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Post Post #3775 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:28 pm

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Post Post #3776 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:28 pm

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In post 3764, Menalque wrote:how weird her night action choices were
Why were they bad?
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Post Post #3777 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:28 pm

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In post 3771, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:Hi Mena

is there any chance you would post 800 times as scum?

just say no.

~Pooky
Err probably could manage that yeah but it’d be a struggle

I think I already mentioned that in my last high WIM scumgame I had less posts in 5 weeks than I have here in about 3 but still
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Post Post #3778 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:29 pm

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how dumb would it be if i threw away everything i've said until now to attempt a last minute flashwagon
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Post Post #3779 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:29 pm

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Post Post #3780 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:30 pm

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In post 3776, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3764, Menalque wrote:how weird her night action choices were
Why were they bad?
Who targets infinity and uncrowned at those points lmao

Lili’s whole thing was “I don’t really get mechanics” but lili is smart and no matter how busy she was she’s the sort of person I would expect to have skimmed the wiki article for play advice which is v clearly “use it as a doctor until scum numbers are down” yet every time she had to justify it it was “i was trying to hit scum” — despite that being ESPECIALLY bad as a play when we all thought there was a doc in the game meaning it was v unclear if she’d saved or blocked
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Post Post #3781 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:31 pm

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VOTE: S_S

Sorry skitter
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Post Post #3782 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:31 pm

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oh no Mena suspected Lili?

how could you after that beautiful romance you two had!?

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Post Post #3783 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:32 pm

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Post Post #3784 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:33 pm

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Mena why did you just switch to SS as soon as Peta mentioned ISOing SS?
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Post Post #3785 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:33 pm

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In post 3780, Menalque wrote:lili is smart and no matter how busy she was she’s the sort of person I would expect to have skimmed the wiki article for play advice which is v clearly “use it as a doctor until scum numbers are down” yet every time she had to justify it it was “i was trying to hit scum”
That's a great idea in a game where scum are probably aiming for PR's and everyone knows who the PR's are.

Hell, if she'd tried to save skitter she probably would have gotten herself killed.
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Post Post #3786 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:34 pm

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In post 3782, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:oh no Mena suspected Lili?

how could you after that beautiful romance you two had!?

Meeeeeeennnnnnnnnaaaa
I know but in my defence she was very scummy? And also I (now foolishly, although Dunn may have been even worse guillobait so maybe not that foolishly) pushed for dunn over her so i wasn’t totally heartless
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Post Post #3787 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:35 pm

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In post 3784, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:Mena why did you just switch to SS as soon as Peta mentioned ISOing SS?
Because I think I townread peta now lmao
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Post Post #3788 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:35 pm

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In post 3786, Menalque wrote:I know but in my defence she was very scummy? And also I (now foolishly, although Dunn may have been even worse guillobait so maybe not that foolishly) pushed for dunn over her so i wasn’t totally heartless
This does not feel like the gallant noble town!Mena I know and love :(
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Post Post #3789 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:35 pm

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I don't understand what your point is. You think she was making pro-scum actions and trying to give town explanations? Or you think she doesn't know how she'd use a JK as town, but you know somehow?
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Post Post #3790 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:36 pm

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Well this doesn’t feel like town!pooky which.. would normally imply that you’re town, but normally you’re trying to pocket me not looking for excuses to guillotine me sooooo
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Post Post #3791 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:36 pm

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In post 3787, Menalque wrote:Because I think I townread peta now lmao
which post did it for you? :]
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Post Post #3792 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:37 pm

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In post 3790, Menalque wrote:Well this doesn’t feel like town!pooky which.. would normally imply that you’re town, but normally you’re trying to pocket me not looking for excuses to guillotine me sooooo
uh if this was scum!Pooky you'd already be in my pocket chilling :]
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Post Post #3793 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:37 pm

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In post 3789, Something_Smart wrote:I don't understand what your point is. You think she was making pro-scum actions and trying to give town explanations? Or you think she doesn't know how she'd use a JK as town, but you know somehow?
I think her actions conflict with what I would expect of a town!JK which is to try and make saves not to create a shitton of ambiguity in the gamestate by generating ambiguous guilties and softclears
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Post Post #3794 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:38 pm

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Thing is, I trust my reads when I’m engaging people most. And s_s felt very “town but not trying to look it” when I engaged him. Whereas when I engaged peta he...didn’t.
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Post Post #3795 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:39 pm

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In post 3793, Menalque wrote:I think her actions conflict with what I would expect of a town!JK which is to try and make saves not to create a shitton of ambiguity in the gamestate by generating ambiguous guilties and softclears
This is silly.

JKs should aim for blocks, not aim for saves.

Blocks create guilties - its like nobody would expect this person to be NK'd.

Saves create ambiguity - if a save is actually a block, it means you cleared somebody bad.
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Post Post #3796 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:39 pm

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They conflict with what you think is best play. But bad does not equal scum.
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Post Post #3797 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:40 pm

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And furthermore doing what you suggested is way more pro-scum if she is scum JK... she can just block PR's, kill elsewhere, and go "oh I was trying to protect them."
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Post Post #3798 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:41 pm

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In post 3727, petapan wrote:
In post 3725, Menalque wrote:
In post 3713, Something_Smart wrote:Menalque Infinity peta I guess, but I don't have to feel good about it.
I feel like S_S using mechanics to justify voting me when the mechanics are weak evidence for me being scum is fairly +scum for him, ftr

because I feel like S_S, despite his earlier protestations to the contrary, knows my towngame well enough to know by this point that this is it, despite his respect for my scumgame
and you're voting me here because...?
In post 3729, petapan wrote:so this is purely based in a hypothetical rather than any actual reasoning toward me being scum. got it.

VOTE: menalque
In post 3730, petapan wrote:like what a garbage reason. pure dogshit.
In post 3734, petapan wrote:
In post 3731, Menalque wrote:I mean it's really gonna vindicate me when you red
not happening
In post 3743, petapan wrote:
In post 3739, Menalque wrote:I mean, it is unless you find it very compelling that there's more than 1 scum in the redirector pool that we've looking at which I think is unlikely
i legit do not know who is scum otherwise
In post 3757, petapan wrote:it sure would be nice if smoke and mirrors would show up at some point
In post 3758, petapan wrote:i'm just looking back at day 2 now
In post 1872, Menalque wrote:do you really think the intentional no-kill is a likely scenario, as in, at all?
why was this suddenly something you became insistent on today when you kept trying to get votes on lilith?
In post 3760, petapan wrote:
In post 3759, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:@Mena why are you in such a rush?
In post 3756, the worst wrote:Deadline: 1 day, 7 hours, 45 minutes
probably that is why
In post 3766, petapan wrote:i'd really prefer to not not wait until the last possible minute, although i understand your position isn't great, i
really
would like for you to at least be open about what you're thinking, you don't have to go ito detail but i want to hear something
All of this resonated with me and felt like he was really trying to solve/towny indignation at being scumread for a bad reason/the “well I’m not” when I said I’d vindicated with his redflip had towny “you’re a fucking idiot” energy which is not clearing as scum can make those posts but like idk if peta is that good at scum tonally and in conjunction with the other bits it really feels more like town

There’s one big thing giving me pause which is the post he made a page ago trying absolve Dave but mostly he feels confused and a bit frustrated and tired and trying to put things together and finding they don’t fit. Which is, uh, my feelings almost to a T
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Post Post #3799 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:42 pm

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In post 3798, Menalque wrote:All of this resonated with me and felt like he was really trying to solve/towny indignation at being scumread for a bad reason/the “well I’m not” when I said I’d vindicated with his redflip had towny “you’re a fucking idiot” energy which is not clearing as scum can make those posts but like idk if peta is that good at scum tonally and in conjunction with the other bits it really feels more like town

There’s one big thing giving me pause which is the post he made a page ago trying absolve Dave but mostly he feels confused and a bit frustrated and tired and trying to put things together and finding they don’t fit. Which is, uh, my feelings almost to a T
have you never played with scum!peta before?

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