Mini Normal 2180 | Mafia PT

[midwaybear]

I don't think anyone realistically believed that Shoshin was a PR, so I don't think I will net any results there. I guess I can skim for softs now.

Ico uses activated informed

We can discuss what else he could also use

[petapan]

most people in this game are too good to soft, they could conceivably crumb but i never bother reading for those either

tbh, if iconeum gets back, i was going to ask if he feels he'd be able to pocket datisi in a hood because if so that's the best use of his JOAT abilities, imo

[midwaybear]

Ohh good idea
Then I guess we can just kill someone from off the wagon.

[petapan]

mmmm there's no

amazing

kills off-wagon

DV used to have a reputation as a good player, doesn't play all that often these days. would feel kind of mean killing him off n1 though. cakez i can probably get on my side, nora is ML-able.

on-wagon baltar isn't a bad kill but i think i kind of want to kill alisae

[midwaybear]

lol that's even meaner
Why do you want to kill Alisae?

[petapan]

petapan kills alisae

sorry alisae can't have you shaking up the gamestate, would've loved you in the game under different circumstances

[petapan]

lol that's even meaner
Why do you want to kill Alisae?

replacements can shake up the game with a fresh perspective + people didn't really scumread unwnd (at least in my impression, correct me if i'm wrong). right now people are locked into their biases after that day 1, if someone who wasn't a part of it comes in they might view things with more clear eyes

[petapan]

like to me the absolute best kill is one you think you'll never be able to get a wagon on

[petapan]

which i guess is not necessarily alisae, but. meh.

[midwaybear]

Hmm, facts about replacements being able to shake things up. Especially true for someone like Alisae.

[midwaybear]

Might want to rolecop someone N1. If Ico is neighborizing Datisi, there's no point in role-copping him.
Maybe someone like innocentvillager. It's weird that he's playing against his general meta, but I'm not sure if it is PR indicative.

[petapan]

we...don't have a rolecop. you're a rolestopper, which is some weird role that prevents people from targeting someone with night actions. it is not one that was popular back when i first played.

[Iconeum]

Welcome ! You are the members of the

Mafia

, you may talk in this factional PT at any time your roles are :

Midwaybear : Mafia Novice 1-shot Rolestopper
Iconeum : Mafia Night 1-2 JOAT (Neighborizer ; Alien : Rolecop ; Watcher ; Activated Informed)
Petapan : Mafia Informed (knows that Iconeum is a Mafia Night 1-2 JOAT With an activated informed ability that tells them all the modifiers owned by town power roles)

yeap

'normal' game

sounds about right

[Iconeum]

finding out i'm scum in this playerlist

[Iconeum]

wait it's N1 already?

i thought i only missed just about my weekend vla

[Iconeum]

40 pages over a weekend

[Iconeum]

Neighborizer ; Alien : Rolecop ; Watcher ; Activated Informed

Neighborizer: If I use this, it's on datisi. Town!Ico would Always do that on Datisi. It *might* backfire, but it probably wont. Strong use.
Alien: whatever. Situational.
Rolecop: potentially strong *if* we find a pr and *if* we manage to kill it (cop, blocker etc)
Watcher: meh
Activated Informed: reminds me of Anna Kournikova. Looks good. Never wins. What is the net gain here? Some information. Probably doesn't really do much until later in the game. Potentially N2 stuff.

[Iconeum]

NB + RC are the strongest N1 options here.
I know i've missed the opening phase, but otoh I was just on weekend vla. Town's own fault to rush a day end.

If it's ok with you guys i'm going for the NB on datisi.

[Iconeum]

i'll probably claim 1-shot NB to them and work from there

have them 'get me in the game and sOlve'

[Iconeum]

I use my neighbourizer shot on datisi

unless my scumteam says otherwise

[Iconeum]

as for the kill, i've not read the game yet. I might skim it.
up to you

[Gypyx]

Registered

[Iconeum]

holy lord of dragons that shoshin character

i'd have gone monkeyballs on them (if i was town), which means i'd have to have faked going full monkeyballs on them

good thing i missed the weekend lol

[Iconeum]

ok from my experience, Alisae is a lot scarier when scum vs when town. From the playerlist, ABR is probably the strongest solver?
Noraa's a good player, but lacks certain elements. My job is to pocket datisi.
GE is probably high up on the scary list. SirC as well.

If you wanna off alisae, be my guest. If I'd recommend someone just by playerlevel, i'd go with someone in SirC, GE or ABR.
On top of that Alisae is going to create a LOT of noise and spam, which is a great place to hide in as scum. OTOH, if they smell a scent, they will *NOT* let go. And that's an understatement.

[Iconeum]

petapan kills alisae

sorry alisae can't have you shaking up the gamestate, would've loved you in the game under different circumstances

this is probably somethign i agree with

i read ABR iso and shoshin iso, looks like town was in quite the shape at the end of day