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Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1350 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:33 pm

don't confuse flavored charisma with being manipulative, that's not a button I can turn off.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1351 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:35 pm

hol up

Rannygazoo · Post Post #1352 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:36 pm

@Alchemist stop lurking and tell us your solve.

MathBlade · Post Post #1353 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:36 pm

In post 1346, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Mathblade - I will HAPPILY eliminate you here. Hold up, what are you talking about?

Does anyone in this game think I would not be 100% on board and helping push it further if a Mathblade wagon was happening?

Like, I'm holding back how hard I wanna push the mason thing right now because that's just not necessary. We are creating better discussion by where we are now on someone I think is likely to be scum as well, and isn't tinfoil.

The problem is it won’t. Town you knows this.

There is a guilty on the table. Yes, I am sure you probably would be on board and push it. Ignoring the guilty for a later day just ends up pushing things down the road here. If there wasn’t a guilty to sort, you’d be correct here and we would be at each other’s throats more than likely. However it’s not the right thing.

Pedit Outworld that’s impossible Ranny is my mason buddy

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1354 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:36 pm

In post 1344, MathBlade wrote:The more you talk the more I sort it.

This is literally the point I said I was making.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1355 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:37 pm

In post 1353, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1346, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Mathblade - I will HAPPILY eliminate you here. Hold up, what are you talking about?

Does anyone in this game think I would not be 100% on board and helping push it further if a Mathblade wagon was happening?

Like, I'm holding back how hard I wanna push the mason thing right now because that's just not necessary. We are creating better discussion by where we are now on someone I think is likely to be scum as well, and isn't tinfoil.
The problem is it won’t. Town you knows this.

There is a guilty on the table. Yes, I am sure you probably would be on board and push it. Ignoring the guilty for a later day just ends up pushing things down the road here. If there wasn’t a guilty to sort, you’d be correct here and we would be at each other’s throats more than likely. However it’s not the right thing.

Pedit Outworld that’s impossible Ranny is my mason buddy

Why would TownMe know that?

I don't think I've ever been in a game with you online where you were scum (i could be wrong)

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1356 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:37 pm

There is not a guilty on the table? what?

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1357 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:39 pm

Oh gosh, has this whole past page been completely misconstrued?

NPOM claimed Outer is Not Vanilla Town. That's not a guilty. That aint even a soft guilty.

Ranny's pushed and acted like Outer had already claimed Vanilla Town, and he did not. Check his ISO.

They're pushing a fake guilty and acting like it's a real guilty.

AFTER I called out NPOM for getting ready to change his claim.

I literally caught NPOM.

OutWorldER · Post Post #1358 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:39 pm

In post 1353, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1346, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Mathblade - I will HAPPILY eliminate you here. Hold up, what are you talking about?

Does anyone in this game think I would not be 100% on board and helping push it further if a Mathblade wagon was happening?

Like, I'm holding back how hard I wanna push the mason thing right now because that's just not necessary. We are creating better discussion by where we are now on someone I think is likely to be scum as well, and isn't tinfoil.
The problem is it won’t. Town you knows this.

There is a guilty on the table. Yes, I am sure you probably would be on board and push it. Ignoring the guilty for a later day just ends up pushing things down the road here. If there wasn’t a guilty to sort, you’d be correct here and we would be at each other’s throats more than likely. However it’s not the right thing.

Pedit Outworld that’s impossible Ranny is my mason buddy

I had forgotten Ranny claimed the other Mason.

Alright. I'm still confused why he said I claimed VT when I never did but okay.

There's some contention over that claim I'm aware but I think the best thing for me to solve the game right now is to elim NPOM and then figure out you two off of it.

VOTE: NoPowerOverMe

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1359 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:40 pm

Not liking leaf playing dumb

Rannygazoo · Post Post #1360 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:41 pm

In post 1358, OutWorldER wrote:Alright. I'm still confused why he said I claimed VT when I never did but okay.

Got you confused with BM. He claimed vt when he claimed neighborized. That’s what I was thinking of.

MathBlade · Post Post #1361 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:42 pm

In post 1356, Flavor Leaf wrote:There is not a guilty on the table? what?

NPOM says outer is scum.

Outer not claiming here makes them look like scum here.

NPOM says it’s a 1v2.

Ignoring that to push you or you to push me is silly. At minimum we net 1 scum possibly two. I am pretty sure you’re scum or as Titus says a scum beard here.

Pedit Outer I thought FL said you were VT I probably confused him

Pedit2: There’s fishiness here.

There’s mainly the simple theory which says outer + FL but there’s a moon logic theory I wanna discuss with Titus.

Yes FL NPOM says Outer is not VT.

Well actually two moon theories. One of which you me and Titus are all town.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1362 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:43 pm

In post 1359, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Not liking leaf playing dumb

I am not playing dumb anywhere. There is not a guilty. You claimed he's Not Vanilla. How is that a guilty?

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1363 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:44 pm

I'm not gonna get into a dick waving contest with leaf. Leaf and Ower are partners

OutWorldER · Post Post #1364 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:45 pm

In post 1361, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1356, Flavor Leaf wrote:There is not a guilty on the table? what?
Outer not claiming here makes them look like scum here.

I don't want to claim because we already outed a shitton of info to scum.

I'm very cagey with information as Town. If multiple people start screaming at me to claim I will but right now I don't see the point when the Nea claim is contested and it's not even any sort of guilty to begin with.

MathBlade · Post Post #1365 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:46 pm

In post 1362, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1359, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Not liking leaf playing dumb
I am not playing dumb anywhere. There is not a guilty. You claimed he's Not Vanilla. How is that a guilty?

Assume NPOM and Outer are town.

Assume Ranny and I are scum incorrectly.

Balance the setup. NPOM would have to be an odd night Neo. What would Outer be? And if this was possible why hasn’t outer claimed?

MathBlade · Post Post #1366 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:47 pm

Even night*

Outer if you townread me claim.

We only have one more elim that can be wrong.

If you’re town and have info it’s more important to out it

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1367 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:47 pm

I am always a scumbeard as town, I play that way on purpose so scum dont night kill me. You know how many games I used to get Night 1 killed. A lot.

Also, Outer and I specifically aren't scum buddies because I'd have had him claim IMMEDIATELY, and y'all know I'd have had entry planned.

Self-meta, doesnt mean anything, sure, but this is just for post game i told you so's.

MathBlade · Post Post #1368 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:48 pm

In post 1363, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I'm not gonna get into a dick waving contest with leaf. Leaf and Ower are partners

Can you please not reference genitalia in games? Thanks!

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1369 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:48 pm

In post 1360, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 1358, OutWorldER wrote:Alright. I'm still confused why he said I claimed VT when I never did but okay.
Got you confused with BM. He claimed vt when he claimed neighborized. That’s what I was thinking of.

NPOM running with it instead of knowing if you were right or wrong is why they’re scum. You don’t just miss a claim from the one player whose claim you should be looking for.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1370 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:49 pm

In post 1364, OutWorldER wrote:
In post 1361, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1356, Flavor Leaf wrote:There is not a guilty on the table? what?
Outer not claiming here makes them look like scum here.
I don't want to claim because we already outed a shitton of info to scum.

I'm very cagey with information as Town. If multiple people start screaming at me to claim I will but right now I don't see the point when the Nea claim is contested and it's not even any sort of guilty to begin with.

Claim. You're obviously something, I think you're blatantly obvious townNewbie, in a good way?

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1371 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:50 pm

Like, I literally called out him setting up a Neapolitan gambit. You even stated Scum Neap balances the game out. TownNeo and Masons do not make sense together. That's just multiple wiggle proof confirmed town.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1372 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:52 pm

In post 1365, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1362, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1359, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Not liking leaf playing dumb
I am not playing dumb anywhere. There is not a guilty. You claimed he's Not Vanilla. How is that a guilty?
Assume NPOM and Outer are town.

Assume Ranny and I are scum incorrectly.

Balance the setup. NPOM would have to be an odd night Neo. What would Outer be? And if this was possible why hasn’t outer claimed?

I feel like the answer should be obvious by now. He's actively not claiming even in this position. He's either an investigative or a protective. He's is a classic just past Newbie game level town player.

MathBlade · Post Post #1373 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:52 pm

Neither do two Alien claims either or someone fucking up a 90% claim. All that was town in my last game.

NPOM also did crumb novice being their hint no one listens D1, meaning their claim did match up with what I noticed so it is possible.

It could be possible they are scum bussing each other.

Just keeping them talking is the best play here.

OutWorldER · Post Post #1374 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:54 pm

Alright. Fine.

Indecisive Bodyguard.

I protected Titus N1 and Flavor N2. I was having trouble trying to find potential PR's that would be more valuable than me so I just protected more experienced players who I TR'd. Maybe it worked out in the end, I don't know.

MathBlade wrote:
In post 1362, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1359, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Not liking leaf playing dumb
I am not playing dumb anywhere. There is not a guilty. You claimed he's Not Vanilla. How is that a guilty?
Assume NPOM and Outer are town.

Assume Ranny and I are scum incorrectly.

Balance the setup. NPOM would have to be an odd night Neo. What would Outer be? And if this was possible why hasn’t outer claimed?

If you and Ranny are scum that means there are no masons.

That leaves X-Shot Neighborizer, X-Shot Roleblocker, Fruit Vendor, my BG and the Even-Night Nea.

Neighborizer is negative utility to the already restricted Nea, and the more PR's there are the weaker it gets. This setup seems fairly balanced to me.