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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:35 pm

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Vote Count 2.6With 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to eliminate.

superbowl9
(3): Flavor Leaf, hessian, NoPowerOverMe
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(2): OutWorldER, Alchemist21
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(1): Battle Mage
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(1): superbowl9

Not Voting
(3): wiyvern, Rannygazoo, Non lmh

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(expired on 2020-12-08 11:55:42).


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I am using Thesp's automated votecounter - please notify me if there are any errors.
Non lmh has (expired on 2020-12-01 11:55:42) to post substansive content before I begin to search for a replacement.
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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:36 pm

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I wouldn't be against a BM wagon but I like where I am and I'm wondering why BM is focusing on me and not SB9.
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:37 pm

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In post 750, TheGoldenParadox wrote:Non lmh, wiyvern, and hessian have 0 days, 15 hours, 19 minutes to post substansive content before I begin to search for a replacement.
Surely hessian is ok by now
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:38 pm

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Why the unvote titus?
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:39 pm

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i'm so demotivated by this game right now. it feels like we have good players but nobody is really trying. Titus browbeating me over nothing whenever I post anything is...essentially what she did in her last game with me as town. we have experienced players who could be orchestrating a clever strategy, lurky players being given a free pass, and openly scummy players being given a free pass. In that context, it's difficult to get any useful info to evaluate anyone. Superbowl is the closest thing we have to ending the day and moving on, but he feels like a second-rate elim. really the only reason to elim him is the dodgy claim and apathy. /rant over

my top scumread is hessian. aint gonna get it. :facepalm:
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:40 pm

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In post 753, superbowl9 wrote:Why the unvote titus?
i'll go out on a limb and say it's Titus trying to be unconventional and deciding that as soon as a good reason to vote you comes up, that's the time to unvote.
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:40 pm

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Explain why town would target a high probability night kill to give fruit too?
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:41 pm

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Im fine with being the elim because honestly if I'm not the game will likely go back to much the same thing as today. I think the quickhammer took a lot out of the game which is ANOTHER reason why it sucks and we should still policy it
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:42 pm

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In post 751, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I wouldn't be against a BM wagon but I like where I am and I'm wondering why BM is focusing on me and not SB9.
I don't even think I'm against a BM wagon.

Look dude, in my heart of hearts, I don't actually think you're scum. I just find your play, where you seem to be trying to make yourself look as scummy as possible, incredibly frustrating. plus my neighbour thinks you're town based on some meta or something.
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:43 pm

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In post 756, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Explain why town would target a high probability night kill to give fruit too?
High probability is in the eye of the beholder aint it? My read was right so unless you're suggesting I'm scum who gave fruit to my buddy why wouldn't I nk who I gave fruit to? Isn't that the whole point of this?
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:43 pm

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In post 758, Battle Mage wrote:plus my neighbour thinks you're town based on some meta or something.
I will second this you just kind of have to get used to the playstyle
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:44 pm

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In post 759, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 756, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Explain why town would target a high probability night kill to give fruit too?
High probability is in the eye of the beholder aint it? My read was right so unless you're suggesting I'm scum who gave fruit to my buddy why wouldn't I nk who I gave fruit to? Isn't that the whole point of this?
i dont think you, as scum, would give fruit to somebody the same night you NK them. More likely that as scum, you would give fruit to Titus, knowing that would win her favour.
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:45 pm

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I admit I'm not a typical MS Mafia player. I've been told I'm frustrating before. It doesn't make what I say illogical or that I'm scummy.
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:45 pm

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In post 760, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 758, Battle Mage wrote:plus my neighbour thinks you're town based on some meta or something.
I will second this you just kind of have to get used to the playstyle
ok can we just do Hessian then?
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:46 pm

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In post 762, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I admit I'm not a typical MS Mafia player. I've been told I'm frustrating before. It doesn't make what I say illogical or that I'm scummy.
take it from me, lots of what you have said this game has been illogical, and surface-level scummy. but let's just leave it there.
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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:47 pm

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@BM: the scummy day 1, the night kill on his wagon, and the push for a PL when there are better thing to do all add up to a pretty solid case against sb9.

It seems like you’re scumreading hessian because she was V/LA over a major regional holiday? I don’t see a real case here.

I agree with you about NPOM, although I’m not willing to put him in my town reads. It kind of feels like he’s playing a different game than the rest of us.
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:47 pm

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ok im gonna take the plunge again

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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:48 pm

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We'll have to agree to disagree.
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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:49 pm

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In post 765, Rannygazoo wrote:@BM: the scummy day 1, the night kill on his wagon, and the push for a PL when there are better thing to do all add up to a pretty solid case against sb9.

It seems like you’re scumreading hessian because she was V/LA over a major regional holiday? I don’t see a real case here.

I agree with you about NPOM, although I’m not willing to put him in my town reads. It kind of feels like he’s playing a different game than the rest of us.
nah, im scumreading hessian because in her towngame she was super motivated and approached the game like a super sleuth.

I don't see that here, and I don't think the fact she had to catch up a bit is a sufficient excuse.

and her latest post about wishing she had unvoted at -1 was LAMIST territory - again, that just wasn't the vibe I got from her as town. She was much more assertive.
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:51 pm

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Not buying it. I still think there’s a decent probability of scum being in {hessian, wyvern} but we have more obvious scum we can eliminate today.
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:51 pm

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if superbowl, outworld and npom are all town, where the fuck does that leave us? Flavor Leaf and the lurker express? :lol:
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:51 pm

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In post 763, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 760, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 758, Battle Mage wrote:plus my neighbour thinks you're town based on some meta or something.
I will second this you just kind of have to get used to the playstyle
ok can we just do Hessian then?
I'm being stubborn and not moving off my policy unless i reeeeeaally need to. I think I will only do me or quickhammer person today (I can never remember the name) which is why I think you and the other black and white avi should just stay on me, titus will hammer eventually
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:52 pm

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In post 770, Battle Mage wrote:if superbowl, outworld and npom are all town, where the fuck does that leave us? Flavor Leaf and the lurker express? :lol:
Or titus. Titus or you + a lurker is where my mind is right now, but I don't think me pushing either of you is happening anytime soon :)
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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:53 pm

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In post 769, Rannygazoo wrote:Not buying it. I still think there’s a decent probability of scum being in {hessian, wyvern} but we have more obvious scum we can eliminate today.
i am well known for despising letting lurkers survive numerous gamedays without doing anything.

but the sad reality is there's no consensus for anything, despite my best efforts
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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:54 pm

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In post 772, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 770, Battle Mage wrote:if superbowl, outworld and npom are all town, where the fuck does that leave us? Flavor Leaf and the lurker express? :lol:
Or titus. Titus or you + a lurker is where my mind is right now, but I don't think me pushing either of you is happening anytime soon :)
i feel like this is exactly how it would go if me and Titus were scum together.
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