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Post Post #1825 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:32 pm

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maybe i just don’t get the defenses of samantha but like i feel like i’m staring straight into a void of evil whenever i see her posts
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Post Post #1826 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:32 pm

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did i call you obvtown a lot this game

can we evaluate me after the part where I flaked as like a replacement since I sorta don't really remember what I did pre-taylor leaving
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Post Post #1827 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:33 pm

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In post 1825, Ydrasse wrote:maybe i just don’t get the defenses of samantha but like i feel like i’m staring straight into a void of evil whenever i see her posts
uh i want specific posts when you are able to quote things.
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Post Post #1828 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:35 pm

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the parts where i called you obvtown is based off my secret meta tell but i found an instance where it's inaccurate in one of your past scumgames and i need to account for scumrange expansionnnnnnnnnn
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Post Post #1829 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:35 pm

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i think that in that position you’re going to push for survival regardless if it is scum right? like, your partner might come out of it looking better if nothing else, and from memory im like almost positive the samantha votes were first but i can check again

samantha’s pushes these games fall on low-quantity posts and then like. bef. she spelled it out why she does it recently + yeah i can get behind that theory because i’ve literally been saying that i think that scum might not have had good control of the game state before
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Post Post #1830 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:37 pm

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In post 1829, Ydrasse wrote:i think that in that position you’re going to push for survival regardless if it is scum right? like, your partner might come out of it looking better if nothing else, and from memory im like almost positive the samantha votes were first but i can check again

samantha’s pushes these games fall on low-quantity posts and then like. bef. she spelled it out why she does it recently + yeah i can get behind that theory because i’ve literally been saying that i think that scum might not have had good control of the game state before
this is a sorta countertheory to everything I think has happened

i can follow where you coming from though
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Post Post #1831 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:39 pm

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Post Post #1832 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:41 pm

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1403 is probably my most succinct explanation regarding my take on the gamestate. also i don’t think that weird is a very descriptive/specific word but it’s a good descriptor for a lot of my reactions to things

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Post Post #1833 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:45 pm

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#1813, more on this now? You're making a lot of assumptions about what scum will and won't do without giving a compelling argument for why X is behaving like a scum lord.
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Post Post #1834 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:50 pm

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In post 1833, Bell wrote:#1813, more on this now? You're making a lot of assumptions about what scum will and won't do without giving a compelling argument for why X is behaving like a scum lord.
this post is kinda scummy tho lol
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Post Post #1835 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:50 pm

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Why do you think scum did not have good control of the game state early? I don't disagree with the take that Vax was acting scummy enough that bussing is more of a 'when' than an if.
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Post Post #1836 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:51 pm

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In post 1834, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:
In post 1833, Bell wrote:#1813, more on this now? You're making a lot of assumptions about what scum will and won't do without giving a compelling argument for why X is behaving like a scum lord.
this post is kinda scummy tho lol
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Post Post #1837 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:53 pm

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Did shelly really just leave me here at 12:52 Am.
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Post Post #1838 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:00 pm

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In post 1836, Bell wrote:
In post 1834, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:
In post 1833, Bell wrote:#1813, more on this now? You're making a lot of assumptions about what scum will and won't do without giving a compelling argument for why X is behaving like a scum lord.
this post is kinda scummy tho lol
Why?
cause even if shoshin's scum that was a pretty townie post and a lot of her analysis was actually pretty good, and complaining about the lack of a more specific argument against Sam when the concerns with Sam were pretty reasonable is quite scummy
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Post Post #1839 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:02 pm

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Read their post again and ask yourself if you can tell which came first, the read or the result.
Also, no? Not really. Now seems like a good time to read them in depth and not just be content with big post hurr must be town.
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Post Post #1840 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:08 pm

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She really did just leave me here at 1:06AM pacific standard time.
We do need to wagon up on somebody and get a claim going.

Still good with Bef, disappointed on Sam's response would have preferred...Something tangible rather than just an explanation of themselves. But bed time etc. Would like reads list tmrw, Sam.

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Post Post #1841 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:08 pm

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I mean the thing is, here's the situation
offwagon living players are Ydra, Shoshin, Ari, and GX

so if scum were totally disorganized and didn't bus, fmpov, those are the slots you'd look for. I'm not sure vax was so DOA that all of his buddies bussed, but honestly with the angle-shoot argument it's possible. I'd still be maybe a little surprised, I'd think kinda 1 off 1 on right now at a guess.

That does mean clearing off wagon has an appeal. Ydra has had occasionally pretty townie content although I disagree with the argument off meta she's town. Ari is... pretty underwhelming. As a claimed VT he's a fine compromise given he's gone back to not playing as soon as the pressure dissipated

Shoshin comes and goes for me, I actually think her wallpost on analysis on the Vax wagon was her towniest content yet although I still have lingering issues with her entry into the game

GX I think is probably just town through occam's razor, although there's room for error there

on wagon, there's 7 votes.

wagon: Gamma Emerald, Bell, Happy Birthday Boonskiies, TheGoldenParadox, Endlesshelley, BrightEyedFish, Ircher, Samantha97

gamma -- trying to remember if he'd bus like that. maybe? think hes town tho
bell -- don't like your posts rn, I thought your engage with me earlier this dayphase was ~slightly townie tho
HBB -- hard to sort since he dropped off, meta leans town but not overwhelmingly so
TGP -- I kinda thought the hard emphasis on the angleshoot was kinda maybe more town? but he was late enough on the wagon it's not for sure. but tbh he's low content but I don't feel like I've hated any of the content he has dropped?
shelley -- I actually don't like a lot of her post-noraa posts, but I also didn't like her pre-noraa posts, but I still kinda think she's town so... oh well
BEF -- seems like a a likely bus tbh
Sam -- I'm okay with this flipping scum too tbh

if it's a 4-man team I'd probably say 2 on, 1 off, with at least one of the scum being toward the tail end of the vax wagon trying to get in before it was too late to get any cred and maybe panicing because too much scum was off wagon
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Post Post #1842 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:11 pm

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In post 1839, Bell wrote:Read their post again and ask yourself if you can tell which came first, the read or the result.
Also, no? Not really. Now seems like a good time to read them in depth and not just be content with big post hurr must be town.
I didn't say hurr must be town

she said that of the vote movement while vax was going down, sam's content can reasonably have a scum agenda

now she did ignore me making a couple stupid posts defending vax but I think that's because she's still bracketing me off, but if you do just ignore my slot I kinda agree with her that sam could plausibly look like scum avoiding the counter-wagon that happened to also be on scum
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Post Post #1843 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:20 pm

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Parting words,
I'm not sorry you don't like my posts, I'm not satisfied with townie posts without at least some level of interaction. From my perspective I can't tell if she's working backwards or not. Which I guess wasn't clear, but that's why I'm pushing them for more.

I'm allergic to wagon spec that uses 1 on, 1 off type reasoning. But visceral reaction to a post with content on each player on it.

Your shelly read is wut. tho taylor was really townie and their posts don't go away or are separated. She's engaged with Ydrasse and I liked the interaction imo as it seemed sorty rather than "here's a read, now get off my lawn"(scum shell)
I dunno about Gamma bus.
Fair on HBB.
TGP is roughly a blank page, yes.
BEF: it sure does. imo.
Less likely on Sam imo, but I'm not gunna stand in the way.
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Post Post #1844 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:23 pm

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I think her argument about why she was town off the mech of the claim was too convoluted to come from scum basically, if I was just going off the content of her posts I'd probably say she was scum
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Post Post #1845 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:24 pm

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that was about shelly if it wasn't obvious
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Post Post #1846 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:25 pm

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@1842: Please don't make me actually point out where her assumptions are and how it's not immediately clear she's not working backwards at 1:22AM PST in TYOOL 2020.
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Post Post #1847 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:28 pm

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I mean she was casing to refute the idea that Sam was unlikely to be scum based on being a counter-wagon to Vax, so yes it was written from the POV that Sam was likely to be scum... I mean that's how cases work? Some people don't like cases but idk, I feel like we're not on the same wavelength atm
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Post Post #1848 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:29 pm

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In post 1845, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:that was about shelly if it wasn't obvious
I don't disagree. But I like her most recent content.
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Post Post #1849 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:30 pm

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In post 1847, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:I mean she was casing to refute the idea that Sam was unlikely to be scum based on being a counter-wagon to Vax, so yes it was written from the POV that Sam was likely to be scum... I mean that's how cases work? Some people don't like cases but idk, I feel like we're not on the same wavelength atm
No and it makes sense for that to be the case given it's 1:29 PST and all hope is lost SOS.
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