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[Gamma Emerald]

Changing who is what changes nothing about how nonsense your claim is. And just because you changed what a negative result would look like doesn’t change the fact your role NEEDS modifiers you haven’t claimed to make it work. This isn’t Booneytoonz where you can just throw out some crazy variant that has one action happen based on another and expect that to pass the bar.

[DrippingGoofball]

So yeah DGB is caught scum, I am the actual combined Neighborizer/Neapolitan and DGB cannot possibly take back that post 3190 where they directly said Vax targeted IV

So Umlaut didn't vote the recruiter, but the fellow recruit?

Uh uh

[DrippingGoofball]

I am worried about all the players on the sidelines... Starbuck... ABR...

[Gamma Emerald]

So yeah DGB is caught scum, I am the actual combined Neighborizer/Neapolitan and DGB cannot possibly take back that post 3190 where they directly said Vax targeted IV

So Umlaut didn't vote the recruiter, but the fellow recruit?

Uh uh

Yeah this just doesn’t check out at all if the “recruits” all end up in the same PT like the implication seems to be.

[Vaxkiller]

DGB
I dont think your following.. or your just gaslighting some weirdness.

[Vaxkiller]

So yeah DGB is caught scum, I am the actual combined Neighborizer/Neapolitan and DGB cannot possibly take back that post 3190 where they directly said Vax targeted IV

So Umlaut didn't vote the recruiter, but the fellow recruit?

Uh uh

I cant find this

Cite.

[DrippingGoofball]

Both Vax and unwnd hinted at having targeted IV.

I was trying to tell both that there was an explanation for the NO RESULT I knew they would have gotten.

But it's just lie upon lie upon lie.

[DrippingGoofball]

So yeah DGB is caught scum, I am the actual combined Neighborizer/Neapolitan and DGB cannot possibly take back that post 3190 where they directly said Vax targeted IV

So Umlaut didn't vote the recruiter, but the fellow recruit?

Uh uh

I cant find this

Cite.

I already quoted it and made the vote show up in large font.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Non Imh

I think going after lurkers actually makes a lot of sense right now. Assuming Nero

was

killed by the Mafia, if the whole team were present and active someone would have been hard against that kill. So unless one scum just strongarmed it over their buddies' objections (and that's pretty rare) I'd find it pretty likely that the team consists of multiple highly disengaged lurkers and maybe one seriously active player.

This was D3, aka after umlaut would have been recruited
The only possible explanation is that unwnd just failed to explain to his “recruits” that being recruited = bring conftown, which is a horrible oversight imo

[DrippingGoofball]

Or
There is ne neighborhood.

[Vaxkiller]

AHHA

[Vaxkiller]

Got it!

[Vaxkiller]

Predecessor posts

[Gamma Emerald]

This whole “Eureka!” act is fake as shit

[Vaxkiller]

Neighborhood was largely unused, until recently.

Date of 2728 Predates Unwnds predecessor claim by 2 days. Umlaut was put into a neighborhood with less than page of posts. Umlauts vote as you quoted is before the Uwnds claim.

[Vaxkiller]

You know what i fucking hate? Arguing with scum. I had a relay positive outlook on this game, but were going to lose it because scum fucks are active and town is literally AFk.

[Vaxkiller]

I pming mod now.

[DrippingGoofball]

But you said you had discussions with Umlaut about who is or isn't scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

You know what i fucking hate? Arguing with scum. I had a relay positive outlook on this game, but were going to lose it because scum fucks are active and town is literally AFk.

You had zero positive outlook.

All you had is NO RESULT for IV.

In other words you had nothing.

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: Non Imh

I think going after lurkers actually makes a lot of sense right now. Assuming Nero

was

killed by the Mafia, if the whole team were present and active someone would have been hard against that kill. So unless one scum just strongarmed it over their buddies' objections (and that's pretty rare) I'd find it pretty likely that the team consists of multiple highly disengaged lurkers and maybe one seriously active player.

i think

this day should last like, as long as it needs to

there are just, way too many low-content slots that are hard to sort

even if it feels like we're just stalling the game, im willing to wait a week for the prod-replace-catchup process to happen for a few slots and just slow down this game a lot, we have 11+ RL days

I agree with this, no one end the day until we reach the point where everyone has either started playing or been replaced (or made it clear they're not going to do either one)

In Which Umlaut Finally Efforts And Tries to Make a Real Case on Someone

So the intersection of the Day 1 and Day 2 elimination wagons was {

Nero Cain

, muh316, Gamma Emerald, Umlaut, Albert B. Rampage}. These were both pretty 'safe' wagons, and if I were scum I would likely be on one or both of them (which in fact I was, but... I'm not scum) just because they stood out as so guilty-looking that I'd be afraid it was more suspicious

not

to vote them. As such I think there's a pretty good chance of finding scum in this pool.

FMPOV this means looking at {muh316, Gamma Emerald, Albert B. Rampage}. Of these I'm most interested in muh, because he's been on my "maybe this guy is scum?" radar from the beginning and I think I've overlooked him in favor of more interesting targets. (Also he doesn't have six zillion posts so I can ISO him without going crazy)

Spoiler: A whole lot of quoted muh posts with commentary

VOTE: Guillotina

Looks like a new player pretending to be experienced

This post just didn't make any sense to me at the time and still doesn't;

even if this is true, why is it a reason to vote someone?

Nero 3:16 says I just eliminated your ass!


VOTE: muh316

VOTE: Nero I thought we were out of RVS

Explicitly OMGUS, which is not terrible in itself but seems to be replacing a somewhat serious vote on Guil.

muh, comments on guillotina? Seems like you were sussing them earlier

I was suspicious of him because his behavior seems very scripted to me. But the claim seems believable enough that there's no reason to further pursue.

I really dislike this turnaround. Guil had already made the claim when muh voted him in the first place, but crucially at that time IV was kind of grilling Guil about it and others were giving the claim some sideeye as well. By the time IV posted 179 it was clear he

wasn't

really suspicious of Guil and no one else really was either, and suddenly muh has bigger fish to fry and "there's no reason to further pursue"? Seems like he thought Guil was an easy push and then redirected when it turned out he had misread the room.

Moreover this scans more as muh narrating his read progression than talking about Guillotina, which was what he was invited to do and should be more interested in doing.

so basically you are admitting to what I am accusing you of-not paying attention to the game.

The way I read a game is I skim over the unread posts and first respond to things related directly to me. Then I try to re-read later on when my brain is ready to process the other things going on.

I'm super dramatic and I got a big ass ego. How is that alignment indicative?

Given it's D1, we need something to get the game going which is why I pushed you a bit on it.

Both more self-explanation.

even when muh is active in the thread i still dont realize muh is posting. maybe the avatar makes the posts invisible (speaking of gamma i miss the old one).
VOTE: muh

What amazing contributions have you given to the game?

Tu quoque

[snip]

Pushing for something that is NAI is how you usually get the game going? Or just in this game?

I play with multiple year long breaks so I can't really speak on my meta. But coupled with the role claim and the flavor text, you seemed like a good target to generate conversation.

This is completely dodging the point of whether muh believes Guil's content was NAI or not. Even "yes, it's NAI, that's why I moved on" would at least be addressing the point, but muh seems to not want to be pinned down to that interpretation.

Except nobody's forgot about me and I'm the top wagon at the moment.

why is it exactly that you are still doing nothing in this game?

There's nothing for me to do yet

ABR please. There had been a lot of content up to that point. Saying there's nothing to do is just an excuse both town or scum make because they are lazy.

There's literally nothing notable except my wagon and Guillotinas flavor text. There's the glitch wagon but Glitch hasn't posted since that wagon formed on him.

Also, if there was something notable going on we would have had a lot more than a wagon on me and glitch. The past few pages all seem like fluff to me.

Excuses for not contributing. Town can be uninterested too so this is a weak point but it's not nothing.

not for alignment, read order
am biased in favor of activity tho
guil is town for me, iv too

By that criteria you're most likely to be scum then

This post doesn't seem like much, but I'm looking at it now and it screams scum to me. "By your reasoning, you're scum!" is just the sort of

gotcha

remark that no one actually posts as part of a good faith scumhunting effort but only because they want to make a show of engaging people's arguments.

If you think we’re wrong to push you, why do you think it’s happening?

I don't think it's wrong to push me. Go for it. I just know there's scum on the wagon since my playstyle makes me a great candidate for LHF.

Town think (know!) it's wrong to push them, because they're town.

Lol I thought y'all had killed me without asking for a claim. Glad to be alive.

VOTE: Pretentious

This was the seventh vote onto Pretentious, after his fake-quickhammer of muh. That's... a fairly sound reason for a vote, of course. But it's impossible to get a sense of what muh really thought of Pretentious since he didn't say a single word about him for the rest of the day:

How tf do we have 20 pages in a span of a few hours. Anybody got a tl;dr?

So turns out Guillotina is not the only annoying player in the game. I skimmed a couple of pages, looks like a bunch of shitposting to me.

So turns out Guillotina is not the only annoying player in the game. I skimmed a couple of pages, looks like a bunch of shitposting to me.

LOL the irony in this post

At least I don't try to come off as the God of Mafia.

I have to agree with Guil about the irony.

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VOTE: Guillotina

Not buying the claim.

This is literally muh's entire ISO for Day 2. He didn't buy the claim. Fair enough, the claim was false so not buying it is correct. But he had nothing to say about it until I had already debunked the claim and a wagon had started forming on Guil as a result.

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VOTE: Non lmh
This slot has been avoiding the conversation for a long time and has managed to dodge replacement.

And this is muh's vote today. Others have already pointed out Non lmh is an easy target. I don't think that in itself makes muh scum (I have made something of a habit of saying "maybe the easy target is an easy target because they're just scum!") but it sure doesn't make him town either.

don't know about that muh guy but i have a person pushing someone who is dead null after 109 pages
i will vote for that person
VOTE: muh

So one inactive person defending another inactive person. Nice.

And this is muh's response to being criticized/voted for the easy lurker push. Which is just dismissal and not engagement (and incidentally is a missed opportunity to drag inactive-May into the game by asking if she actually thinks Non's play is acceptable or what?).

Tl;dr: Muh's day 1 play was terrible and scummy, and his day 2 and 3 play have been nonexistent. We should go back to this.

VOTE: muh316

I replaced in on the same day the claim was made int he neighborhood. Oh look who changed their vote.

[DrippingGoofball]

But Umlaut voted for your predecessor.

And where is Starbuck?

Where is TGP?

[innocentvillager]

why isn’t this just TvT lol

[innocentvillager]

don’t see how dgb’s softing on me or whatever is stuff she couldn’t have done as town rolestopper

[Vaxkiller]

Innoo

[TheGoldenParadox]

But Umlaut voted for your predecessor.

And where is Starbuck?

Where is TGP?

hi