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[petapan]

then try harder. the burden is on you to find me as town and not the other way around. i will not explain further.

[Prism]

I'm not going to cry if I don't read you correctly Day 1 when I have much more important things to tackle.

I'm not blaming you for not having me hardtown either. I was originally shocked you didn't vote me after I unvoted bork, and figured scum you stays way the hell away from my wagon. Thinking about it you've got more freedom than that and it's not so cut/dry.

[petapan]

i mean that was a joke, it's a silly proposition obviously. but i'm definitely not approaching the day like i would as scum and i could do a big self-serving rant about it but thats not the important thing in this game right now

i don't get why you think i'd vote you for the unvote?

[Prism]

Ton of scum incentive, looks like trash, pretty natural imo but like I said after thinking more on it there are many reasons you wouldn't just hop on.

[Prism]

With you peta, it's really tough to figure out what your scum approach would be largely because of two things: 1) Exactly how your recent mood/demotivation interacts with the things you know you

should

do B) the specific team

A lot of my flip to skeptical came because I imagined that scum you knows you have to be more involved and convincing with reads, but might be lacking in the will and confidence to carry those through. This is why the lukewarm/very safe late entry worried me.

[fferyllt]

I'll hold off inducting prism if you hold off on this one for me for a bit.

How's this going?

Our last two games are the only games I've played in years though? Watching you and Cabd interact is far more telling than anything I could say or ask. That's how I read you in smoke. So what's the problem here, exactly?

I asked you a different question about this at the time, but Is this

really

how you read me in smoke-filled? I didn't have that impression at all. It felt like you were using my interactions to develop a read on Cabd.

I'm apparently the WORST at noticing when people are sorting me. :/

I keep reading posts I want to ask questions of and then finding I asked the questions and they were answered.

This has not been a good week.

heh!

Apropos of nothing, I've been thinking about what I'd expect from town-Pooky in this gamestate. Not sure my expectations are good, but they are kiiiinda being met.

Quoting this for you, Pooky <3

i like mod pizza and syryana for town

If Glitch was here, he'd say that my town reads mean they're probably scum

Did you trust these reads?

why would I reaction-test someone I know to be red.

are you trolling me Vaxkiller?

Are you actively pushing this read?

this is one of the sets of interactions that feel like a disconnected thread of the game. Maybe everything is a disconnected thread.

Also I prefer she/they pronouns thanks

I usually try really hard to just use they, sometimes I slip up. Regardless its my fault, and I'm sorry.

Also (to anyone) if my persona is a little to much please let me know, as the real me is nothing like how I play this game. I'm a little boisterous because I feel like my voice sometimes get lost in the veterans and better players than myself. Deep down I know I'm not that great at this game, but I just want my opinion/thoughts to be heard.


Ok back to it

I don't think you're getting lost here. Nothing's really gelling at this point. Maybe it gets better in a few pages.

No dude, not trolling.

But seriously, like is DGB know for shit posting at the start of a game as being scum?

I'm not questioning your ability, its just that theres not alot of content there.

if I needed content to find bad guys I wouldn't be very good at this game.

loled

yay i have caught up

VOTE: elements ama

Didn't like this vote.

ele isn't that town

Elaborate?

Fiery my north star, I shall not post more than any1 else this game I promised myself despite my overwhelming enthusiasm,

some1 very smart told me if I spam too much she has trouble finding bad guys.

At one point, I had more posts than anyone else. Maybe at the point of this post.

Sadly, my propensity will probably kick in again and I will be the supreme shitposter of this game.

Pookie your messing with my head.

it's just something for me to laugh at when the game is over in case that's what actually happened here.

very low chance it actually is true.

that's why they're called paranoid thoughts.

Yea, problem is I always start listening to those thoughts... I start trusting them as "gut" and then before I know it, its "fact".

Im going to pretend we didn't have this conversation.

I'm liking some of the vaxposts I'm seeing in this section of the thread. less bombast more vulnerability?

why would I reaction-test someone I know to be red.

are you trolling me Vaxkiller?

No dude, not trolling.

But seriously, like is DGB know for shit posting at the start of a game as being scum?

I'm not questioning your ability, its just that theres not alot of content there.

Yes.

I'm dead. gnight.

[petapan]

This is why the lukewarm/very safe late entry worried me.

that is valid and ties back to a post i made very early, bc i'd likely be frozen in this game as scum but i'm actually trying to work through the disconnect and get back into the game


although there's a chunk of pages i still haven't really commented on that i need to get through

[Prism]

LePeta James, supposed to be the Chosen One but looking like the FROZEN one.

Guess I should finally actually sleep now.

Concur on Vax Ffery, not 100% town but a decent lean. I did kind of tell them flat out that the abrasive attitude was backfiring. Either way their posts shot way up when they started being more open.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Okay peta, I ain't afraid of you, you're now town, congratulations. This did not happen with your role PM but with my decree.

We've come a long way from those innocent times

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Quoting this for you, Pooky <3

You know me too well <3

[Prism]

Morning Pooky

I don't want to say you owe me, but I was willing to get into the weeds and evaluate your slapfight with catboi in Undertale multiple times. It'd be nice if you could do the same.

Tracking my futile attempts at clarity with bork is probably a waste of time, but tracking my progression+vote on bork in the 200s is very straightforward.

Okay peta, I ain't afraid of you, you're now town, congratulations. This did not happen with your role PM but with my decree.

We've come a long way from those innocent times

This was legitimate, I liked the fact that he was present and joking around to begin with, but the real focus was just to keep him around and hopefully get him in a comfortable rhythm.

[Vaxkiller]

Slowly I turn

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: pooky

[Prism]

I have a lot I want to comment on but my house is 8C and I do not have a heater. Typing kind of sucks. Help.

[Vaxkiller]

U ok?

[fferyllt]

Quoting this for you, Pooky <3

You know me too well <3

No I don't. Not yet anyway!

Since you asked about your model I wanted to show you where it's raised its nascent head

[Prism]

I wasn't really bothered by Syr early and concurred that people weren't giving them enough credit for sorting. You can joke around and still give content. Liking me more than FGO made a lot of sense given how diametrically opposed my entrance was from FGO.

This was the only thing I disliked:

Our last two games are the only games I've played in years though?

Watching you and Cabd interact is far more telling than anything I could say or ask.

That's how I read you in smoke. So what's the problem here, exactly?

I feel a great disturbance in my nap. As if syr is leaning too hard into the shit posting realm to dodge Ffery and I, and it's scary.

Ffery I think we might have to end him for mercy.

Ffery and I are busy. Shoo.

Saying stay out of Syr/ffery's interactions is a bit different than sorting via ffery-Cabd interactions, but it's weird to not want to see more Cabd-ffery interactions with yourself added as a bonus.

Seeing it followed by this is kinda bizarre:

My vote is less about ffery being town and more about Cabd being scum. Back when ffery and I were sorting each other on page 10 or so he hopped in a couple times to egg ffery into scumreading me, or at least prevent us from townreading each other. Now, he's done it again, except with bork and ffery. Me too a bit, but the primary interaction was between ffery and bork. I should have known after all that pantomime sighing about never drawing a red PM

This one seems a lot more plausible than the first I quoted. I get that you're saying Cabd is trying to run interference on two towns finding each other by jumping in with something like this vote.

I'm just confused as to what ffery/Cabd interactions you're actually looking forward to reading since the attempts Cabd has made to engage have been met with hostility.

[fferyllt]

the attempts Cabd has made to engage have been met with hostility

Is this about me?

[Prism]

W/r/t Pooky I think they're pretty null for me. Vote on me is plausible either way, maybe as town they feels a bit more hesitant but I'm not even going to try to call it.

Everything I'm seeing up to page like 32 is pretty par for the course with what I saw from Undertale. Friendly, little game commentary or analysis, and preemptively talking about when Pooky/someone else flips etc. The one thing to really note is actually trying to dig into+frame the skitter/Mod Pizza argument, but I think a scum Pooky trying to get a townread has a ton of incentive to try. I know Mod Pizza clarified his stance further+took issue with Pooky's characterization but mine at that point lined up pretty closely (I think just minus the Menayeet section)

They're hardnull to me. I'm really looking to just kick that can down the road for later. They're capable of much better analysis and it will come with time if he's town. I am confident in my ability to read them later down the line and am content to let Pooky be themselves for now.

[Prism]

Is this about me?

No, it's referring to Syr reacting with hostility to Cabd's perceived insertions into ffery-Syr and ffery-bork interactions.

Wanting to read you via your interactions with Cabd makes this hostility weird to me, more the first than the second.

[Elements]

Up to page 26

DrippingGoofball - town, not willing to vote
benhalkum - null, willing to vote
fferyllt - townlean, willing to vote
Cabd - scum, willing to vote
Syryana - townlean, willing to vote
skitter30 - town, willing to vote
Prism - town, not willing to vote
PookyTheMagicalBear - scumlean, willing to vote
borkjerfkin - town, not willing to vote
petapan - null, not wiling to vote
Mod Pizza - town, willing to vote
Vaxkiller - scum, happy to vote

[fferyllt]

DGB do you feel like Pooky's push on you is something he's likely to do as town?

[Cabd]

ok y did u make a bad vote

It was a pressure vote. Voted had moved in that direction so I added mine.
I wasn't very helpful and didn't tell me anything

A pressure vote... based upon... a single snap emotional vote from syr?

"That's the way votes were moving" was literally a single vote before yours. IDGI. I am quite confused now.

[Prism]

Town
=====
Elements
Mod Pizza
DGB
Vaxkiller
benhalkum
petapan
Syryana
Pooky
fferyllt
Cabd
borkjerfkin
skitter30
=====
Scum

Briefly commenting/updating on a few others I haven't really touched on:

-I liked Mod Pizza out of the whole skitter interaction. There's a world where he thinks engineering a 1v1 is the way to get a townread but I never really got that impression, especially when he made it clear with his unvote that it didn't mean a townread. Hard to tell w/o knowing Mena but I'm fine slotting it as town for now.

-DGB I mostly just liked for 587 but all of the 500s are solid imo. Her interactions with me are incredibly annoying but not wrong and not scummy.

-peta is going to hate being lower than benhalkum. Peta, your posts w/r/t DGB and liking Elements' 161 were good. I'm a bit skeptical of how safe your questioning is of ben but you're not wrong to press here. He's higher than you because of how different the tone is from the game skitter linked. IDK fella you're not really scumtelling but there's nothing you've done here that you wouldn't do as scum either.

-ffery/Pooky/Syr/Cabd zone I have no fucking clue. ffery's only +town read to me really is their Rube Goldberg on Pooky. I am very puzzled by how their scum model based off 2-3 deadthread posts about how scum needed to be more proactive points to me town but whatever. I don't like Cabd avoiding weighing in on me/bork entirely, I can see it as town but given that he's significantly more familiar than I am with bork it's strange that he's dodging it entirely.

[Elements]

Up to page 36

DrippingGoofball - town, not willing to vote
benhalkum - scum, happy to vote
fferyllt - townlean, willing to vote
Cabd - could go either way, willing to vote
Syryana - town, not willing to vote
skitter30 - town, not willing to vote
Prism - town, not willing to vote
PookyTheMagicalBear - scumlean, willing to vote
borkjerfkin - town, not willing to vote
petapan - scumlean, willing to vote
Mod Pizza - town, willing to vote
Vaxkiller - scum, happy to vote