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[NoPowerOverMe]

I could be a scum neo.

I could be a scum rolecop.

The fact is I'm neither, I am town neo and got incredibly lucky that FL claimed the same role that I did. I'm not claiming it's skill or anything, or some great testamant to my playing ability.

If nobody sees the reasonableness in me fakeclaiming VT so that i don't get shot before I can use my ability then go ahead and elim me. I'm not going to beg on my hands and knees.

[Flavor Leaf]

You’re continuing to share me and Ranny when NPOM or Outer are the elim.

You’re literally so focused on me you stop talking NPOM

You’re out of control dude. If you’re town you’re so focused on moon logic it’s kinda sad. I am training a newer player in Ranny and I already am a horrible town block leader. It’s not my skill set. I am doing what I can how I can do we win.

I just think you’re scum though. It makes the most sense

I've cased NPOM more than anyone in this game has cased anyone.

I am always focused on moon logic, and I have been one of the strongest town players on site this year. I've lost 2 town games this year.

You are the ones pushing me as scum. You are wrong, and your refusal to accept that is why I have every single right to see you as scum gambiting.

The fact that you didnt push me as scum until after I pushed you proves exactly that.

Yesterday, you were trying to get me to see Superbowl and Titus as scum.

You are actively misconstruing, and you see me as the biggest threat to you winning this game, so you have to discredit me.

You "scum reading me in mason pt before it came out in game thread" means absolutely nothing.

[Flavor Leaf]

I could be a scum neo.

I could be a scum rolecop.

The fact is I'm neither, I am town neo and got incredibly lucky that FL claimed the same role that I did. I'm not claiming it's skill or anything, or some great testamant to my playing ability.

If nobody sees the reasonableness in me fakeclaiming VT so that i don't get shot before I can use my ability then go ahead and elim me. I'm not going to beg on my hands and knees.

I did that on purpose, dude. It wasn't luck. It was all skill by me.

[Flavor Leaf]

like, even if you end up being town, it was still all skill.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Why does every flavor leaf game have to end up being all about Flavor Leaf?

[NoPowerOverMe]

And I don't appreciate the appeal to experience. It doesn't make me less town.

[NoPowerOverMe]

You can take shots at my credibility all you want, either because I don't have the site clout or because I fake claimed, but you are just flat out wrong here.

[no elim]

Did you just pop 20 pages over the night?!

[Battle Mage]

VOTE: OutWorldER

I'm VLA for weekend

[Flavor Leaf]

Battle Mage, I literally caught NPOM scum here...ugh

[NoPowerOverMe]

you're literally lying, as I said at the beginning of the day. You can't just rescind a claim when it becomes inconvenient or proof of your guilt.

[TheGoldenParadox]

VOTE: OutWorldER

I'm VLA for weekend

--Noted.

[TheGoldenParadox]

Vote Count 3.6

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to eliminate.

OutWorldER

(3): NoPowerOverMe, MathBlade, Battle Mage

NoPowerOverMe

(3): Flavor Leaf, Alchemist21, OutWorldER

no elim

(1): Rannygazoo

Not Voting

(2): Titus, no elim

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-12-13 20:25:07).

Mod notes:

I am using Thesp's automated votecounter - please notify me if there are any errors.
Battle Mage is V/LA for the weekend.

[no elim]

Could anybody post a readlist to help me penetrate into the game, please?

[Titus]

There's at least one scum in NPOM and FL most likely as both are claiming a gambit that busted the other.
Mathblade and Ranny are claimed masons.
OutWorlder is a clamed bodyguard.
Titus and Alchemist claim headaches.

I think that FL and Mathblade are both town, or if one is scum its FL and he's pulling a double gambit with NPOM.
I don't like any of the three slots though that are outside NPOM/FL/The Masons, which puts me in a bit of a quandry because not everyone can be scum.

World's shittiest readslist but at least it'll help get people into the game.

[no elim]

And claim.
I need a chart of claims.

[no elim]

Titus and Alchemist claim headaches.

[no elim]

And claim.
I need a chart of claims.

Bad timing.

I would also love to have VT claims.

[Titus]

Titus and Alchemist claim headaches.

Headache is not a literal role. SMH.

[Titus]

NPOM claims even night neopolitian after allegedly claiming VT. His result was Outworlder is not a VT.
Outworlder claims bg.
Flavor claims VT.
Math and Ranny are mason claims.

No one else has claimed.

[no elim]

Like sorry, if anyone thinks this is ever scum me, you’re scum or surface level.

I’m a dick, sure, but I’m not scum.

I guess I a surface level scum then.

[MathBlade]

There's at least one scum in NPOM and FL most likely as both are claiming a gambit that busted the other.
Mathblade and Ranny are claimed masons.
OutWorlder is a clamed bodyguard.
Titus and Alchemist claim headaches.

I think that FL and Mathblade are both town, or if one is scum its FL and he's pulling a double gambit with NPOM.
I don't like any of the three slots though that are outside NPOM/FL/The Masons, which puts me in a bit of a quandry because not everyone can be scum.

World's shittiest readslist but at least it'll help get people into the game.

I think both are is a possibility, but both are would mean the game would be exactly FL/NM/Outer. Possible but I don’t think it’s probable.

[MathBlade]

Ideally if it weren’t for the claim I would want to elim FL but it’s bad form to elim outside a mechanical claim like that.

[MathBlade]

I think Titus is town. But I am rarely listened to day 1.

I agree. The strongest impression I get out of these starting pages is that Titus is Town.

I think Ranny v Superbowl might be S v T or T v S.

Which do you think is more likely scum?

i think there's something reassuring in the way NPOM joined the Hessian wagon without question, but was more hesitant on Wiyvern. Presumably those suspicious of NPOM can get behind the Hessian wagon on that basis.

I am driving consensus Titus.

makes me think Wiveryn over Hessian as a partner for NPOM.

nah i'd say the opposite. scum don't tend to need much talking into distancing their teammates. although im still leaning NPOM town now anyway I think.

I strongly disagree with that take on distancing. Some people are bus-it-into-the-ground players but most aren’t.

Self vote followed by a quickhammer. What the hell even is this game anymore?

This is my case on why Alch. And why I think it’s Alch+FL+Outer

1) You’ve been buddied hard imho. The instant townread of you. It’s too preplanned. Later he asks you do you think it’s SVT or TVS on two slots I now know are mechanically confirmed town. This helps preserve a bias in your head that you’re right. I do this as scum a lot.

2) The reaction in 591 is an indirect support of what Flavor Leaf is pushing yet the direct interactions with Flavor Leaf are few and far between. They’ve had a hard on for NPOM since day one (FL especially so) so FL+NPOM would require this to have been planned from Day one. FL+NPOM+Alch I guess is possible just outer seems more likely with the shifty BG claim. Alch is usually more “solvey” as town and Ranny pushing Alch and then Alch disappearing sold his read to me even further. Alch should at least have a little bit and doesn’t.

3) Post 299 is out of place here. Alch is reacting as if he knows the slot will flip town. Scum vote themselves often if they want to die. This reaction was waaay too strong. The quick hammer after the self vote did happen yes but then where is Alch pushing that? He abandoned the Outerworld read and is now on NPOM.

This I think ties them together a lot. That’s why my primary world is FL Outer Alch

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

I remeber him being the strongeest proponent of ben's elimination.

What’s your take on Overworld’s hammer?

my take is he leveraged the fact I had done something like that in my last game with him, as a crutch to absolve himself of responsibility.

That doesn't imply he's necessarily scum, but it means it's not something I townread either.

If he’s done it before I would just think it’s impulsiveness on his part.

Specifically here he abandons the quick hammer scummy theory then goes Ohhhh my bad yet tomorrow never pushes outer. This is a line of incongruency that doesn’t make sense.