Mini Normal 2180 | Mafia PT

[petapan]

if you double down on non-responsive it will make you look bad. remember, i'm on your team, so just stay calm. just respond and try to explain yourself as best as you can. keep talking, dig deep. try to think of how you'd read stuff as town.

really, to me winning this is secondary to trying show you ways you can improve, but to do so, you're going to need to face some challenges.

[midwaybear]

Thanks. I know doubling down is going to look bad, but it would probably be what I would do as town if I didn't really have reasons. Of course, I probably would have some reasons to TR you if I was town in the first place.
I'm looking through your iso right now, and I might make some comments about your scumread on me.

[petapan]

I know doubling down is going to look bad, but it would probably be what I would do as town if I didn't really have reasons.

lol, you wouldn't think "I don't really have a good reason for thinking this, maybe i should reconsider?"

[midwaybear]

Yeah, I would think "I don't have a good reason", but then I wouldn't try to find quotes to support the TR in the first place and just say "oops" or something. But like... I probably wouldn't get in a situation like that as town

[petapan]

hell, you know what?

just say you looked back and realized you don't have a good reason to townread me


i don't know if this will work. there is a chance it could backfire. but people might give you points for "honesty"

[midwaybear]

I'm going to try to keep a light townread on you. I think it's believable for town me to townread you here even if it makes me sad that it would be wrong.

[Iconeum]

this is obviously a game full of mech fuckery, and for him to be scum here there'd have to be some galaxy brain mech wizard scumbuddy who's figured out enough about the setup to tell ico what and how to soft/crumb and then what to claim later *and* have it not collide with whatever other roles claim by that point (and i don't think i see anyone on that list anywayyyy)

also lmao at this post

hey i have a reputation ok

[Iconeum]

it's fine

kinda

[Iconeum]

the safe route would be alienate him tonight and rolestop n3 preventing any possibility of a result.

i was considering this as a strong option, but i'm not sure we wanna have ABR power through this game after a couple of his suspects flip green

[Iconeum]

any mechanically-minded player could see a hole in this plan so big you could fly a 747 through it, and i'd sure as hell be pointing it out if i was town, but i'm not, so lol

[petapan]

this is obviously a game full of mech fuckery, and for him to be scum here there'd have to be some galaxy brain mech wizard scumbuddy who's figured out enough about the setup to tell ico what and how to soft/crumb and then what to claim later *and* have it not collide with whatever other roles claim by that point (and i don't think i see anyone on that list anywayyyy)

also lmao at this post

hey i have a reputation ok

less about you and more just, lol we know the fn

although it occurred to me that the fn visit might have also roleblocked you (not out of the question given these roles) and that's why there's no hood

[petapan]

noraa actually ragequit the game? ffs. i don't want a replacement coming in and screwing everything up

[Iconeum]

true true

but i feel that if i hammer at this point

i think we kinda need to kill datisi actually

[petapan]

true true

but i feel that if i hammer at this point

i think we kinda need to kill datisi actually

i think that's the right kill yes

[Iconeum]

although it occurred to me that the fn visit might have also roleblocked you (not out of the question given these roles) and that's why there's no hood

that's possible, but it doesn't hurt my drop about probably 3 more pr's (an interfering role because my shot didn't work, my hood shot, the FN)

[Iconeum]

we can probably win this without having to kill VP at one point, if I can successfully pocket them.

ABR is like a blind projectile, can't really predict where they gonna end up for reads on D3.
A flip now on SirC would set up the noraa slot for miselim on d3 i think, with DV and ABR also potentially miselims.

I think datisi would be the kill yeah. They also one of the more mechanically minded players, so would be good getting them out.

[Iconeum]

alternatively, a Noraa flip and sequential kill on Datisi would set up an awesome day 3 for us because ABR and SirC are probably gonna cloud up the game even further. SirC, DV, ABR are all potential misflips at that point.

Assuming we kill datisi as well, which is the right call I think.

[Iconeum]

imo both options are fine

[Iconeum]

The Road To Parity #1 (TRTP1)

Datisi

(potential ascetic)
Gamma Emerald
VP Baltar (potential fn)

SirCakez

(claimed investigative)
DeasVail
Noraa (claimed vt)
Albert B. Rampage (claimed monstrosity investigative)
innocentvillager

ico
mdw
peta

this brings us to D3 where we might run up Noraa fast. DV is a potential misflip. Town might turn on ABR.
Next, noraa would get yeeted ideally. We can kill someone like GE or VP pending reads and stuff.

Gamma Emerald

VP Baltar (potential fn)
DeasVail

Noraa (claimed vt)

Albert B. Rampage (claimed monstrosity investigative)
innocentvillager

ico
mdw
peta

bringing us to

VP Baltar (potential fn)
DeasVail
Albert B. Rampage (claimed monstrosity investigative)
innocentvillager

ico
mdw
peta

this lylo for example. A FN that is gonna be confirmed. An investigate (ABR) that is probably confirmed at that point.

Ok this isn't ideal. I'll work on this later, maybe. I think after datisi we will need to kill in either ABR or the fn claim.

[Iconeum]

like

random thought about the night kill

i'm gonna cry if datisi is bulletproof ascetic lol

[petapan]

like

random thought about the night kill

i'm gonna cry if datisi is bulletproof ascetic lol

entirely possible, too

[Iconeum]

do you think i can slip in a hammer at this point, or are we better off waiting and see what happens?

[Iconeum]

i'm sorry for asking that out loud, was more to myself then an actual question

[Iconeum]

Midway probably does the killing this night btw

[Iconeum]

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midway kills datisi

Ico alienates ABR