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Post Post #1850 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:35 pm

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gonna circle back to that in a bit ^
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Post Post #1851 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:35 pm

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I'm saying that I used Bulge's history of accuracy reading me as a defense method when the option of voting me was brought up given he called me 100% town. So I can see town doing it.

I think you have Vax rated too low, he screams low confidence newbtown.

What did you think of the earlier comments about ben being more effortful as scum compared to low effort town?

Regarding prism, they've had a few moments where they've said similar things that I've thought. I disagree with the wall placement of most of the co-hort from prism, but the individual stances were lining up well. I also view prism/bork as TvT, with Prism not only actively trying to disengage it but also trying to see Bork's PoV. Bork isn't reciprocating. I'm townreading bork for separate reasons.
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Post Post #1852 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:36 pm

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Maybe not newbtown, I just associated the word when I thought low confidence
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Post Post #1853 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:36 pm

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I'm down to yeet either of Syr/peta until they give me reason not to, especially the former.
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Post Post #1854 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:43 pm

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Notsci re: cohort I thought you made a good point earlier about ffery w/ timing the paranoia

My limitation here is a solid 80% of ffery/Candy content is the weird dance that I get zero out of, I've never seen either as scum. Ffery I wanted more from but even when she gave more I was kinda eh. Cabd is doing fine even though one of bork/Peta made a good point about him waiting in the wings. I'm much more inclined to view playstyle switch as NAI-if he wants to go deep as scum it's pretty much essential.
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Post Post #1855 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:44 pm

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Let's get her back in this game and then we can see where we stand.
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Post Post #1856 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:45 pm

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She's early posting was fine but then he disappeared, place a bad vote on me and, to the best of my recollection, has yet to do anything or explain his vote besides that he didn't like my readslist since then.

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Post Post #1857 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:45 pm

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Syr, not ffery. Phone autocorrected to She in 1856
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Post Post #1858 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:45 pm

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In post 1851, notscience wrote:What did you think of the earlier comments about ben being more effortful as scum compared to low effort town?

Regarding prism, they've had a few moments where they've said similar things that I've thought. I disagree with the wall placement of most of the co-hort from prism, but the individual stances were lining up well. I also view prism/bork as TvT, with Prism not only actively trying to disengage it but also trying to see Bork's PoV. Bork isn't reciprocating. I'm townreading bork for separate reasons.
I saw that but just because he was effortful scum in one game doesn't mean he can't be effortless scum in this one, particularly, as dgb said, since we don't know what the partner dynamic was like in that game. I also disagree with Cabd's assessment of that one post (I can find it later if I can be bothered) in that I don't agree that the fatalism looks particularly town, along with the fact I don't think anyone with a join date of 2007 genuinely believes their content will be looked at or taken seriously later, especially in a state where they haven't really pushed that much for whatever their reads were (I don't remember and don't care).

I've got it stuck in my head about prism that they don't really believe half the stuff they say. Like when skitter pointed me to that whack ass trajectory they had on bork it really resonated with me and that plus the disengagement just reads to me as "I can't win this fight" more so than "I'm town and this isn't productive". Bork's not really trying to de-escalate but weirdly I'm assigning townpoints to him for it because a) I don't think scum him pushes that 1v1 and b) I also think bork's dogged persistence is town indicative for him because he sees something that doesn't make sense to him and will pursue it until he either gets a satisfactory answer or yeets the offender in question. I don't have a lot of town experience with bork recently but the behavior rings some old dusty ass bells in my head.
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Post Post #1859 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:47 pm

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LMAO GOD I WISH I WERE NOT ON MY PHONE RIGHT NOW
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Post Post #1860 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:48 pm

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Can you point me to that post skitter made if you get a minute?

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Post Post #1861 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:48 pm

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In what world is bork the dogged one? Have you read the last 15 pages?
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Post Post #1862 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:48 pm

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In post 1851, notscience wrote:I think you have Vax rated too low, he screams low confidence newbtown.
Re: Vax I think there are some things in his ISO that don't add up with this, there was even a post by him somewhere that he said this was one of his more confident games, and he's played in enough games he definitely doesn't qualify as newb-anything IMO. I also recently watched Death Scroll and pretty quickly townread him there, so he's lower in my estimations than yours. I'm not scumreading him per se but he's not playing the same game he was in Death Scroll.
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Post Post #1863 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:49 pm

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I'm so scared of losing this 1v1 against bork that I want to gladiate with myself already at E-2, this is galaxy brain
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Post Post #1864 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:50 pm

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In post 1861, Prism wrote:In what world is bork the dogged one? Have you read the last 15 pages?
No offense meant, but if they were your posts, no. I got pretty tired of the back and forth.

Also, bork IS the dogged one, because the fight had died down and he brought it back up later.
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Post Post #1865 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:50 pm

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I'd rather not elim either of you and want to get more data for the masses on Syry, we can figure this out later Prism.
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Post Post #1866 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:52 pm

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I was literally voting and pushing bork that entire time lmao iirc

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Post Post #1867 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:52 pm

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In post 1029, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1027, Syryana wrote:
In post 1024, skitter30 wrote:Syryana can i interest you in this hip new prism wagon?
I mean maybe? I was townreading prism as I liked their entrance but with all this back and forth with bork my eyes have just glazed over and stopped reading it. What's the skinny?
Their progression on bork is kinda mystifying - look at how they go from to . Dont like their reaction to bork's wallpost at the top of that page. Dont like how they characterized my interaction with pizza in , and how they ignored me pointing that out
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Post Post #1868 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:56 pm

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Literally bork tried to disengage, I kept pushing him because disengaging at the point he thinks he's found scum makes no fucking sense, and then he comes back with the wall. At this point I wonder if he'd lean into the 1v1 as scum like that over hoping I just take interest somewhere else eventually

What are you smoking and where can I get some?
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Post Post #1869 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:01 pm

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I don't hate that chain of posts from Prism? Have you never had a read go from scummy to "Ugh I thought this was scum but its misguided town?"
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Post Post #1870 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:01 pm

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These two have low scum equity for anyone lurking in the wings right now.
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Post Post #1871 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:03 pm

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notscience wrote:I don't hate that chain of posts from Prism? Have you never had a read go from scummy to "Ugh I thought this was scum but its misguided town?"
Not recently, and I still disagree that it was a natural thought process to have midfight.
notscience wrote:These two have low scum equity for anyone lurking in the wings right now.
Sorry, what does this mean?
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Post Post #1872 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:05 pm

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I've had that backtrack before. I'll keep what you've said in mind, though.

You and Prism aren't buddies. I don't think scum-Prism keeps trying to push their way into our interaction.
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Post Post #1873 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:07 pm

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I'd almost say 1 of you is scum 1 isn't, frankly.
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Post Post #1874 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:07 pm

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I'll take that as an invitation to shoo for now which is probably best anyway, at least until I get to a computer or actually reread Skitter/ffery etc

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