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[fferyllt]

Pondering how much weight this should bear in reading you.

i think that is the most words i have written about the game of mafia and the most words i have written in a game of mafia

I think the most I've written in a mafia game might be my moon cancer/zmuffin paranoia wall addressed to day 4 or whenever.

[Prism]

Peta, I think the simplest way to handle this if you're town is just...find me a scum to vote instead.

Your approach is to collect townreads, but I really oppose one of your inclusions at a minimum. Your interpretation of my/bork's discussion after 239 is fine, and if you think it's town then

shrug, okay

. You haven't convinced me he's town or discussed why I actually scumread him, and you don't have to.

I scumread both of you, if I'm wrong that's on me, but so far I see no reason to trust your PoE or follow you at all.

[Cabd]

FWIW, Syr and I rolling scum together would be one helluva bigger party and not...

Not... whatever you call Syr's current play.

[notscience]

My bigger concern is us writing off the cohort after one of us flips. I’ll explain more later. I’m not certain on it by any means just have to consider all venues.

[petapan]

Peta, I think the simplest way to handle this if you're town is just...find me a scum to vote instead.

Your approach is to collect townreads, but I really oppose one of your inclusions at a minimum. Your interpretation of my/bork's discussion after 239 is fine, and if you think it's town then

shrug, okay

. You haven't convinced me he's town or discussed why I actually scumread him, and you don't have to.

I scumread both of you, if I'm wrong that's on me, but so far I see no reason to trust your PoE or follow you at all.

i have already articulated why i think the approach of just pointing at someone and trying to call them scum isn't likely to work in this game - it leads to laughably bad cases like the ones you are pushing. the reason neither i or anyone else talks to you about why you "actually scumread him" is because it is barely comprehensible, and it is also terrible. he is scum for not understand your hyperbolic, overblown response to his expression of disagreement. the fact is, not only can he not fucking understand what you're trying to say against him, neither can literally any of the other players in this game. i guess that makes us all scum.

i've outed reads, i've outed reasoning when i can, you don't seem to care. instead you hit me with the idea i'm scum because of the phrase "it cant be helped". ok dude.

[Prism]

I don't really feel that's worth an answer.

[petapan]

good because i don't think you're worth conversing with anymore, and right now i'm thinking unpleasant things it would be a mistake to say

[Vaxkiller]

@peta

204 I asked a question to him about elements reasoning for voting me over others was valid. He said he didnt care as he said my "OMGUS" was scummy. He doesnt care, but also town reads elements.

308 He says im shading elements. I mean... im scum reading them explicitly... Proceeded to say im performative and defensive.


Game is moving on now and he decides to start shopping around my beginning posts to ppl asking if these posts are towny. I say shopping around, because it looked like fishing to me, he wanted to see if anyone would bite, he didnt even call them scummy, he just asked if they were towny.
516

530
Says my posts are "NAI but in a way that they can be easily perceived as scummy for being light/empty" Didn't explain the shift change there. Just feels like he posted it to "fish" or shade.
Say they voted me because of my response to the reads list.

Let back up a few
525
I find it weird that both people in this slot have brought up the white knight scenario.

542

Somehow Im still scum and skitter is also scum for white knighting me????

In retrospect he admits we are probably unaligned in post 514

Writing this out was good for me. I feel like I never got to respond to modpizza because the 2 times I was going to It didnt feel like an appropriate time. I just kinda held all that in my head and maybe mixed it with some conf bias. This isnt nearly as scummy as I thought it was. Its not great, but I guess could be explained away. I dunno. Let me simmer on it.

[borkjerfkin]

all of this is to say that i, and at least a few other people, i believe, don't really buy into your 1v1 and in my personal view insisting on it getting resolved is detrimental to the town wincon. i can try to go over your arguments and hopefully reach an understanding there but i want you to be willing to like...broaden your horizon, i guess?

I know this isn't to me, but I think it applies to me just as much:

I'm going to do my best to focus elsewhere for the remaining of the day. My attempts at using it even as an invitation for people to get a handle off me due to my tone have failed

[Prism]

Who did it fail to reach? I can only think of ffery.

[fferyllt]

fail

What's this in reference to?

It feels like I'm playing this game from inside a cocoon.

[borkjerfkin]

I agree with peta ^
I think that forcing a 1v1 here is unnecessary and will ultimately harm the gamestate more than it will be helped.

I'm also not convinced that prism/bork is tvs and even, like, needs to be solved

Also peta is ++town (i think)

If Prism is town I'm probably more willing to believe this is from town...there's a lot of potential scum motivation to put this argument on hold to a point later in the game (possibly when this argument is in the distant past, much less a XYLO where neither of us has flipped) if prism is scum here

[fferyllt]

quote fail

[borkjerfkin]

Who did it fail to reach? I can only think of ffery.

ffery, cabd, syr, none of whom really engaged me on anything i ever put

[Prism]

I was more inclined to view Cabd/Syr's reactions to it as positive since they both have you as a top TR, and the latter is voting me, but I guess level of engagement is another measure.

[borkjerfkin]

It's easy to just call me town here or hop on a wagon w/ me but that doesn't necessarily give me a lot of clarity as to their motivations
contrast to skitter who i think has done that

[fferyllt]

Who did it fail to reach? I can only think of ffery.

ffery, cabd, syr, none of whom really engaged me on anything i ever put

I've kind of boarded up a wall regarding you this game, which isn't fair to you as either alignment.

[fferyllt]

^^ That's an invitation.

[Prism]

That doesn't really match your original post, where the invitation was for them to get a handle on you rather than the opposite, but it's pedantic and we can move on.

[petapan]

@peta

[snipped]

fwiw, 516 isn't "shopping around" as much as much as him interrogating skitter about her townread on you in the context of his argument with her. i think you've misunderstood what he was saying at a few points but i'm not sure how important getting into the details of it are. overall i don't find that stuff he posted scummy but i

get

why you'd be hung up on it and this helps me clarify your thinking, thanks

[fferyllt]

It's a two-way street.

[borkjerfkin]

it's been very difficult this game getting at exactly what you want to converse upon.

I believe you owe me a continuation of 1655

[Prism]

It's a two-way street.

If that's to me, I agree completely and that's why I think it's fine to move on. The significance of the verbal mismatch is subjective until resolved by flip.

[fferyllt]

I just want to link to their iso, bork. Have you really looked at their not-about-you posts?

[borkjerfkin]

The more I read the less viable you and Syr are together, which is nice. At least one of you will be town. I'm currently just past your bold ffery vote (I stole what DGB said because I thought the same thing. Also thinking DGB's vote on Ben to make him do things followed by saying she doesnt see a world where peta is town raised some eyebrows.

I have softened my stance on petapan, prompting me to watch videos to teach myself how to twerk.

I'm probably at DGB town as of this post