Open 801: Trust Fall (Game Over)

[Gloria Cleary]

i didnt explain this before because i was asleep obviously

I recommend gloria-necessary tbh, keeping akarin-fidget for tmr

Why?

Why are you trying to get rid of me? @Akarin, do you think our union can wait until D3? I don’t trust Shelley.

[Akarin]

Sorry guys about being wrong on Hectic but I’m convinced we’re safe as long as no one trusts Shelley.

I was

just

thinking I should trust Shelly because surely it can't be both of them.

[Akarin]

I mean, for the record I don't really have a real read on Shelly, just was stuck in my "one of Shelly/Hectic" logic.

[Akarin]

Of course Gloria, I'll wait for you as long as you need. Driving off into the sunset is better when it's toward the end anyway.

[Akarin]

So the problem is, now we can only leave 1 town unpaired.

[Gloria Cleary]

So I don't really see what the slip is, but shelly's early read on Hectic doesn't read as particularly genuine soooo yeah. Can't really see why town!Shelly singles Hectic out like that at the beginning, so if shelly is town, gonna need some assistance seeing that.

I don’t think she is. I think I read that post as a tmi on Hectic.

I don’t see why scum!Pooky discourages me from trusting Hectic. I did have some extremely slight paranoia he wasn’t joking enough and Shelley made this weird push on him early in the game but later he’s no longer in her PoE.

And I’m not thrilled that she’s trying to get rid of me and Sneasel. I think she’s hoping she maybe can paranoia Fidget and Akarin on Pooky.

The reason Akarin is now a townlock is because RR has Shelley high up in his reads and she needs to keep him around to leave the game with her.

We should probably have done Akarin’s plan from the getgo because Shelley will have the easiest time manipulating them.

[Gloria Cleary]

Sorry guys about being wrong on Hectic but I’m convinced we’re safe as long as no one trusts Shelley.

I was

just

thinking I should trust Shelly because surely it can't be both of them.

No, Shelley is scum, I just misread her Hectic read.

[Gloria Cleary]

So the problem is, now we can only leave 1 town unpaired.

Pooky won’t ever trust Shelley, so that’s what I think he’s been trying to do all game, be the last town, so we will win, if we do that.

I just don’t want anyone at the end who will trust her. I won’t but RR might. He has had terrible reads, so I trust him the least not to lose us the game.

[Fidget]

Pooky kinda dissuaded us from trusting everyone, I wouldn't put much stock into that. He's +town from before though for sure.

Has Akarin been particularly paranoid of Pooky? To the point where it makes sense to have her survive slightly longer than you?

I doubt scum!shelly was thinking that far there, you might be confirm biased. Also, even if scum!shelly wants to paranoia Pooky, she'll have to bring another townie down too. And Akarin was the one advocating for RR/Jake to leave. Kinda counterintuitive to that plan. I think scum!shelly was more or less just saying things to say things there.

[Akarin]

I trust Fidget

[Gloria Cleary]

Pooky kinda dissuaded us from trusting everyone, I wouldn't put much stock into that. He's +town from before though for sure.

Has Akarin been particularly paranoid of Pooky? To the point where it makes sense to have her survive slightly longer than you?

I doubt scum!shelly was thinking that far there, you might be confirm biased. Also, even if scum!shelly wants to paranoia Pooky, she'll have to bring another townie down too. And Akarin was the one advocating for RR/Jake to leave. Kinda counterintuitive to that plan. I think scum!shelly was more or less just saying things to say things there.

Because I now think they’re both town and had they escaped, we’d be in a lot better position than we are now. RR will very likely trust Shelley over Pooky and then we will lose. I don’t care who the last unpaired town is as long as they don’t pair with her which is why I think Pooky is ideal.

[Akarin]

Okay so what's the case on Shelly. Because I admit I can't read her, but do we really think the interactions with Hectic are all theater?

[Gloria Cleary]

I trust Fidget

How about Sneasel?

I think Fidget shares my Shelley paranoia the most, so I’d prefer she sticks around.

[Gloria Cleary]

me: pooky scum aims to mislaunch me
pooky: there is no launching
me: FINE you have scumread me in almost all your scumgames

Alright are you willing to be unpaired along with Pooky?

[Jake The Wolfie]

So the problem is, now we can only leave 1 town unpaired.

I'll take this responsibility upon myself

[Fidget]

I suppose I'm holding off before putting all of my chips on it being shelly. Her interactions with Hectic don't come off very good to me at all though. I am a tad surprised she would.. opt for that strategy, though.

[Gloria Cleary]

btw the first line was alluding to gloria townreading hectic for hectics cute avatar

You specifically said that I always tr him. How could you possibly have any clue about that unless Hectic actually told you? The three of us have never once played together.

[Akarin]

Untrust: Fidget

Looking forward to Sneasel's reaction

[Akarin]

So as it stands we have... 4 out of 2 people that we're never pairing off?

[Akarin]

I think the post about Hectic was saying that the way to read Hectic is that everyone just always townreads Hectic. I didn't take it as being specifically about you, Gloria.

[Gloria Cleary]

btw the first line was alluding to gloria townreading hectic for hectics cute avatar

You specifically said that I always tr him. How could you possibly have any clue about that unless Hectic actually told you? The three of us have never once played together.

And that’s also because he’s been town in every single game I’ve ever played with him. I think you tmi’d Hectic as your buddy when you said that I ALWAYS tr him. He would actually know that but I don’t see how you possibly could.

[Akarin]

Like reading Hectic/Shelly in ISO, I guess I'm just not seeing what you two are seeing?

Thoughts after the flip Pooky?

[Gloria Cleary]

The avatar thing was obviously a joke. I didn’t expect him to flip scum.

[Fidget]

If we understand the game correctly, we have to pick out 2 town in {shelly, Pooky, Jake, Rainbow} in order to win. Hm...

@Akarin it's shelly's strange fixation on Hectic early game that seems odd to me. Don't really see why she singled him out like she did. Like part of her reasoning for pushing Hectic was his

reaction

to her pushing him. What. If she's town, I just don't know what she saw to make her feel the need to confidently call Hectic scum, and then drop it later.

Gotta review sometime though.

[shellyc]

btw the first line was alluding to gloria townreading hectic for hectics cute avatar

You specifically said that I always tr him. How could you possibly have any clue about that unless Hectic actually told you? The three of us have never once played together.

no?

it alluded to in general hectic is charming and cute and I was joking about how hectic often got TR'd this being the most recent occasion?