Mini Theme 2176: Jake's Grand Idea (Post Game)

[MathBlade]

I mean N1 into D2.

There’s one last piece that doesn’t make sense.

[Nono]

can go Doubting, don’t mind at all, think fake claim doesn’t make sense from town perspective,, and role was self claim, so it’s like self meta,, “convenient” “self manipulative” if you will,,

what is “sam 100% scum” etc what!!!!!!

This also doesn’t make sense with a town wizard. Your roles would synergize. If you were town wizard you’d have more reason to believe him not less.

grand idea roles, are random?? synergy what?!

don't claim fixed roles, don't diss the jake

[Nono]

Didn't trust Doubting,, reasons outlined, it's w/e, it's out there

[MathBlade]

Roles which are made by me in the Grand Idea Mafia thread are automatically in the role pool. In addition, during the pre-game all players will send me 1 to 3 pages within the Grand Idea Mafia thread. This will constitute the final roles to be picked from.
There is guaranteed to be no more than 2 anti-town factions.

^^ From the signup post.

Not random.

Still doesn’t change the fact if you didn’t trust him you still strongman him and see who he kills. If he claims blocked after being strongmanned it’s a guilty.

[ManWithNoName]

claim town wizard

targeted sam,, trusted sam so oops xD, switched after to maths after betrayal

give me time,, i'll solve the game, maybe

Who did you target night 2, then?

[ManWithNoName]

If anyone

[Starbuck]

Without stating your role, is it possible that another mechanism could make it seem like you were roleblocked?

I find it highly unlikely scum target you for a roleblock.

This was my thought. I didn't think sam would target Galron of all people on N1. I don't remember the claim of her targeting Galron at all. I see the claim of it happening is there, but it bothers me that it didn't stick out on my read.

However, there is the chance that DT lied about shooting as he did with the N0 result. It's all WIFOM, but there's a chance that he holstered on N1 to bluff scum and sam wasted an RB on someone who wasn't shooting. This whole business of targeting Galron could be a lie (because she flipped scum) and depending on what Galron claims, he could be in cahoots with sam.

can go Doubting, don’t mind at all, think fake claim doesn’t make sense from town perspective,, and role was self claim, so it’s like self meta,, “convenient” “self manipulative” if you will,,

what is “sam 100% scum” etc what!!!!!!

This also doesn’t make sense with a town wizard. Your roles would synergize. If you were town wizard you’d have more reason to believe him not less.

grand idea roles, are random?? synergy what?!

don't claim fixed roles, don't diss the jake

This Grand Idea isn't random due to the below quote which I was going to go get from the sign up post anyways.....

Roles which are made by me in the Grand Idea Mafia thread are automatically in the role pool. In addition, during the pre-game all players will send me 1 to 3 pages within the Grand Idea Mafia thread. This will constitute the final roles to be picked from.
There is guaranteed to be no more than 2 anti-town factions.

^^ From the signup post.

Not random.

Still doesn’t change the fact if you didn’t trust him you still strongman him and see who he kills. If he claims blocked after being strongmanned it’s a guilty.

[Galron]

Shoot 'em up hoss.

I'm a vig. Not an X-shot. So when I said that I think Sam roleblocked me, I think she was telling the truth because I tried to shoot her N1. I wanted her to be the elimination D1.

N2 I took a shot at Plusjoy to test that claim, so my guess is Plus is telling the truth.

[Galron]

This was my thought. I didn't think sam would target Galron of all people on N1. I don't remember the claim of her targeting Galron at all. I see the claim of it happening is there, but it bothers me that it didn't stick out on my read.

However, there is the chance that DT lied about shooting as he did with the N0 result. It's all WIFOM, but there's a chance that he holstered on N1 to bluff scum and sam wasted an RB on someone who wasn't shooting. This whole business of targeting Galron could be a lie (because she flipped scum) and depending on what Galron claims, he could be in cahoots with sam.

If this were true, that would mean I would have been bussing the hell out of Sam both Day 1 and Day 2. (absent the DT holstering, which I guess could have happened). I guess I need to re-read that sequence again because that whole N1 kill puzzled me, and we never got an answer from Jake about the alien thing did we?

[Galron]

claim town wizard

targeted sam,, trusted sam so oops xD, switched after to maths after betrayal

give me time,, i'll solve the game, maybe

Where is your role in the grand idea thread? What exactly does wizard do?

[MathBlade]

This was my thought. I didn't think sam would target Galron of all people on N1. I don't remember the claim of her targeting Galron at all. I see the claim of it happening is there, but it bothers me that it didn't stick out on my read.

However, there is the chance that DT lied about shooting as he did with the N0 result. It's all WIFOM, but there's a chance that he holstered on N1 to bluff scum and sam wasted an RB on someone who wasn't shooting. This whole business of targeting Galron could be a lie (because she flipped scum) and depending on what Galron claims, he could be in cahoots with sam.

If this were true, that would mean I would have been bussing the hell out of Sam both Day 1 and Day 2. (absent the DT holstering, which I guess could have happened). I guess I need to re-read that sequence again because that whole N1 kill puzzled me, and we never got an answer from Jake about the alien thing did we?

Shoot 'em up hoss.

I'm a vig. Not an X-shot. So when I said that I think Sam roleblocked me, I think she was telling the truth because I tried to shoot her N1. I wanted her to be the elimination D1.

N2 I took a shot at Plusjoy to test that claim, so my guess is Plus is telling the truth.

claim town wizard

targeted sam,, trusted sam so oops xD, switched after to maths after betrayal

give me time,, i'll solve the game, maybe

Who did you target night 2, then?

Man with no name? Your claim?

VOTE: Unvote

[MathBlade]

claim town wizard

targeted sam,, trusted sam so oops xD, switched after to maths after betrayal

give me time,, i'll solve the game, maybe

Where is your role in the grand idea thread? What exactly does wizard do?

It makes anyone who does kills strongman.

[MathBlade]

I don't scum read doubting thomas. The whole N0 thing is a non-starter imo

Galron why did you not scumread DT if you’re a town vig?

[MathBlade]

This was my thought. I didn't think sam would target Galron of all people on N1. I don't remember the claim of her targeting Galron at all. I see the claim of it happening is there, but it bothers me that it didn't stick out on my read.

However, there is the chance that DT lied about shooting as he did with the N0 result. It's all WIFOM, but there's a chance that he holstered on N1 to bluff scum and sam wasted an RB on someone who wasn't shooting. This whole business of targeting Galron could be a lie (because she flipped scum) and depending on what Galron claims, he could be in cahoots with sam.

If this were true, that would mean I would have been bussing the hell out of Sam both Day 1 and Day 2. (absent the DT holstering, which I guess could have happened). I guess I need to re-read that sequence again because that whole N1 kill puzzled me, and we never got an answer from Jake about the alien thing did we?

No. What Starbuck said could be true without you having to be bussing Sam.

And let’s not go into the whole “let’s assume DT lied”. I think there’s a simple answer for this.

Just it sucks. I kinda wanna see Man with no name’s claim to be sure.

[ManWithNoName]

I'm a Town naive cop, so, I'm fucking useless. I get town on every investigate.

[Galron]

I don't scum read doubting thomas. The whole N0 thing is a non-starter imo

Galron why did you not scumread DT if you’re a town vig?

The last one of these I played in, there was a double role, or at least they were allowed or something. And as I was looking through the pages I saw vig listed a couple of times along with several variations, so I didn't think a whole lot about it. Yeah, this is a different game, but same concept.

[ManWithNoName]

Basically, I figured I'm vanilla town from the actual use of my role.

[Galron]

This was my thought. I didn't think sam would target Galron of all people on N1. I don't remember the claim of her targeting Galron at all. I see the claim of it happening is there, but it bothers me that it didn't stick out on my read.

However, there is the chance that DT lied about shooting as he did with the N0 result. It's all WIFOM, but there's a chance that he holstered on N1 to bluff scum and sam wasted an RB on someone who wasn't shooting. This whole business of targeting Galron could be a lie (because she flipped scum) and depending on what Galron claims, he could be in cahoots with sam.

If this were true, that would mean I would have been bussing the hell out of Sam both Day 1 and Day 2. (absent the DT holstering, which I guess could have happened). I guess I need to re-read that sequence again because that whole N1 kill puzzled me, and we never got an answer from Jake about the alien thing did we?

No. What Starbuck said could be true without you having to be bussing Sam.

And let’s not go into the whole “let’s assume DT lied”. I think there’s a simple answer for this.

Just it sucks. I kinda wanna see Man with no name’s claim to be sure.

I was responding more to the suggestion of me being in cahoots with Sam.

[ManWithNoName]

Wait, so, would Galron have then caused the death of ABR and Tayl0r?

[ManWithNoName]

Or whoever replaced Tayl0r.

[Galron]

Wait, so, would Galron have then caused the death of ABR and Tayl0r?

By shooting at Plus?

[Galron]

I didn't even think of that. You may be right.

[ManWithNoName]

Wait, so, would Galron have then caused the death of ABR and Tayl0r?

By shooting at Plus?

Yeah, because Plus was lovers with Albert and Swift slot was lovers with Albert as well...

Basically, I'm confused how that would resolve with lovers and a bulletproof claim.

[Galron]

But TL said that he triggered, so what random townie did he kill?

[ManWithNoName]

Effectively bulletproof, elimproof, etc.

I'm hitting submit too fast.