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Post Post #2 (isolation #0) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:58 pm

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wow i already died. What was my n0 role ;)
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Post Post #4 (isolation #1) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:54 pm

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Wtf i wanted to be town
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Post Post #5 (isolation #2) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:01 pm

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flavor rolled mafia? how unfair for town especially with the power level mafia actually gets
andres on neighborizer is actually really good bc andres is v strong. he will probably get rolestopped if it was to be done right now
town super stacked tho .. lol
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Post Post #6 (isolation #3) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:02 pm

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ranny as mason might be a bit of a mess tho.

mason pair is a bit weak playerwise unless imh is good

NPOM being neapolitan is good.

hopefully ben utilizes his power well
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Post Post #7 (isolation #4) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:03 pm

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seems hella townsided regardless though. the wifom of so many prs can be broken with good town which town absolutely does have haha
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Post Post #9 (isolation #5) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:44 am

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titus as VT is actually good. i have heard titus is a really good player.


i think town wins this based on how townsided setup is tbf. ive yet to see outworld's scumgame but they're gonna take heat d1 likely.
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Post Post #11 (isolation #6) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:24 pm

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it is townsided.
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Post Post #12 (isolation #7) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:24 pm

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the general skill level of town on this site is fairly low thats why it may not seem townsided.
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Post Post #14 (isolation #8) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:38 pm

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when theres more PRs than scum PRs esp self clearing ones it is a very uphill battle. if scum nightkills a VT even once it can be catastrophic.

my mafia setup philosophy(i designed open setups for chat mafia) is that setups should be leaning towards scumsided whenever possible.

the closed aspect is a thing that does benefit scum but town have:

3ML

2 people who can self clear

a doc in case one of those 2 do self clear d1(yeah rolestopper can stop the doc save but doc will pretty much immediately gain info on that)

2 roles that semi clear themselves

just a bunch of named roles in general.

idk lol.

first ML is always free yes, but the way PRs are i think it can lead to just a solve from mostly just claims
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Post Post #17 (isolation #9) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:50 pm

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if npom is ever flipped it will solve the game i feel
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Post Post #18 (isolation #10) » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:50 am

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lol

Heard Titus was a good player why are they easily distracted by lhf and using nai arguments?
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Post Post #19 (isolation #11) » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:59 am

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god the ego :lol:
shading isn't scummy tbh lol unless it's obvious that its illogical based on gamestate
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Post Post #21 (isolation #12) » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:03 am

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If anything thats a ploy id use to avoid the nightkill.
Idk lol but ya i do as VT purposefully PR tell in believable ways so theres that
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Post Post #22 (isolation #13) » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:04 am

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i mean day is half over i hope this is a trap from titus :lol: the push just seems really weird knowing its town
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Post Post #25 (isolation #14) » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:53 pm

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In post 300, OutWorldER wrote:it's a repeat of Open 799.

which means this is scum flip lets go baby

I got referenced :lol:
(Outworld did subconsciously scumslip with that line tho ;) )
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Post Post #26 (isolation #15) » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:10 pm

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outworld needs to be policied d2. You don't quickhammer in a closed setup with no claim.
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Post Post #27 (isolation #16) » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:18 pm

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Subject: Mini Normal 2179 | Day 1
Titus wrote:Non lmh - Probably scum, would vig as useless if not scum. This is where I would push if I were queen.
benhalkum - hopefully scum
Battle Mage - Lean town
OutWorldER - Lean town, was prob town before the hammer. I can see it coming from town.
hessian - VLA can't read.
wiyvern - Holiday can't read
NoPowerOverMe - Lean town, the fight with Ben could be S v S distancing though.
Rannygazoo - I think I have said enough here. Lean scum.
superbowl9 - I want to say town but everytime I do, my gut cringes.
Titus - Please don't shoot me.
Flavor Leaf - Gambiter. Plays an aloof style. Wait and see.
Alchemist21 - Solid town
Andresvmb - Gtmh town. Holiday lack of posting though.

lmao
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Post Post #28 (isolation #17) » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:18 pm

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FL is shooting this
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Post Post #30 (isolation #18) » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:09 pm

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hi ben.
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Post Post #32 (isolation #19) » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:30 pm

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if they dont get outworld the next day yes
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Post Post #34 (isolation #20) » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:32 pm

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i think FL gets caught here
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Post Post #36 (isolation #21) » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:34 pm

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FL has rolled scum too often recently i think it'll be hard to be in a town mindset
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Post Post #39 (isolation #22) » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:04 pm

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yeah FL told Outworld to hammer u for sure bc u caught him out lol

no one listens to the dead tho so hey
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Post Post #55 (isolation #23) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:00 pm

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Town deserve to lose. Also FL is so obvious once you play with him once how do ppl get fooled by this? He plays an agenda everytime he rolls scum
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Post Post #56 (isolation #24) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:01 pm

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Battle mage going in tho
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Post Post #57 (isolation #25) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:05 pm

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as soon as BM drops the neighbor tea it should be over for FL then as long as titus' head gets unstuck from wherever shes getting her reads from
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Post Post #59 (isolation #26) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:12 pm

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:lol: true true
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Post Post #60 (isolation #27) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:12 pm

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once you're out of the game the responsibility is off your shoulders and if town loses you can feel comfortrable
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Post Post #62 (isolation #28) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:15 am

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In post 816, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Super not a fan of Ben's sudden wagon. Flavy looks sus for starting and then hanging back and watching. Titus looks like she's talking herself into it.
i now stan johnny
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Post Post #63 (isolation #29) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:16 am

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town me would have hard FOSed Titus/FL together alongside outworld
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Post Post #64 (isolation #30) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:16 am

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alchemist would have gone under the radar
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Post Post #65 (isolation #31) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:05 am

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In post 832, JohnnyFarrar wrote:BACK! and caught up. This game seems fun.

Willingness to vote from least to most

Titus
Napalm
SuperBase
Hessian
Outwer
Ranny/non im/alchy <- true neutral
BM
Flavor Leaf

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VOTE: flavor leaf to go with it

My actual solve here is Flav/Outwer/alchy but you could sub BM in for any of them I think

Not trying to do the whole curse of competency thing but I don't expect to come into a game with this much content and have my big boys be the least invested. Flavo I've got a story in my head about, BM just seems wrong.

SuperB got killed for this shit recently as town, not allowing it. I think BM was in that game? Iirc we both got NK'd (I should really check to see if that game ended)

napalm is brasher than titus if scum, what with the constantly attacking higher profile players, and I don't really see that from scum here when the majority seems cool with this superB bullshit.

@Titus gimme a flavor wagon.

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Post Post #66 (isolation #32) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:05 am

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IM ACTUALLY HARD POGGING
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Post Post #69 (isolation #33) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:55 am

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imagine we reach a gamestate where its only PR alive
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Post Post #70 (isolation #34) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:01 am

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can't blame the titus vote from math lol

titus is playing p poorly bc she's pocketed asf
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Post Post #73 (isolation #35) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:13 am

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titus deserves to be MLed here and I would have driven that ML myself as town with no regrets
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Post Post #76 (isolation #36) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:57 am

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ya i can see FL doesnt know how to play around it bc as soon as FL tries to manipulate it, johnny is going to be right on that and know for sure.
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Post Post #77 (isolation #37) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:58 am

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u can see that tipoey sort of play around FL, they are very unwilling to drop the titus pocket too
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Post Post #80 (isolation #38) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:14 am

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BM should have just openly shared a summarization of what u said in the thread full stop.

then again i managed to deepwolf against BM while not trying at all so lol
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Post Post #82 (isolation #39) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:16 pm

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holy fuck town is stupid lmfao
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Post Post #83 (isolation #40) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:16 pm

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johnny is gonna die and no one is gonna bat an eye at it.
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Post Post #84 (isolation #41) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:17 pm

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wow we went back in time its night 1 again poggers
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Post Post #85 (isolation #42) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:17 pm

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wait but its also night 3 so we going into the future too :O
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Post Post #88 (isolation #43) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:20 pm

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limming a claimed fruit vendor is probably the smallest brain play possible.
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Post Post #90 (isolation #44) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:36 pm

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while i think FL is playing a solid game town is tripping all over itself by rushing lims and not thinking critically. outworld should have been policied 100% on d2 and the fact he wasnt even considered as a policy is a shame on the town
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Post Post #103 (isolation #45) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:45 pm

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titus is going to continue to sit in FL's pocket and town will lose
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Post Post #106 (isolation #46) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:55 pm

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alchemist might be c aught too actually
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Post Post #110 (isolation #47) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:48 am

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math outted the solve in main thread too
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Post Post #111 (isolation #48) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:59 am

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wait lol
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Post Post #112 (isolation #49) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:59 am

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outworld is mafia goon.

is npom gonna get limmed after outworld flips
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Post Post #127 (isolation #50) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:20 pm

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hey look thats a winning endgame so
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Post Post #128 (isolation #51) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:20 pm

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In post 121, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 1656, Titus wrote:I think someone town in this game is hard defending scum.
She’s right about this :lol:
yeah look in a mf MIRROR
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Post Post #130 (isolation #52) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:37 pm

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titus really is so far up FL's pocket i think they can be declared legally blind
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Post Post #131 (isolation #53) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:11 pm

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and cue town shitting itself in lylo lmfao
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Post Post #150 (isolation #54) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:00 am

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In post 143, mastina wrote:(I feel obligated to mention: Normally, Titus is a very very good player. Normally, Titus is quite competent. However, Titus should, if she doesn't shape up and in lylo catch the scumteam and work with the town in eliminating it, own up to this being one of her worst games of all time where she royally fucked up. She should have the self-awareness to know that there's no excuses for this level of misplay and that it is, genuinely, a terrible "off" game for her.)
yeah based on hearing about titus' reputation a lot of things came off as ??? from her this game. a lot of chasing LHF and such
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Post Post #179 (isolation #55) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:23 pm

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In post 165, MathBlade wrote:
In post 164, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Titus has to know she messed up last night and fl and er are scum.
She doesn’t reevaluate much. She also thinks I suck at mafia. Odds are she still townreads FL sad to say.
hey maybe she finally sees the light ;)
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Post Post #180 (isolation #56) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:24 pm

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"why did everyone who suspected FL die"

Titus: nothing suspicious about that!
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Post Post #181 (isolation #57) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:26 pm

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oh its over.

lmfao

town if u see this ur embarasing for not policying outworld openly lolhammering an unclaimed person.
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Post Post #183 (isolation #58) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:41 pm

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nah its understandable u wanna get rid of the big fish first.
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