In post 1674, Spangled wrote:Like I was going to say there, you’re not ‘my target’, I’m not trying to convince others that you’re scum, I’m trying to figure out whether you’re scum or not.
Like, I’m not trying to string you up, at the moment. I’m trying to talk to you about your actions, and ask you to explain them. I’m not talking to anyone else because, a) what does that get me as regards you? I’m not
sure
that you’re scum, and b) you’re the only around at the moment.
I proved myself a coward, who would desert a dying man.
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I have had a bit of a combative tone, I apologise. As I’m sure you can imagine, being more or less universally scumread tends not to help how one feels about the game and the people in it. But I am trying to engage with you in good faith.
I proved myself a coward, who would desert a dying man.
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Check out 15.ai, it does generated voices for characters and it’s pretty neat.
In post 1667, safebet222 wrote:As for the rest of your post... I wouldn't expect anything less than you defending your actions. Thankfully, I don't have to convince you that you are scum, I have to convince the others. Most of them laid out reasons that your slot is scummy.
I'm just trying to remind them of those reads and add to the narrative.
In post 1674, Spangled wrote:
And you’ve mentioned others’ arguments for me being scum — can you point to the ones you agree with, please?
I'm not going to have time to dig them all up, unfortunately. They are posts mostly saying how your slot's play is off. Egix has been reading your slot as scum all game, so Iso'ing egix is a good start. Here are a few posts from 72 I have notes on (sorry no links)..
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Here's one from Mizzy, practically calling it out..
In post 1676, Spangled wrote:I have had a bit of a combative tone, I apologise. As I’m sure you can imagine, being more or less universally scumread tends not to help how one feels about the game and the people in it. But I am trying to engage with you in good faith.
I'm not sure I trust you that your weren't trying to bait me into a shit-show 1v1. I think I've answered enough of your questions.
Nonetheless, I do agree that you must be in an uncomfortable position.
In post 1667, safebet222 wrote:As for the rest of your post... I wouldn't expect anything less than you defending your actions. Thankfully, I don't have to convince you that you are scum, I have to convince the others. Most of them laid out reasons that your slot is scummy.
I'm just trying to remind them of those reads and add to the narrative.
Er... isn't that what scum would be doing though?
I'm not sure... I mean doesn't it depend on the game? FMPOV... we've got our votes on probable scum now... if all of my town reads at one point of the game or another pointed to reasons why that slot is bad, shouldn't I point to them and add my own pieces to the fold?
IDK... If you haven't noticed, I'm not really good at this. I thought I was supposed to convince people that my scum read should get voted.
In post 1657, safebet222 wrote:I skimmed FF's iso, Mizzy. I don't quite see where FF was ready to vote Spangled, or where FF particularly pushed for a Spangled elim... She played her scum reads pretty close to her vest. You know, "Welcome to Fferyland."
Nevermind Mizzy, I found it. Post 1100. I suppose I didn't pay much attention to 72 when he was so angry at getting wagoned. I'll have to reread that whole part again.
In post 1667, safebet222 wrote:As for the rest of your post... I wouldn't expect anything less than you defending your actions. Thankfully, I don't have to convince you that you are scum, I have to convince the others. Most of them laid out reasons that your slot is scummy.
I'm just trying to remind them of those reads and add to the narrative.
Er... isn't that what scum would be doing though?
I'm not sure... I mean doesn't it depend on the game? FMPOV... we've got our votes on probable scum now... if all of my town reads at one point of the game or another pointed to reasons why that slot is bad, shouldn't I point to them and add my own pieces to the fold?
IDK... If you haven't noticed, I'm not really good at this. I thought I was supposed to convince people that my scum read should get voted.
Okay, I think I see what you mean now. I just felt a bit twinged by the phraseology there.
PS: You can link posts simply by putting (post) tags around the number.
In post 1674, Spangled wrote:
And you’ve mentioned others’ arguments for me being scum — can you point to the ones you agree with, please?
I'm not going to have time to dig them all up, unfortunately. They are posts mostly saying how your slot's play is off. Egix has been reading your slot as scum all game, so Iso'ing egix is a good start. Here are a few posts from 72 I have notes on (sorry no links)..
In post 1674, Spangled wrote:
And you’ve mentioned others’ arguments for me being scum — can you point to the ones you agree with, please?
I'm not going to have time to dig them all up, unfortunately. They are posts mostly saying how your slot's play is off. Egix has been reading your slot as scum all game, so Iso'ing egix is a good start. Here are a few posts from 72 I have notes on (sorry no links)..
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Here's one from Mizzy, practically calling it out..
“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,
In post 95, cylstar wrote:I voted c4 because I didn't necessary like his tone as other people have said. I am considering voting 72 since he seems to be quite defensive. Can someone tell me if that is more scummy?
You didn't say that though. Your reasoning could totally be read as "this is my rvs vote, I only just figured out how to do it."
It totally was an RVS vote, but the thing that tipped me towards c4 was the reason i stated before. When choosing someone to vote, I don't actually use a random generator or something.
I am sorely tempted to vote Mizzy but I feel like they are more town.
UNVOTE: c4 VOTE: AGamblingPig
This is another RVS vote. Most of the other players I feel are somewhat towny.
Is one of these the scum hop on and off or is it egix?
In post 1653, safebet222 wrote:The last point is that it strikes me as strange the Egix mostly votes when asked... it happened several times, maybe 4. He only vote one time that I could find without prompting. Anyone else find this strange? Not sure if its AI.
Yeah, I usually don't vote until I'm very confident.
In post 1653, safebet222 wrote:
51 I'm not sure what this post refers to. It seems really out of place...
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And looking at FF's post above makes me think that Cyl's #51 was intended for the Scum PT.
Personally I always interpreted it as following on from her previous post - it was the figuring out how to format a vote that took her five minutes.
Nevertheless,
VOTE: Spangled
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It's nearly always just him. FMPOV the only other person it could be is safebet, but if so he's played a really clean game since I don't think I ever saw anything particularly scummy from safebet.
This feels like a scum hop on
The other two early game slots just kinda look town to me??
End of last day I had some real concerns that he just kinda fit, but it bugs me more now that he and ff were both on muh EoD2. I feel like they can avoid that and get 72 elimmed there. It would also mean both scum were on muh EoD1 until hammer, EoD2 and killed him N2 which just doesn't make sense for what he was putting into the game.
I'm ok with going over safebet tomorrow. Between Egix and Spangled I think I prefer elimming Egix right now. Partly cos I know I have biases and a low poster like Egix is gonna have a hard time not gettng voted by me in a final situation. But also because of my line of questioning today about a few inconsistencies. I don't think his position on 72 makes sense, and while I liked the direction of some of his day 3 posts on day 3, he was null up to that point. I'd also like to say there is maybe something in Spangled not voting 72 but he was V/LA so probably not.
I wish I'd asked what took 72 from thinking Spangled is town after he claimed to almost jailkeeping there but it was a short twilight.
