing it pine style so he should want these interactions to get an understanding of the game? i don't understand...

Pretty sure he doesn't want to interact with you only?

Bell · Post Post #3604 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:14 pm

In post 3602, OkaPoka wrote:i have one alt and its not noraa

Twas' a joke comparison.
Though the quality is about the same.

OkaPoka · Post Post #3605 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:14 pm

it flew over my head because who is noraa

i mean the burning question is why is gamma scumreading me for putting pressure on him. we got bogged down but that's the interesting question

OkaPoka · Post Post #3606 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:16 pm

now that im thinking of it its a really interesting question because i guess i can now understand why you would hate me for it or be annoyed at me for it, but scumread me for it? that's a new one. i know people have weird reasons to scumread but that's a new one

Bell · Post Post #3607 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:17 pm

He's scum reading FB,
I think you going away is just the cherry on top.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #3608 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:18 pm

In post 3595, OkaPoka wrote:
In post 3592, Gamma Emerald wrote:Eh. I felt like Oka’s methods didn’t match with the practical results. But I think there’s a point in how some people react differently. What portion of players do you think would react in the way you’d be able to sort, Oka?
Gamma, okay, I didn't want to continue this conversation partially because I realize I misunderstood you but also now I have to ask:

Did I really ask you of something to elicit this strong emotional reaction? Like I don't feel like I asked any hard questions? I just wanted shit on the PT, that's all. There is a burden of work, yes, but like... cmon. It's a dance game.

I was going to provide, just on my own time. IRL I hate being pressed to do something one a stricter timetable than I myself want to. I could talk on this at length but it’s be a lengthy title about IRL stuff so I’ll spare the details, but know not doing it now doesn’t mean I’m never doing it.
So the emotional reaction probably comes from experiencing the same thing you’re doing IRL and having bad memories of it.

OkaPoka · Post Post #3609 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:18 pm

In post 3607, Bell wrote:He's scum reading FB,
I think you going away is just the cherry on top.

sigh

you guys talking in PT?

OkaPoka · Post Post #3610 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:20 pm

why am i asking rhetorical questions. time for round 2, what else are you guys talking about in the PT... and do i need to cite old games to why this is not a fantastic idea

OkaPoka · Post Post #3611 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:25 pm

wait

why is gamma asking you to push me?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #3612 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:25 pm

In post 3599, Bell wrote:Like, I got super duper annoyed with you ten times.
I just know not to get mad at people who I think are prolly town.

Gamma asked me to push you both so I just did.
My heart isn't really in it tho. I still think you're town.
Or at least, pretty good scum.

Pedit: Are you Noraa, that's about as damning as a marshmellow.

You don’t have to be convinced someone is scum to push them. Oka does have decent motives here. It’s just not exactly the type of deal I cotton well to, and in my displeasure I probably mistook town impetus for scum malice. To be specific, Oka’s play to push me is similar to what I wanted you to do. Oka and me both wanted to push people to get them to generate content. I just sorta took a half-passive approach, by encouraging you to do it alongside me rather than do it alone.

Also, I don’t think Bell expresses doubts here as scum, the play would probably be to feed my suspicion. Bell is definitely taking a mediator role here.

OkaPoka · Post Post #3613 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:27 pm

why did you ask bell to push me and not duel me 1v1

Bell · Post Post #3614 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:27 pm

A little.

Just back and forth questioning each other.

He asked me for some reasoning on my reads on Dunstral and an explanation of why I thought how DGB was using her too manytown reads town tell to hit Dunstral pinged me. While I felt Drew didn't really have a good reason to accept dancing with DGB without getting a firm no from Hectic. Felt rushed, it was but it wasn't AI turned out.

I asked him if he aTe's as scum mid-this conversation. No response yet.

He can summarize the other parts if he wants, I'm okay with that. But I don't want to step on his toes by outting more info than he wants outted about who he wants to live till the end/his reads etc.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #3615 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:28 pm

In post 3613, OkaPoka wrote:why did you ask bell to push me and not duel me 1v1

Because two people equals more pressure. Seems obvious to me.

OkaPoka · Post Post #3616 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:28 pm

bell why did you consent to helping gamma push me when im your top townread

@gamma okay what happened to your theory about knives and being nice

Bell · Post Post #3617 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:29 pm

In post 3613, OkaPoka wrote:why did you ask bell to push me and not duel me 1v1

-_-
He's literally right next to me talking to you alongside me. Does it look like he's hiding behind me?
I just decided I could be wrong so offered to push one or both of you and see if anything fell out.

FakeGod · Post Post #3618 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:29 pm

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deleuzional - Ydrasse [0] -
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OkaPoka - Firebringer [2] - Bell, Gamma Emerald
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Chemist1422 - shellyc [3] - MariaR, deleuzional, Ydrasse
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OkaPoka · Post Post #3619 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:30 pm

bell have you pushed anyone else this game?

Bell · Post Post #3620 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:32 pm

I don't like getting comfy with my reads and I haven't really pushed at you previously anyway and as you just mentioned some scum players play well at their own tempo, but might not when that rhythm is interrupted. Couldn't hurt. I'm glad I did.

OkaPoka · Post Post #3621 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:33 pm

In post 3619, OkaPoka wrote:bell have you pushed anyone else this game?

Bell · Post Post #3622 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:33 pm

In post 3619, OkaPoka wrote:bell have you pushed anyone else this game?

Akarin and Hectic? Did you forget

OkaPoka · Post Post #3623 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:33 pm

In post 3622, Bell wrote:
In post 3619, OkaPoka wrote:bell have you pushed anyone else this game?
Akarin and Hectic? Did you forget

maybe im misremembering the details, could you link me where you pushed them?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #3624 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:34 pm

In post 3616, OkaPoka wrote:bell why did you consent to helping gamma push me when im your top townread

@gamma okay what happened to your theory about knives and being nice

That’s for when people are replacing in or in a similar position of not being fully keyed in to the situation. Pushing someone in that situation puts them on the back foot which taints their posting. Once they are given a chance to post naturally that’s when the knife can be revealed.